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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 7:36:23 PM

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Also remember that due to the wonders of the California budgeting system all these facilities have lost funding and are now understaffed and overloaded.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 7:42:01 PM

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I know it's not, but when you're panicking and the staff won't acknowledge it, they just ignore it I I told them several time I didn't feel safe I need to talk to someone now they said you have to wait 24 hours but by law when you ask to speak to a representative they have to let you an they wouldn't let me speak to a representative.

Attavan is a well known sedative and will make you sleepy as fuck and it'll make you loose your balance.

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they just said we're not here to help you,, you have to help yourself.

Read what you wrote here. It was not a stay at the Hilton. And just because you went there voluntarily doesn't mean the duration of your stay is voluntary. If they give someone a medication that doesn't make anyone else fall down, and you fall down, can you see how they would think you were faking for attention?

If the doctor says you can have something, and doesn't chart it and doesn't tell the staff, then in effect he didn't say it. So instead of blaming the staff, next time ask your doctor to specifically tell the staff and/or call the staff member into your room so he can say it in front of you.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 7:53:46 PM

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Ativan didn't make me sleepy at all. Didn't really do much of anything to me actually. Didn't even reduce the heart palputations. And they may have believed you more about the falling if you weren't throwing temper tantrums all the time.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 7:57:36 PM

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I don't know much of anything about psychiatric facilities, but it sounds like what they did was pretty standard procedure and probably best for your own safety. I know you feel like they did you some kind of wrong, but might this be a heightened reaction to the panic that you are feeling these days? Could it possibly be a bit of paranoia? I suggest waiting till you calm down a bit and then reevaluating the situation more.

Different drugs have different reactions in patients. I was given a drug a long time ago for migraine and I had that little side affect that like only a few people got. My side arm went numb and it was a drug that was supposed to make people sleepy and all I felt was agitated when I slept. I called the Doc and told him and he told me to stop taking it immediately. It was just a random weird side affect.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 8:55:19 PM

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Okay, you can spend time and energy on this, or you can spend time and energy on the bigger issues you have. I can tell you I've never seen someone fall down on Ativan, sleepy sure, but fall down? No. Would it matter? No. It IS an anti-anxiety drug, and if you were having panic attacks, then wouldn't you expect to receive anti-anxiety drugs? Yet you said they didn't listen when you complained of panic. If you were so sedated that you were falling down, that doesn't exactly jive with a panic attack. Can you see how that is unreasonable for most people?

But does it really matter? In the grand scheme of things, does it matter?

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 9:32:15 PM

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You mean like believe I fell or saw me fall, cause every one saw it and my mom and my bf are a witness, and I wasn't having a fit when I fell I was absolutely happy and estatic , and then I got dizzy and spacy and I felt like I was floating and my legs just went out from under me, The dr even asked why I had almost no reflex responces and why did I look so drugged an,, they got me off the table and my feet went strait out from under me.

If my bf was not holding my arm when I tried to get off the table I would of smashed my face when I tipped forwaed, so there wasn't anything to disbelieve or believe if you'd only just stoped having a fit, because I wasn't even having fits when I fell I was perfectly calm, and sleepy.

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Ativan didn't make me sleepy at all. Didn't really do much of anything to me actually. Didn't even reduce the heart palputations. And they may have believed you more about the falling if you weren't throwing temper tantrums all the time.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 9:43:21 PM

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I was panicking for about an hour until they gave me the med and after that I was not panicking I was quite calm, but now falling down, I would expect to be told the side affects of the meds I am having given to me I was still pretty rational just panicked and scared.

Like I said The falling down started AFTER the panic attacks stopped. I was really sleepy and spacey and I felt wierd and my world began to feel like it was swimming, I was visiting with daddy and my mom and calm as you can please I was standing there talking and POOF my ass was on the ground, I wasn't pushed Daddy didn't do it I didn't throw myself on the ground, the dr even said it was the atavan don't give her any more.

Yes, Cali it does in the grand scheme of things matter, these places have a long track record of mis managing patience nd I know you can't always believe other pych patients testimonies, but not just pych patience but other people that visit and observe and other people have emailed me privately to tell me it sounds fishy that they kind of tried to play it off that I started falling after they gave me the med, and I am going to pursue this with the naimi board and other places, Innapropriate handling of patient care, is quite common if you're considered a nutter, You're very frequently discounted and your concerns belittled, and some situations are down right unsafe and yeah it's no stay in the hilton, and it is a crazy crazy place, but I will not sit by iddly and do nothing when I believe and others believe there's injustices done.

These places are exactly why mentally ill people fear getting help, because you will be repeatedly be traumatised over and over because the place is not very well equipped or helpful when you're scared and just need someone to explain things to you , or when you have a problem like the med they gave you to calm you making you fall down and get hurt.

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Okay, you can spend time and energy on this, or you can spend time and energy on the bigger issues you have. I can tell you I've never seen someone fall down on Ativan, sleepy sure, but fall down? No. Would it matter? No. It IS an anti-anxiety drug, and if you were having panic attacks, then wouldn't you expect to receive anti-anxiety drugs? Yet you said they didn't listen when you complained of panic. If you were so sedated that you were falling down, that doesn't exactly jive with a panic attack. Can you see how that is unreasonable for most people?

But does it really matter? In the grand scheme of things, does it matter?

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 10:09:00 PM

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You could have refused to take it. It was your choice to take it. It's a common medication and it's not the doctor's fault you reacted badly to it. One medication I used to take, Neurontin, made me pass out on a regular basis. It's no big deal. Either learn to deal with the anxiety without meds, or take the meds and deal with the side effects.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 10:11:09 PM

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Why were you so scared? It's a hospital. Take the pill and go hang out with the other looneys and have fun. What did you expect from the stay anyways?

