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Favorite quotes from the books - 12/14/2009 5:24:21 PM   
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Perhaps something light and hopefully interesting.

What are your favorite quotes from the Gor books? and what do they mean to you?

Below are what came immediately to my mind. I will add more as they occur to me.

From Marauders of Gor:

"Be strong and do as you will. The swords of others will set you your limits."

If I am to paraphrase it, this is how I would do it, "If we are to live in cages, let it not be cages we have built around ourselves."

From Beasts of Gor:

“Perhaps you are not in a good mood because you are cold,” suggested Imnak.
“I wager that is it,” I said. “Why are you in a good mood,” I asked, “if you are cold?”
“It is bad enough to be cold,” he said, “without being in a bad mood, too.”

There are often times when we cannot change our circumstances, however, I would like to think that we are able to change how we react to our circumstances. If we will be cold anyways, being in a bad mood only makes things worse.

From Nomads of Gor:

“I am Harold of the Tuchuks,” he said, “I am a skilled tarnsman I have ridden over a thousand tarns, I have spent more time in the tarn saddle than most men on their feet, I was conceived on tarnback, I was born on tarnback, I eat tarns, fear me! I am Harold of the Tuchuks!”
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“How do you ride a tarn?” he asked
“Get into the saddle,” I said.
“Yes!” he said, and climbed up, missing one of the rungs of the rope ladder at the saddle and slipping his leg through it.

It is just plain funny :) I like Harold, I find him to be one of the most entertaining characters.
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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/15/2009 11:24:41 PM   
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From Captive of Gor:

I am now finished with this narrative. Each night I must return to the kitchen, by the nineteenth hour, to be chained. Before that time it is my wont to wander the delta wall of the house of Bosk. I look out upon the marshes, which are in the light of the three moons of Gor, very beautiful.

I remember Rask of Treve.

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I find that to be one of the most moving moments in the books, a hint of the deep but helpless longing of a slave girl for her Master.
The other moment I remember is when Green Ubar died... it was very sad.

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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/15/2009 11:40:56 PM   
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You'll find mine in my signature.

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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/17/2009 11:34:31 AM   
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Thank you for sharing, Master Camerious :)

I do believe that anyone should be able to find at least a couple lines that are personally significant among the many books that have been written. Please share :)

A couple more that occurred to me:

From Tribesmen of Gor:

“I thought you once made the march to Klima,” I said.

“I did,” said T’Zshal.

“March again to Klima,” I told him.

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I personally would prefer not having to march to Klima, but perhaps such an experience is not a bad thing. And when pressed by necessity, perhaps it is good to remember that sometimes, all that is needed is to hang on, and endure.

From Beasts of Gor:

“The same dark laws which have formed the teeth and claws of the Kur have formed the hand and brain of man,” had said Half-Ear.

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I like the idea of relying on teeth and claw, but I guess it is better for humans to think in terms of hand and brain.
I think, some might be reminded that as long as they still have their hands and brain, they are not completely powerless.
Others, perhaps might do well to remember that the hands and brain of a man is his first weapon, and last line of defense.

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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/17/2009 11:35:48 AM   
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S2...this topic has been done many times before. That's probably contributing to the silence.

You can readily find them with the search feature.

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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/17/2009 11:50:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

S2...this topic has been done many times before. That's probably contributing to the silence.

You can readily find them with the search feature.


Thank you for pointing that out, below is what I could find:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1643390/mpage_1/key_quotes/tm.htm#1643526
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1834229/mpage_1/key_quotes/tm.htm#1834229

One of them is not specific to Gor, the other is rather short...

I think it might not be a bad thing to have more quotes from the books more easily found in the forum, regarding all aspects of life. It might serve to show that Gor is more than just Master/slave and the natural order.

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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/17/2009 12:13:13 PM   
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Incidentally, here's a discussion of everyone's favorite quote:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1880916/mpage_1/key_quotes/tm.htm#1882689

Often, though, these threads are indeed short:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_728658/mpage_1/key_quotes/tm.htm#728755

Book quotes permeate the forums. Just how it is.

My books are dog-eared with literally hundreds of poignant passages. I'm sure others' are as well. Retyping them here would take far more than my interest in sharing them would warrant, except when to support a specific point or engage a discussion of a specific portion.

Good luck with this.

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I think it might not be a bad thing to have more quotes from the books more easily found in the forum, regarding all aspects of life. It might serve to show that Gor is more than just Master/slave and the natural order.


Not a bad thing at all. However--

1) you're addressing people who already know not it's not about master/slave (not "more than just M/s") [master/slave is a symptom, not a tenet]

2) Gor is absolutely about the order of nature. All of it. How our society reflects and doesn't reflect this; how another societal structure might do so better.

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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/17/2009 9:05:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
2) Gor is absolutely about the order of nature. All of it. How our society reflects and doesn't reflect this; how another societal structure might do so better.


If I may ask for a clarification regarding that point...

Do you mean to say that all of Gor is about the order of nature, and nothing else?

If so, I fear I have severely misunderstood how Gor is interpreted...

quote:


Book quotes permeate the forums. Just how it is.


Oh well :) maybe I can try to gather them into one place.

