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RE: perambulations - 12/7/2009 4:16:26 PM

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Hot Damn indeedy!

Hiya Un,

In the mail it is...

Ciao,

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RE: perambulations - 12/9/2009 11:56:32 AM

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Tal Hup,

I know this is kinda late, but I try to avoid typing any faster than I think.

I can understand that people wanna see tits... Hell, *I* wanna see tits. I reckon tits are as important as the roses that my generation, and lots of other generations, were urged to take the time to smell. But... tits ain't the end all be all.

As I see it, the Gorean philosophy is about living life on my terms, free, and in command of my own fate. Living life on "my terms" as a free man, is my goal, and I think that being successful, is a worthy reward on it's own merits. I also think that it is more enduring, I've never heard of a life well lived being described as a softball in a tube sock, or... flaps.

I get cranky when I hear someone say that the Gorean Philosophy is a vehicle to get the tits, or *more* tits.

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RE: perambulations - 12/9/2009 6:08:20 PM

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Well I can not say that the Gorean in me does not enjoy the slaves. I can say how ever with absolute honesty that if all the women in the world said no to slavery I would still walk tall with my head held high as a proud Gorean. But as a Gorean I would still strive to put women in their place, at my feet. Gorean philosophy is the pillar, the key, the corner stone, the Home Stone of being a Gorean and that will never change.

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RE: perambulations - 12/13/2009 9:09:53 AM

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Tal Un,

Well, it's been a good number of weeks since I have posted or even read anything here on CM (ishy has briefed me some), or anywhere else online for that matter. It certainly seems that the vultures have been picking away at the carcasses around here.

Back to your point:

I suspect that you were attempting to illustrate raw and unchallenged irony.

You created a thread to highlight the idea that men, or at least the "Gorean Free" always end up discussing slaves, while that in itself appears to be the primary focus of this thread.

You know as well as I do that those that actually consider things Gorean do ponder on issues beyond whips and chains, but where is the drama or entertainment in that for the masses. Perhaps good discussions will have to be found where they can be by those that are after more than a cheap tawdry affair or lustful adventure. As Ron mentioned he started an excellent thread some time back, hell I thought it might even draw out the likes of Marcus and Zeb, but I was wrong and in fact disappointed.

As for the girlie thread, that was intended to be more than their whiner’s corner or bitch box. But, since its inception there have been “free” that have entered their conversations to join some fun or to supposedly get them on track when they become distracted (myself included). Concurrently there has been perves and other HNG’s or meddlers posting there. I suppose that always seemed an inevitability. Our wenches do tend to attract attention. But much of their trivial chatter such as good morning girls and who had coffee with whom seems well placed over there. Kajira do like to babble, hell all women do. I suspect that is why the grown up females needed a thread of their own as well.

If you want to have fun with your philosophical concepts and impart your views where almost no one will bring up the idea of “slave girls”, do as I am now doing, share your “manly” and social philosophies with the “vanilla” types. We believe we go further in the ways of thinking like man was intend so perhaps we should lead where the wolves do not know they exist. You can talk all day and never have to mention slaves or the books at all and impart the philosophy of Gor and watch the men perk up an ear and the sheep fall away in fear.

Oh and it’s fun to hear them carry on about,” you’re right, you’re right,” then ask; “how can we start living like this though?” Then utter those simple words to them, “one man at a time, one man at a time.”

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RE: perambulations - 12/25/2009 6:21:38 PM

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Tal, Unbuilder.

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If it's all about the slaves... doesn't that put them in charge?

The thought has occured to me, and I did write on a similar subject in the past, under the heading of New Sparta.

In my mind, much of this stems from the book emphasis and the fact that the books display the classic characteristics of a slave mode of thinking (in the Nietzschean sense) by attempting to define something good in terms of its opposition to an imagined evil that scares the author on some level. As things are described in the books, Gor is a world that is tailored to women and obsessed with slaves and slavery. Also, the difference between the "hidden slavery" of the lower echelons, the oppression of the higher echelons, and the institutionalized slavery of excluded women, makes the whole thing something that attains an undue prominence in the books and in thinking that is thoroughly rooted there.

Not sure there's going to be much getting over that until others start looking to define good on its own terms, on its own feet.

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