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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/19/2006 8:37:29 PM

Nosathro

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greetings

I can say that as a Gorean Master I do not like to discuss my behind closed door activities. I regard my relationships as being personal, not to mention that at my age if a woman is willing to share herself with me that is a most priceless gift.

Do Gorean Masters have sex with slaves, of course they did. John Norman did not go into great detail because if he did the books would be only for adults and back then I can assure you they would probley not been published at all. Goreans by their nature tend to be private people so such matter of sexual activity is not generally spoken. To paraphase a Gorean proverb, before one can master a slave he must master himself. I have come to interput this as learning self control. This means that a Master does not have sex with a slave then goes out and talks about, he is very comfortable with himself and does not need to seek attention by bosting about his sexual conquests.

Then, there is a division of labor. Slaves were trained in various duties. Yes there was the pleasure slaves, the coin girls, Paga girls and Alcoves. But other girls, like kettle and Scribe slaves had other duties and although if a Master wanted sex with them they had to obey, they were busy with their assigned task as well.

I wish you well

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/19/2006 8:39:58 PM

fyreredsub

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sounds like you need to get laid

imo

as to the shrugging, i gave up on trying to understand how you think.

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/20/2006 4:11:41 AM

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Taking a large pace to the rear, From a general view, it has been my experience, that in the hands/arms of the right man, any woman can become a white hot slut with passions running wild. The deeper he drives her ito a state of release the less control she has over her emotions and become more of an animal in heat... Ron talks of the sound of life being pure music. I agree when I have others living here, however the ultimate music is the sound of a woman at orgasm release and all the neighbourhood dogs joining in the screaming wail....

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/20/2006 5:07:47 AM

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fyre, don't worry your not getting it is showing clear. i know you don't understand it, but shrugging and your lil snipes in a passive-aggressive nature, i thought was below you, i guess not. i live and i learn and won't waste my time in the future.

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i guess i am just not explaining this or people just have a block in their head when they see the word sex. i am not talking about the ACT of getting used by a Man. Is gorean society so repressed that they see sex as only what happens in the bedroom?? Gorean females slavery was about the beauty and joy of natural sexuality, the essence of sexuality. Their interaction with Men was usually teasing, flirting, garnering for their attention. Female slaves were fully aware of themselves as sexual beings. Yet its like an elephant in the room no one talks about. Read the definitions of sex. Its not just the actual act. There is so much more to it, and i would think of all the people who realize this and know this, and acknowledge this would be Goreans. Its not about rauchy acts, or getting used, or sucking his cock, etc... there is so much more to sexual and sex.

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The deeper he drives her ito a state of release the less control she has over her emotions and become more of an animal in heat...

Master Ironbear, this is somewhat of what i am speaking about. That can happen many times with women on a single basis type of thing, but when a slave is mastered and owned it is said that she has less and less control over her emotions, her basic desires, and such, and becomes more the beast. What do people think being called a beast means when a person refers to a female slave as a beast. The beast still is there in a female slave, its an aura about her because of that mastery. its right there, a part of her that is not repressed.. The beast, even in a suit going to work shows in her aura.

Here is the definition of that word:
A distinctive but intangible quality that seems to surround a person or thing; atmosphere

A female slave's sexual aura, her sexuality; its natural and being mastered usually makes it ever more powerful within her.

angel

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/20/2006 6:27:57 AM

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Angel,

I'm done. I was told not to waste much time on this and it seems that is what has happened. Your opinions are valuable to you, just as mine are to me, it's ok if they don't run along the same lines. I do wish you the best and much luck in your search *smiles*

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/20/2006 6:32:49 AM

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I don't get the involute and incessant introspection...........AT ALL. Period. Probably just me.

No, you're not the only one, Ron. I also find it to be rather uncouth.

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/20/2006 6:42:32 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: barelynangel

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The deeper he drives her ito a state of release the less control she has over her emotions and become more of an animal in heat...

Master Ironbear, this is somewhat of what i am speaking about. That can happen many times with women on a single basis type of thing, but when a slave is mastered and owned it is said that she has less and less control over her emotions, her basic desires, and such, and becomes more the beast. What do people think being called a beast means when a person refers to a female slave as a beast. The beast still is there in a female slave, its an aura about her because of that mastery. its right there, a part of her that is not repressed.. The beast, even in a suit going to work shows in her aura.

Here is the definition of that word:
A distinctive but intangible quality that seems to surround a person or thing; atmosphere

A female slave's sexual aura, her sexuality; its natural and being mastered usually makes it ever more powerful within her.

angel

Ahhhh Angel, but the general concept of domination and submission is oly a part of this. I'd venture to say that there are more ways of domination and submission in heaven and hell than us mere earthlkings can conceive.. I'll posit that when a Master truely has mastered his girl and she has submitted completely so that he owns her body, mind, heart and soul, he can with no effors take pride in pealing off her inhibitions, the shells she tries to hid in and layer by layer lays her open like a peeled grape for inspection. With the simple raise of an eyebrow of the caress of his gaze he can reduce her into a sobbing, screeming mass of erotic and tormented flesh as her moulten desires mount and begs for him to allow her release... Then truly she knows the exquisit pain and pleasure of his bondage. This my dear Angel is sorcery at it's finest as any who walk those arcane paths know full well..

