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ORIGINAL: Malkinius
Greetings domiguy....
I am going to make it simple for you. It is so simple that you missed it when Kimveri said or technically quoted it.
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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."~Robert A. Heinlein
Pay very close attention to the last sentence. We are responsible for whatever we do. That sums up one key understanding of what it means to be Gorean. We CAN do anything we are capable of doing....good...bad...legal...illegal...etc. Whether or not we should do it is a moral and ethical choice. Whatever we chose to do or not do, we are responsible for that choice and ALL consequences resulting from it whether good or bad.
Once you understand this point you will understand Goreans much better and why we say things the way we do. Heinlein, like Norman was rather libertarian in his beliefs and I am certain that Norman has read Heinlein. For all I know, Heinlein may have read some of the Gor books. He was an avid reader of science fiction as well as one of the top writers of the genre. For all I know they could have met as an east coast convention at some point such as a PhilCon or a Boskone.
Be well....
Malkinius
Tal Malkinius
well put is what I tried to convey but I see I was lacking in the efforts, LOL
I wish You well
Robert
again I will share this as I just placed it back on My profile..
Looking at Gorean philosophy, the ideals that form a Man, one has to look at each and apply it to himself. he has a duty to be honest to himself, to respect his own desires, emotions, dreams, and beliefs. In all actions a Man does, he must learn control. Knowing and accepting what he is inside, so that he has the confidence within to do what he deems best for himself. Being able to understand that he could be wrong about something, and taking the responsibility for his actions. Knowing when he just can't do it all himself, and knowing how and where to seek help. Being able to learn and grow, every day, and maintaining the control of himself. Losing control shows one hasn't mastered himself. Granted, there are external factors which can cause a reaction, but how one handles the situation as it arises will show how well he has Mastered himself. This Plain of acknowledgment moves forward as he grows within himself, he can then start to debate the philosophies of Others and learn to improve his own. for none are prefect and life is about change. Without change one can not grow to meet the day. I look back on My path and chuckle at My mistakes but take from them the lessons that where taught. I try to help My brothers about Me see from My own doing or undoing a path that may be better for him in hopes that My life and acknowledgment can reach a even Plain. My foe I offer My arm to help him to reach a even Plain for there would be no honor if the fields where uneven... Just as everyone is different, expectations are different between a Master and the slave he collars. Generally, there would be some rapport between each, especially in a Gorean lifestyle relationship. I have seen others speak of things they will of the slave before them, they speak of submission, devotion, servitude, and love. When the slaves have shared, they wish to submit to a strong man, to serve with devotion in every way possible. Gorean relationships, from both points of view, seem to have some requirement of love. And from what I have seen, between discussions online, and visits offline, there is an amount of deep emotion between the Master and his slave. For me personally, I am no different in these respects. I demand the girl's absolute submission and devotion, respectful servitude, companionship and love. I will, in turn, provide the companionship, friendship, compassion, and love to my kajira, discipline when required, and always careful correction and training. Gor is harsh, but not unnecessarily cruel; neither am I. Once this Plain of acknowledgment is obtained he can achieve his goals mastering his possessions to his will his creations come full color for A/all to see, learn from or stand in awe of his works..the power of this plain is not without its respects. he must keep focused on understanding those about him and within. he then within starts on the first path on the plain of acknowledgment why repeat his steps if it is not broken why fix it! IT Works!! the powerful feeling of seeing his dreams unfold can often without avail corrupt him or his work if he strays on the Plain of acknowledgment. True control is within and comes outward influencing all in its path the processed Plain of acknowledgment based on those of ancient and modern philosophies the goal is to find your zen, find a balance in life. the road leading to the plain is long and harsh NO Man should be alone but is he can he see foot prints of those before him or is someone looking upon his. even now in my own journeys of plain acknowledgment I share with those people learning with me for I feel I am in my home…
I wish You well
Robert
< Message edited by MAWarGod -- 2/11/2010 1:59:10 AM >
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RE: Is it ever difficult to be a Gorean? - 
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In the novels, a slave could be bought and acquired by other means supported by law, so generally enslavement didn't need to be too subtle. However, you also asked about the application of things from the books here in the real world. And here, slavery is achieved by internal enslavement. Girls vary and respond differently to different tactics. As Master Koa put it, "A great conqueror will conquer without anyone ever seeing it coming." 
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