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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/28/2010 3:05:23 PM   
nephandi


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Greetings

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This also implies that nearly all women out there are looking for a man that will not compromise the type of man that he is, and from that we can deduct that nearly all women are looking for a leader-type man in their live.


I think most woman are looking for a man who do not compromise who he is, but who know the difference between compromising who he is and making compromises in a relationship. Most women do not want a man who will accept nothing but his own way, the happiness of his woman meaning nothing, it is his way or the high way. Women want a man who can compromise and be a part of a relationship and take her feelings into consideration. However most women will not respect a man who will compromise so much that there is nothing left of him, or compromise on his true nature. I know I express myself terrible here. I hope however I manage to make my meaning understandable anyway.

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This also implies that nearly all women out there are looking for a man that will not compromise the type of man that he is, and from that we can deduct that nearly all women are looking for a leader-type man in their live.


I do not agree with nearly all women. Many women do not want a leader but want to lead them self. But I agree that most women want a man who is a leader and a protector.

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It isn't too imply that all women seek to be abject slaves to all men, but that all women seek to be in close relationships with those men who are capable of mastering her, should he choose to do so.


It is here I disagree with you. I do not think all women seek a man who can master her, many women seek a leader, but many also do not. There are no absolutes in this. One can speak of what is common, but not of what is true for all.

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As such the desire to keep me in slavery is not on my list of what I am looking for in a man.
Slavery might be the result because of the assessment of my personal nature by the type of man that I am looking for, but it isn't my goal. I belief that my status in the relationship with the type of men that I find attractive will always be determined by the man in question, and if he is what I am looking for in a man, the label he chooses to put on me, be that free or slave, has no bearing on the way I personally relate to him.


On this I agree with you. When I first me Aswad I knew he was the kind of man I was meant for. I have been his girlfriend, his sub, his slave and now his free companion. If he choose to make me a slave again, or his wife or anything else I would accept it. I want to be with him and I will let him decide how I am with him. All I know is that when I first spoke with him I felt like I had come come and there was a voice inside me which was just screaming, choose me, choose me. I would look for the same kind of man that be as a slave, a free companion or a wife. It is up to him to choose the place I might have with him.

I wish you well


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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/2/2010 12:03:05 PM   
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I have to totally agree with ishy.
I want a MAN not a Boy.
and with her answers to the questions, I agree totally.
ishy and I seem to share similar values. hehe

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/8/2010 5:38:33 AM   
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Wow.
I have to comment that I have been curious about gorean for a while and have started reading the books. I thought this looked like a good place to find information and it did. It told me that Goreans tend to be self important arrogant nasty people on the whole. Someone comes to you for advice and 90 percent of you give her absolutely none but choose to take the opportunity to berate the girl on her lack of knowledge? I thought gor meant honour and discipline both external and internal. I guess I was wrong and now think it may not be for me. By the way how many of you hard core goreans would be fine with me riding in bashing you and taking your slaves? By the laws that would be fine wouldn't it? I'm guessing the cops would be called real quick. Live by the codes my big hairy arse!

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/8/2010 6:52:13 AM   
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90%?, seems like alotta pages and FAQs here, and I dont see that ratio of rude, hey there are rude folks in all walks of life, and it is not a hegemony reserved for Goreans. You seem to have your share of rude and arrogant nastiness.

Insofar as you riding in and capturing slaves, many here would be fine with that, but not in the way you expect. Give it your best shot, if you find a chain that tickles your fancy. You will either be the victor or vanquished.

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/8/2010 7:33:45 AM   
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First of all, i doubt you could run in and snatch a slave away. See you have a VAST misunderstanding of slaves if you believe that you have the ability to take a woman from a Man. because while you may think you are all that and a box of chips, most of us don't live by PLAY ACTING the books. i don't know any Gorean Men who have ever obtained their slaves through brute force -- so while i am sure you got all warm with that thought -- its time to start learning the actuality of LIVING Gorean instead of roleplaying the books. There is so much more to Gor than worrying about the slavery.

Secondly, IF you are looking at other people to define what Gorean is FOR YOU, then you aren't capable of being Gorean. You are too dependent on other people to help you define who you are. Goreans realize its all up to them as a person -- NOT the actions of others.

Finally, i see no berating of anyone in this thread. Do people in this forum snark at times -- sure but its no more or less than any other forums on this message board. Last i checked someone can have honor and discipline and still be RUDE lol. Do you really have a clue what those words mean you are haphazardly throwing around for a reaction? Are you SERIOUSLY lol trying to manipulate people here with your whiny post and throwing in honor and discipline as if the people who choose to be Gorean will drop their heads in shame cause well gee you are implying their aren't honorable or disciplined because of what YOU choose to percieve as incorrect handling of a situation???

Finally, if you are speaking of this thread -- which i am assuming you are since you posted in THIS thread -- while Goreans may appear rude to you -- we at least realize when the OP is a MAN -- NOT a girl. But i guess you were too worried about hopping on your white knight horse and coming to the rescue of a woman who is being treated soo meanly, you didn't bother to realize that the OP is a guy?

You say now Gor may not be for you -- just out of curiosity are you expecting people to say ohhh noo, it is it is, please stay or please consider Gorean?? Its more like -- well okay thanks for teh announcement. sorry, Goreans realize that a Man has to recognize Gor and his wish to identify and live as what he deems it to be Gorean -- no one will hold his hand to convince him to do so.