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 11:01:03 PM

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I didn't know what it was, I'm not like some of you guys with long histories in mental health pych wards and who know every single drug out there and what it is.

I needed it to calm down because the place was scarying me, but I ddn't know anything about side affects or reactions, they just promised it'd help.

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You could have refused to take it. It was your choice to take it. It's a common medication and it's not the doctor's fault you reacted badly to it. One medication I used to take, Neurontin, made me pass out on a regular basis. It's no big deal. Either learn to deal with the anxiety without meds, or take the meds and deal with the side effects.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 11:04:21 PM

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I can't handle loud noises and because of past trauma's where the loud noise was a threat to come get you, and was someone big bad and scary here to kick your ass, and also because I don't have a filter and loud noises you can not get away from, like in a pych hospital, trigger my anxiety and ptsd, from back when I was in situations where when there was a lot of commotion and noise it was someone in the group home I was in acting out because they wanted to beat up someone an it was usually me since I am or was meak.

I have very bad ptsd, places like that trip all those ptsd triggers. And maybe looney was just a fun term, but I'm not looney, I have adhd issues and anger management issues and I do not belong locked up in a place with people who see things hear things hallicinate or are truely crazy.

those people in the mental hospital that are there invultuntarily are really dangerous to themself or others because they have some serious shit going on like trying to kill themself or others, or trying to fly because the voices in their head tell them to.

someone with anger managment issues and panic attacks and most specially ptsd don't belong in such a stressfull e nviroment.

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Why were you so scared? It's a hospital. Take the pill and go hang out with the other looneys and have fun. What did you expect from the stay anyways?

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 11:10:33 PM

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Somewhat off-topic but everything I've heard about mental hospitals has been negative. The staff was typically dismissive and in an extreme example, housed a rapist ON STAFF who preyed upon the patients and then threatened them into silence. When one spoke up, she was dismissed due to (if memory serves me) being schizophrenic and had her meds upped.

Pardon my bluntness but... fuck mental hospitals.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 11:12:30 PM

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Arrogance yup they had a guy in the ward who kept trying to get all new women to fuck him an they wouldn't keep him out of the ward with the women. he kept harranging us to have sex with him come on nobody would know it's ok just come jack me off an staff knew what he was doing an still kept him in a ward with women and no locked doors.

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Someone off-topic but everything I've heard about mental hospitals has been negative. The staff was typically dismissive and in an extreme example, housed a rapist who preyed upon the patients and then threatened them into silence. When one spoke up, she was dismissed due to (if memory serves me) being schizophrenic and had her meds upped.

Pardon my bluntness but... fuck mental hospitals.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 11:39:33 PM

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If you make a complaint and present yourself to them the way you present yourself here, not only will they not listen to you, but they probably will never listen to you. Perhaps when you're calmer and your personal situation has improved, you would be in a better position to make a rational complaint.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 11:41:30 PM

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now that I agree with lol.

But we do have a valid complaint if staff has a sexual predator on the ward and knows he's a sexual predator and don't move him despite finding him in womens rooms a ton of times.

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If you make a complaint and present yourself to them the way you present yourself here, not only will they not listen to you, but they probably will never listen to you. Perhaps when you're calmer and your personal situation has improved, you would be in a better position to make a rational complaint.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/7/2009 11:57:29 PM

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Topping,

Just because someone is in a clinic it does not make them a 'real crzay', you have your problems (emotional and mental, which would in the eyes of many people make you a real crazy) and those in clinics have their problems, different ones yes, but that does not make them any more 'real crazies' then you. My son is in a day clinic for children and guess what his only problem is ADHS, but I guess because he is in a clinic he is a real crazy.

Your problem is that you never grew up and cannot take responibility for yourself or your actions. I have been following your posts for a while now and you love to be the centre of attention, as soon as you fade from the limelight you start a new series. Try working in one of those clinics for a few months and see what it does to you. The workers in those clinics have a lasting rate (on average) of maybe three to four years before they break down.

You want to be careful how you word things, regardless of if you are drugged up or not. I said what I just said with the aim to make you realise, WORDS CAN HURT. A person is not a 'real crazy' as you put it, just because they are in a clinic. They are people who like you their problems.

I am sorry for the pain what I said might have done. But you need to learn sometime, that life does not accept excuses. It is going to go on with or without you.

You have a problem, you need to decide to make the changes, no the changes are not easy, no they will not happen over night. But using excuses is opting out of making the changes that you have said yourself that you need to make. I hope you sort things out with your partner and with yourself. Good luck.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 12:01:27 AM

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The facility is certainly accredited. Contact the accrediting agency. Joint Commission is one - the most likely one in the US, but there are others.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 2:24:52 AM

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I do not belong locked up in a place with people who see things hear things hallicinate or are truely crazy.

But sweetie you self admitted, you said that yourself.

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 2:34:32 AM

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OP: this all sounds like that old scarey movie THE SNAKE PIT..or THE PIT
wow...
Back in the day...about 1979 I was in a ward in an old old hospital...no screens on windows,,bumblebees came in a landed on our beds..I was in a room with a woman who said "fuck" over and over for 2 days non stop...an old guy lit up a cig by his oxygen..
I was worse when I got out..and how did I get out..?
I went out that window with the bees..

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RE: How do I find out if there's ever been any complain... - 11/8/2009 4:08:48 AM

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those people in the mental hospital that are there invultuntarily are really dangerous to themself or others because they have some serious shit going on like trying to kill themself or others, or trying to fly because the voices in their head tell them to.

Many are there because they voluntarily admitted themselves.

Irregardless of voluntarily or involuntarily...the staff will not cater to or coddle the patients, and it sounds as if that is what you expected.

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