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ishyB -> RE: Honor or No Honor? (2/9/2010 9:10:28 AM)
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Greetings nyla,
If your Master and you are not Gorean, then why was it important for you to post this question on the Gorean board?
How is a Gorean's opinion on this subject more relevant to you then a non-Gorean's opinion?
As for your question, I've always learned that a person's honor can only be defined by themselves and their adherence to their own personal view on morals, ethics, codes and such.
Honorable actions aren't defined in a vacuum, but instead by measuring how well a person "practices what they preach" so to speak.
What is an honorable act for one man may be a dishonorable act for another man.
So from the context you offer here:
- Trying to stealing another man's slave might be dishonorable for a man whose ethical code prescribes to him that stealing is in all cases and absolutes a bad thing.
- NOT trying to steal and other man's slave might be a dishonorable thing for a man whose ethical code prescribes to him that he should never lower the bar for himself and act weaker than he is, just because it makes the playing field more "fair" to those weaker then himself.
If this man is confronted with a slave is pleasing to him and that is obviously lusting after him, craving his attention and dominance, but who is currently owned by a man to weak to keep her as strict as she needs to be kept, then walking away from that situation and leaving the weaker man the slave just because he got to her first might be the dishonorable thing for that man to do.
It's all a matter of perspective.
Other than that, I don't agree with the notion that if a man is able to steal another man's slave that that means she was never his to begin with. To me, it just means that she was no longer his at the time she was stolen. His hold on her was weaker than that of the man that stole her away, but that doesn't imply that in the past, his hold on her might not have been stronger, or that the weaker hold he had wasn't enough to master her until she was confronted with another force that was stronger than his.
Edited to add: I do agree with your Master on the fact that a man who tries to steal another man's slave has no respect for that other man. However, again, whether or not a man feels respect for a particular other man has no bearing on his personal honor, unless respecting or disrespecting the other man is in violation with his own personal codes.
I wish you well,
ishy
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