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/20/2006 7:41:47 AM

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exactly Master Ironbear! i wasn't speaking of D/s or the actual acts but what you described here the completeness of mastery when a Man masters a woman she is slave. Its beyond the serving and the obedience and such its pulling from her things she never even knew about herself, grasping her core and not allowing it retracted. Its this aura about her, the understanding in her of her complete sexual being, a beast within his control who is out of control lol. grins, it doesn't mean they constantly go at it lol or that she can't function in polite society lol but its an aura. i knew i didn't just make it up or imagine it within me when i was owned or within women i know who are mastered to this extent. Its part of being slave of being mastered by a Man. Yes its hard and raw and deep and not so polite, but so what lol.... its part of being a female slave.

This is what i was trying to explain. Its reactionary because she is slave, because she is mastered.. the essence of slave.

thank you, Master Ironbear,

angel

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/20/2006 8:10:26 AM

fyreredsub

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you are cute, angel

but you don't get it,
you have had 4 maybe 5 people try to tell you in this thread alone,
and
if i wished to be snide,

i would have said how rude you were yesterday in your posting in another thread in the way you speak to the free.

spare me the passive-aggressive remarks with as many insults as you have tried to thro my way in my newness,lmao,
and at anyone who didnt agree with your beliefs.

so don't even go there with me

i shall skip your posts...

from here on out
please do the same with mine and i ask respectfully.

for to me there is nothing left to say.

i was joking and methinks i hit the nail right on the head with the way you took it .

so be it

*edited to add a few things
1. i always liked you, didnt understand you,90% of the time,but i did not think badly of you.
2. i have NEVER been shy in voicing my opinions about anything on this boards.
passive aggressive my rear......
3. obviously you missed the other remarks to you in here that were negative and decided to single me out-so whatever-

shrugs n toodles off

< Message edited by fyreredsub -- 3/20/2006 8:36:37 AM >

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/20/2006 9:40:02 AM

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fyre,

As i told another, if i find something interesting i will not hinder what i have to say simply because they don't want me responding to their post. And i don't ask other people to do so with me no matter how many times i have been tempted. We are not in kindergarten. This is a discussion board, you want to ignore a post do so by your own decision. i will make my own decisions on whether i respond to a particular post, as will everyone else. As for the rest or your post, i am presuming it is rhetorical in nature and won't waste my time responding to it other than to say just for the record, i wasn't singling you out, there are quite a few people's posts i don't read, therefore, you are correct, i did miss things they implied simply because i took no notice of what they had to say.

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/20/2006 10:06:35 AM

fyreredsub

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ditto, i have been given my instructions as well.

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Angel,

I'm done. I was told not to waste much time on this and it seems that is what has happened. Your opinions are valuable to you, just as mine are to me, it's ok if they don't run along the same lines. I do wish you the best and much luck in your search *smiles*

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/26/2006 3:58:03 AM

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mrdiscpilen <<< spelled wrong sorry

Do you need that all Groean man have not found that one slave can rule him through his private area? Does it not excite the Gorean to own a slave? To have this slave there to meet his needs? Does he not ever want and lust after the slave he has collar? Then why have this slave if your not lead by your private partsat least a little. Unless you mean you do not like 99% of american men do not think with their private areas
I have come to respect this group and i hope this is not taken as anything other then a statememt with question, oh yes sorry for the mispelling of you name

greeting to all

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RE: Let's talk about sex baby - For Goreans - 3/28/2006 7:06:28 AM

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Greetings Masters,
Greetings Mistress’s
Greetings slaves,

The topic is often one that falls under the silence of Gor. In some ways girl thinks it is because Goreans are so careful about not wishing to be identified with BDSM. For many women however the thing that drew them into gorean communities was indeed sexual. With the ongoing onslaught of cyber sex and downright filth that has become a part of many adult communities it is no wonder the Gorean man has distanced himself from such things.

From a girls own perspective the very fact that Gorean men have their sexual needs and desires under their own mastery is part of what thrills and causes her heart to thunder. Although on occasion she does admit to trying to push her own needs she is happier when the leash is held by a man who controls the issue on his own terms.

When a girl first started wandering into BDSM communities it became very distasteful to watch the manipulations that went on causing men to almost beg for a flash of boobs or to be “allowed” to touch a girl or whip a girl. The “gift” of submission became much like watching which man would “win” her.

Then one day the girl happened upon Gor. It took her breath away. Subbie brats did not hang around long because they did not get the attention they craved. Men would not tolerate such silly games and sex was not an issue that had men drooling like school boys in a locker room.

A girl learned that a man’s attention was something to be cherished, his touch a treasure and his desire far more important than the fire that ached inside her. To be with such men one has only one choice to make and that is to please them in all ways. Then perhaps if you are very lucky and he so desires he will fur you and yumm there is nothing like being taken by a gorean man.

respectfully,

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