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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/4/2010 8:16:54 PM

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it's not only a question if they enjoy bratty behavior but how long they can enjoy it

Some relationships work okay with it osf. It's just different tastes.

i wouldn't even consider daddy dom, not only because of the child support issues if you break up

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 4:54:53 AM

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Hello Icarys and osf,

When did "being bratty" come to equal "Hard to handle"? Hmmmm?

Hard to handle to me means a woman who doesn't just fall down saying "Oh yes, grand poopah brilliant one... You are soooooooo smart and soooooooo wise, and I am nothing without you. Lead me." Bullshit.

I'm hard work. Why am I work? Because I want to anticipate the needs of the man I am with. I want to please him. I am work because I am not an automaton who has no thoughts of my own but I do want to find a way to mesh what I know to be true and his own views. (and yes, there really are things that I know to be true). I'm hard to handle because I want to be able to understand the way he thinks. Therefore, I need to know him, experience him in a vast number of situations, discussions, arguments even, and to trust him. That makes me hard to handle. This does not mean I am mean spirited, defiant or bratty. It means I am a woman with a strong personality and a certain level of intellect. Some men can't meet up with that kind of pressure because I run circles around them. I don't want to be with a man that is three steps behind me, and I've already thought up all the possible scenarios in a situation and he hasn't even realized there is a situation. That makes me hard to handle.

And by the way, I'm also the one you want to totally have your back because I have ... you know.... a backbone of my own!

There is a difference between CHOOSING to NOT handle a spirited woman and NOT BEING CAPABLE of handling her.

People who would classify me as too hard to handle are not capable of handling me. That is about intelligence. There are other people who look at me and decide I'm not their particular FLAVOR of hard to handle. Those people choose not to handle me. That is compatibility.

And gentlemen, you know as well as I do that your bitchy, elbow rubbing, locker room attempts at insulting me are nothing short of immature. You have shown quite a lot about the type of men you are. Icarys, I'm very disappointed to see this in you.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 5:00:41 AM

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Hello Icarys and osf,

When did "being bratty" come to equal "Hard to handle"? Hmmmm?

Hard to handle to me means a woman who doesn't just fall down saying "Oh yes, grand poopah brilliant one... You are soooooooo smart and soooooooo wise, and I am nothing without you. Lead me." Bullshit.

I'm hard work. Why am I work? Because I want to anticipate the needs of the man I am with. I want to please him. I am work because I am not an automaton who has no thoughts of my own but I do want to find a way to mesh what I know to be true and his own views. (and yes, there really are things that I know to be true). I'm hard to handle because I want to be able to understand the way he thinks. Therefore, I need to know him, experience him in a vast number of situations, discussions, arguments even, and to trust him. That makes me hard to handle. This does not mean I am mean spirited, defiant or bratty. It means I am a woman with a strong personality and a certain level of intellect. Some men can't meet up with that kind of pressure because I run circles around them. I don't want to be with a man that is three steps behind me, and I've already thought up all the possible scenarios in a situation and he hasn't even realized there is a situation. That makes me hard to handle.

And by the way, I'm also the one you want to totally have your back because I have ... you know.... a backbone of my own!

There is a difference between CHOOSING to NOT handle a spirited woman and NOT BEING CAPABLE of handling her.

People who would classify me as too hard to handle are not capable of handling me. That is about intelligence. There are other people who look at me and decide I'm not their particular FLAVOR of hard to handle. Those people choose not to handle me. That is compatibility.

And gentlemen, you know as well as I do that your bitchy, elbow rubbing, locker room attempts at insulting me are nothing short of immature. You have shown quite a lot about the type of men you are. Icarys, I'm very disappointed to see this in you.

Best,
sunshine

you obviously missed my post differentiating bratty from playful

bratty to me denotes willful behavior meant to provoke, but then there are a lot like that that turn it into a power struggle, the you gotta conquer me syndrome

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 5:03:15 AM

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There is a difference between CHOOSING to NOT handle a spirited woman and NOT BEING CAPABLE of handling her.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 5:05:28 AM

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sunshinemiss:

There is a difference between CHOOSING to NOT handle a spirited woman and NOT BEING CAPABLE of handling her.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 5:26:23 AM

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sunshinemiss:

There is a difference between CHOOSING to NOT handle a spirited woman and NOT BEING CAPABLE of handling her.

i choose not to have that aggravation, that's not the game i prefer

here's me

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That’s not me, I chisel it on a rock and throw it at her.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:18:03 AM

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I don't think it is about brattiness all the time. I think the ones that are feisty are probably very dominant in their daily lives and looking to let go of responsibility and power. They may also want to be "taken down" by some one who is more dominant and powerful. They want "permission" to be submissive by "being made to be submissive".. It is not very different from the male CEO who wears pink frilly panties under his suit.