I was reminded of this one by a different thread:
From Explorers of Gor:
“Tell him,” said I, “that Bila Huruma, his own Ubar, speaks to commoners. Tell him that a true Mfalme listens to, and speaks with, all men.”

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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/18/2009 8:01:31 AM   
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quote:

If I may ask for a clarification regarding that point...

Do you mean to say that all of Gor is about the order of nature, and nothing else?

If so, I fear I have severely misunderstood


I do. And yes, you've missed what Gor is about.

Just as many other authors and philosophers have done, John Lange takes a long, probing, analytical look at the society and world around him, it's condition, direction, and the history of its thought and development. Critical of much of what he finds, he postulates an environment where our natures would play out differently, with different circumstances rewarding and curtailing different aspects of those natures' manifestations:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_1102994/mpage_1/key_Joyce/tm.htm#1104493

Trevelyan has put this extraordinarily well:
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2873040/mpage_3/key_thesis/tm.htm#2882015
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2604867/mpage_3/key_thesis/tm.htm#2615297
http://www.collarchat.com/m_2654324/mpage_1/key_thesis/tm.htm#2654757

In short, Earth society, particularly North American Western culture, artificially restricts our true natures and place in the order of nature. We can live better when we throw off these artificial constructs and live a life free from false assumptions while nurturing and developing our better nature, our freer and more responsibly thinking selves.

Live well.


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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/18/2009 10:14:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
I do. And yes, you've missed what Gor is about.


I see. Thank you for the clarification.

More quotes, just because I think there is so much more to Gor...

From Priest-Kings of Gor:
“The truth is,” said Sarm, “that the human is a dangerous and predatory species.”
“But those animals,” I said, “are not rational.”
“Is that so important?” asked Sarm.
“I don’t know,” I said. “What if I claimed it was?”
“Then I should reply,” said Sarm, “that nothing below a Priest-King is truly rational.” He looked down at me. “Remember that as you are to the bosk and the sleen so are we to you.”

From Beasts of Gor:
“I know a place,” I said, “where some people would think that men are immortal but animals are not.”
“They do not like animals?” asked Imnak.
“I do not know,” I said. “Perhaps they think they are immortal because they are smart and sleen are not.”
“Some sleen are pretty smart,” said Imnak. He thought for a bit. “If sleen were to talk these things over,” he said, “they would probably say that they were immortal and men were not, because they were better at swimming.”


From Savages of Gor:
"Could it be," asked Samos, "that they have come to sue for peace?"
"No," I said.
"How can you know that?" asked Samos.
"They are too much like men," I said.

From Kur of Gor:
It does not apologize for its strength, its speed, its
formidableness, such things. Nor does it attempt to conceal
them.

From Raiders of Gor:
But most importantly the men of the arsenal regard themselves as just that, the men of the arsenal, and would be unhappy apart from their work. For all their threats of desertion of the arsenal there are few of them who would want to leave it. Building fine and beautiful ships gives them great pleasure.

A society in which each is expected to succeed, and it placed under conditions where most must fail, would be incomprehensible, irrational, to most Goreans. This will sound strange, I suppose, but the workers of the arsenal, as long as they make enough to live reasonably well, are more concerned with their work, as craftsmen, than they are with considerably and indefinitely improving their economic status.

From Tarnsman of Gor:
Marlenus was patient. "Before the sword," he said, "there is no right, no wrong, only fact, a world of what is and what is not, rather than a world of what should be and what should not be. There is no justice until the sword creates it, establishes it, guarantees it, gives it substance and significance." He lifted the weapon, wielding the heavy metal blade as though it were a straw. "First the sword" he said, "then government, then law, then justice."

From Vagabonds of Gor:
"To be sure," I said, "men have occasionally starved in the midst of many things which might most adequately have sustained life. One assumes, of course, that this was the result less of fastidiousness than ignorance."
"Would you prefer to starve in the midst of plenty?" I asked.

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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/18/2009 10:46:06 AM   
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And you find these are not about our nature?

OK. Carry on. I'm done.




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RE: Favorite quotes from the books - 12/18/2009 11:05:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And you find these are not about our nature?

OK. Carry on. I'm done.





It seems that I have indeed misunderstood the scope of "the order of nature". Thank you for your insights.

And I still would like to see more quotes :) for the sake of elaborating on the order of nature, if nothing else.

From Hunters of Gor:
Goreans care for their world. They love the sky, the plains, the sea, the rain in the summer, the snow in the winter. They will sometimes stand and watch clouds. The movement of grass in the wind is very beautiful to them. More than one Gorean poet had sung of the leaf of a Tur tree. I have known warriors who cared for the beauty of small flowers. I personally would not care to be the man responsible for the destruction of a Gorean forest. It is not unknown for them to be hunted down and burned alive, their ashes scattered in expiation by mourning Goreans among the charred wood and blackened stumps. Sometimes it takes, according to the Goreans, a generation for the forest to forgive its injury, and return to men, gracious and forgiving, in all its beauty.

From Beasts of Gor:
It is undeniable that some men, Goreans among them, experience their world in a rich, deep way that is quite foreign to that of the mechanistic mentality. The man of Earth thinks of the world as being essentially dead; the Gorean thinks of his world as being essentially alive;

He cares for his world; it is his friend; he would not care to kill it.

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