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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/1/2010 4:16:33 PM   
Elisabella


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ORIGINAL: SinisterSimon

Hello sweet girl.
I for one am a believer in the "Alpha slave"...she is generally the wisest and most well trained, but not always.  She may just be Master's favorite.  While all slaves will be rewarded for their service with Master's cock, only the alpha has earned the priviledge to take his seed into her....be it her hungry mouth or cunt.  The betas may wear my seed wherever I choose to put it and they are required to clean it up with their mouths, as Master's seed is way to precious to be wasted on a towel! 


I bet if you asked the sperms they'd consider being shot off into an eggless mouth a waste of seed.

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/1/2010 5:38:35 PM   
AnimusRex


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ORIGINAL: SinisterSimon

...only the alpha has earned the priviledge to take his seed into her....be it her hungry mouth or cunt.  The betas may wear my seed wherever I choose to put it and they are required to clean it up with their mouths, as Master's seed is way to precious to be wasted on a towel! 


Just noticed this- doesn't this mean you can't use the other girls' holes? Or do you just pull out when you are ready?

Man, that sounds like the real waste here. Send a few my way. I don't mind wasting mine- I can make more.

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/1/2010 10:45:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Man, that sounds like the real waste here. Send a few my way. I don't mind wasting mine- I can make more.


Hmm.... onto a towel or process through the digestive system and eventually passed from the body through the usual process of elimating waste.

Neither seems particularly glamourous when I really think about it. Good thing sperm are replacable!

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/9/2010 8:36:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		He might actually value or favor the first sub because he knows her better. There should be no difference in the way they are treated as a whole.

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/14/2010 6:50:37 PM   
masterlink65


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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/14/2010 8:54:51 PM   
sweetsub1957


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ORIGINAL: Shylahgirl
should the "number one girl" then hold a rank higher then others who come in latter no matter the others age or past experience outside the relationship?

What is your opinion?

Shylah

My opinion is that it should depend upon the specific relationship and the Dominant's rules......but like I said elsewhere in this forum, I haven't been poly yet, I'm still just curious and learning.

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/15/2010 6:39:17 AM   
chamberqueen


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Status: offline 		Shylagirl, it sounds like your Daddy has already given you the answer and that you might not like it.  It is really relationship dependent and it is typically the Dominant that sets the rules.

I read once that being an Alpha is the hardest position within the BDSM world - that the Alpha knows that she will never be enough woman to truly satisfy the man that she so dearly loves and that there will be times when she needs to step aside to let someone else bring him pleasure.  Not only must she be concerned with her Dom's pleasure but also with making sure that there is peace and harmony in the family.  Sometimes that can only be brought about by self sacrifice.  Some see being Alpha as a position of glory.  It is a position of trust and responsibility, and as with any such position has its own rewards.  It does not necessarily mean "the best" though typically the position is given to someone showing maturity in the lifestyle; it certainly doesn't mean "the one who always gets the most attention".  In some relationships - not all - it does mean "most loved".  In almost all it means "most trusted".

Talk with your Daddy about it.  Try your best to understand his decision on the hierarchy (or lack of one).  See what he wants from you in your position.  The position will no doubt evolve with time as he sees what you are best at and uses those strengths.  Don't fall into the trap of doubting his feelings for you.  Be willing to share him for his joy in whatever role he sees fit to use you in and draw your fulfillment, in part, from knowing that you have done your job well. 



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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/15/2010 12:16:33 PM   
LillyoftheVally


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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists
the answer is entirely dependent on the people involved in the relationship. In OUR of Alandra, Kyra and I.... there is not ranking of my girls as you imply. That is not to say that this is the way is should be... It is just the way that works best for our dynamic.


This. I would never work in a ranked relationship, I cant even bear the term 'third' so I don't think I would cope well with being considered secondary.

Different relationships develop differently, in my relationships every member is as significant as the other, if someone starts to tell me that I am less so (as happened in my last relationship) I leave. Thats just me though, some people thrive on being of a different ranking, which is cool, whatever works for people

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/15/2010 10:10:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey lilly, would the name three of seven work for you?

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/16/2010 3:32:44 AM   
WinsomeDefiance


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Status: offline 		I was a collared slave in a houshold that had several slaves and there was a hierarchy.  I was third of five (sorta sounds like a borg designation I know).

In my experience, it didn't work for me.  I didn't care about the number or placement, but it did seem to cause unnecessary feelings of rivalry that I think weren't especially productive.  In the future, I won't seek out or involve myself with that sort of a relationship, but it was a fun and interesting learning experience.

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/16/2010 4:31:22 AM   
LillyoftheVally


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ORIGINAL: FukinTroll

Hey lilly, would the name three of seven work for you?


Dunno if that is a serious comment or not, but nope

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/16/2010 10:17:30 AM   
Divinefemme


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Status: offline 		My general opinion is that different slaves/submissives have different talents. Some are great secretaries or personal
assistants, Others are great house keepers and domestic servants. Some are great cooks and caterers. I prefer different people in different places. Not every first slave is an alpha personality, even though they might be primary. Some times it is more of a reward to be on the bottom and not have any responsibility. If it were a bdsm/kink poly relationship, I would say there are also toys, pets, servents, girls and a variety of other dynamics that people can fit into.

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/17/2010 3:10:45 PM   
nephandi


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I think the parties involved in a relationship and particularly the Master would have to be the ones who decided if there is to be a ranking system and what that ranking system should be and what would make pepole hold different ranks. There is no universal right and wrong here, only individual choice.

I wish you well


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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/18/2010 4:56:59 PM   
PrincessDonna


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Status: offline 		Most subs I deal with are happy to continue to just serve without rank and accept whatever makes the Princess happy although I have had to deal with jealousy in the past with one constantly tattling on the other,so I bound them together for 48 hours and both were rewarded or punished together according to actions.

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 1/31/2010 6:47:45 PM   
MasterGreg43


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Status: offline 		I feel its no real need for an alpha slave or sub, if she has put in time and served her Master for year before other then she will be look up too for help at times or watch to see if they could be as good, but the Top has to control the respect of all and it shall work but without top fully control it can go bad when a newbie comes in and start feeling they are better then others.

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 2/1/2010 10:55:22 AM   
Eleutherios


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Status: offline 		Just my opinion, if you're going to put ranks in the relationship, you might as well end it with everyone involved. In my experience, trying to rank the ones you love is poisonous, and not nearly as conducive to open, honest and cooperative dynamics as simply loving them and letting everyone find their niche in the relationship.


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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 3/22/2010 4:38:00 PM   
trueshadow


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Status: offline 		I've never had a problem with ranking.  I have lots to do without busying myself with worrying about how I rank with my Owner.  It's not always easy, but I don't have problems taking orders from her Alpha, as long as the ranking is clearly spelled out.  I may roll my eyes (and I do) but I will work to make her happy.

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RE: Ranking subs/slaves in a relationship - 3/24/2010 12:12:04 AM   
DomBlade64


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Status: offline 		To me a ranking system weakens the already thin foundation of a poly relationship and it is often what causes one sub to jealously attack another. So this causes destruction from within in my opinion.

(From what I gather from other poly relationships)

-Daddy Blade

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