Occasionally, people top from the bottom or act bratty to earn punishment. Those are different. They are usually pretty forward about the scenes they enjoy, such as resistance play. They will tell you what they are looking for.

Many people say they are submissive and obedient, but look for subconscious ways to get their way. They are claiming to be submissive and then engage in passive aggressive behavior. That would be more of a concern for me. The ones that don't tell you they are feisty or brats and claim to be submissive or obedient but don't follow through are the ones that create the most difficulty for an uninformed dominant.

Personally, I think it is better to for a sub to be feisty and say they are feisty. The feisty, alpha submissive's and the "bratty" submissives are the ones being honest about who they are. They come with warning labels and allow you to make informed decisions. At least they are real and true. There are plenty of people in the lifestyle who are not real and true. (meaning honest and sincere, not one real way or one true way)

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:21:31 AM

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Personally, I think it is better to for a sub to be feisty and say they are feisty. The feisty, alpha submissive's and the "bratty" submissives are the ones being honest about who they are. They come with warning labels and allow you to make informed decisions.

*warning label added.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:22:04 AM

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bratty v playfulness

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:23:21 AM

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Personally, I think it is better to for a sub to be feisty and say they are feisty. The feisty, alpha submissive's and the "bratty" submissives are the ones being honest about who they are. They come with warning labels and allow you to make informed decisions.

*warning label added.

absolutely

and i state my preferences clearly

some seem to think they have to be that way or they're a doormat

i got news for you all, if your going to have someone in authority over you then you are his doomat

< Message edited by osf -- 1/5/2010 6:25:27 AM >

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:30:37 AM

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< Message edited by sunshinemiss -- 1/5/2010 6:31:05 AM >

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:34:26 AM

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awwww, tell us how you really feel

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:38:43 AM

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I feel...

How about I think?

that it is not necessary to be nasty or to point out the obvious...

that I should have thought before I slapped an ungracious remark up...

that I showed good judgment by taking it away...

that I need coffee.

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:40:30 AM

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The feisty, alpha submissive's and the "bratty" submissives are the ones being honest about who they are. They come with warning labels and allow you to make informed decisions. At least they are real and true. There are plenty of people in the lifestyle who are not real and true. (meaning honest and sincere, not one real way or one true way)

No one true way, huh?

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:43:18 AM

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i got news for you all, if your going to have someone in authority over you then you are his doomat

And you wonder why you can't seem to find someone....

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:45:53 AM

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i got news for you all, if your going to have someone in authority over you then you are his doomat

And you wonder why you can't seem to find someone....

sweetheart, honestly there are plenty of doormat wannabes on here

you need to check out more female profiles

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:46:24 AM

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i got news for you all, if your going to have someone in authority over you then you are his doomat

And you wonder why you can't seem to find someone....

Get outta my head Aileen!

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:47:53 AM

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The feisty, alpha submissive's and the "bratty" submissives are the ones being honest about who they are. They come with warning labels and allow you to make informed decisions. At least they are real and true. There are plenty of people in the lifestyle who are not real and true. (meaning honest and sincere, not one real way or one true way)

No one true way, huh?

Kim

Hmmmm isn't Alpha submissive an oxymoron?

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:48:37 AM

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i got news for you all, if your going to have someone in authority over you then you are his doomat

And you wonder why you can't seem to find someone....

Get outta my head Aileen!

see my post above

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RE: why do some women feel that being hard to handle...... - 1/5/2010 6:51:59 AM

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i got news for you all, if your going to have someone in authority over you then you are his doomat

And you wonder why you can't seem to find someone....

sweetheart, honestly there are plenty of doormat wannabes on here

you need to check out more female profiles

You make me ashamed to be from NJ.
Don't call me sweetheart.

I have someone in authority over me. I am not his doormat.
There goes your theory.

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