You would to me been better off perhaps discussing GOR rather than trying to play white knight for a guy. But that's just me.

angel

< Message edited by barelynangel -- 4/8/2010 7:37:53 AM >


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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/8/2010 10:05:56 AM   
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Oh Noble Knight of the Roundish Table,

Flattery will get you no where...

I'm wondering though.....should we be expecting you for brunch......or are you just another self important British wanker that, in the process of a drive-by mouthfest, assumes he could actually steal a woman we valued worth keeping?

Just curious... Feel free to reply......................whenever.

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ORIGINAL: SirPent

Wow.
I have to comment that I have been curious about gorean for a while and have started reading the books. I thought this looked like a good place to find information and it did. It told me that Goreans tend to be self important arrogant nasty people on the whole. Someone comes to you for advice and 90 percent of you give her absolutely none but choose to take the opportunity to berate the girl on her lack of knowledge? I thought gor meant honour and discipline both external and internal. I guess I was wrong and now think it may not be for me. By the way how many of you hard core goreans would be fine with me riding in bashing you and taking your slaves? By the laws that would be fine wouldn't it? I'm guessing the cops would be called real quick. Live by the codes my big hairy arse!



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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/8/2010 10:39:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: xBullx

Oh Noble Knight of the Roundish Table,

Flattery will get you no where...

I'm wondering though.....should we be expecting you for brunch......or are you just another self important British wanker that, in the process of a drive-by mouthfest, assumes he could actually steal a woman we valued worth keeping?

Just curious... Feel free to reply......................whenever.

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirPent

Wow.
I have to comment that I have been curious about gorean for a while and have started reading the books. I thought this looked like a good place to find information and it did. It told me that Goreans tend to be self important arrogant nasty people on the whole. Someone comes to you for advice and 90 percent of you give her absolutely none but choose to take the opportunity to berate the girl on her lack of knowledge? I thought gor meant honour and discipline both external and internal. I guess I was wrong and now think it may not be for me. By the way how many of you hard core goreans would be fine with me riding in bashing you and taking your slaves? By the laws that would be fine wouldn't it? I'm guessing the cops would be called real quick. Live by the codes my big hairy arse!



I think posts like these are a reflection of what many do here...fantasize. Fantasy is fine but to do so about something which you admit to still be researching, leaves am imaginary vacuum. Empty of enough knowledge to fill-in all of the holes in what might be your visions of grandeur.

For example: Just what told you...'that Goreans tend to be self important arrogant nasty people on the whole.' That kind of statement (prejudice) simply feeds a new fantasy...one of unhappy Kajira that you could swoop down and steal.

Plus, let's be studious...just what is a 'hard core' Gorean as oppossed to say...soft core ? That brought a smile to my face.



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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/8/2010 11:10:20 AM   
xBullx


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I'm gonna assume you're talking to the Pent (up) fellow.

But I might be mistaken, if so, could you clarify.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

I think posts like these are a reflection of what many do here...fantasize. Fantasy is fine but to do so about something which you admit to still be researching, leaves am imaginary vacuum. Empty of enough knowledge to fill-in all of the holes in what might be your visions of grandeur.

For example: Just what told you...'that Goreans tend to be self important arrogant nasty people on the whole.' That kind of statement (prejudice) simply feeds a new fantasy...one of unhappy Kajira that you could swoop down and steal.

Plus, let's be studious...just what is a 'hard core' Gorean as oppossed to say...soft core ? That brought a smile to my face.






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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/8/2010 1:22:16 PM   
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I don't know if I've said this, but if so, I am going to repeat it....

Because it bears repeating!!!!!!!!!


I AM.

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/8/2010 2:04:51 PM   
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quote:

I have been curious about gorean for a while and have started reading the books. I thought this looked like a good place to find information and it did. It told me that Goreans tend to be self important arrogant nasty people on the whole.


You will need to work on your reading skills. "Goreans on the whole respect one another" appears more than once in the books.

Not that it needs defending, and not that anyone would care if it did, but this board is on average far more civil than the others. It is you who seems "to be self important arrogant nasty people on the whole," starting with your need to make the announcement, where mature people would have shrugged and walked.

From your profile,
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After finding fakes crazies and pretenders on here along with a select few good people I'm not looking too hard anymore
it seems you have trouble getting along generically, along with a pathological need to proclaim it.

How's it working? Good luck with that.

Door's over there....

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/8/2010 4:02:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xBullx

I'm gonna assume you're talking to the Pent (up) fellow.

But I might be mistaken, if so, could you clarify.

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

I think posts like these are a reflection of what many do here...fantasize. Fantasy is fine but to do so about something which you admit to still be researching, leaves am imaginary vacuum. Empty of enough knowledge to fill-in all of the holes in what might be your visions of grandeur.

For example: Just what told you...'that Goreans tend to be self important arrogant nasty people on the whole.' That kind of statement (prejudice) simply feeds a new fantasy...one of unhappy Kajira that you could swoop down and steal.

Plus, let's be studious...just what is a 'hard core' Gorean as oppossed to say...soft core ? That brought a smile to my face.


Well yes, I just quoted you both as sort of a mutual query.

Your post gave me a more critical perspective on his post. Plus I love to go after all of the prejudice and presumptions...born of the Internet.

In a general sense, I discovered years ago, of what one might read on the net, I am careful not to fall for the lecturers seduction of jargon and footnotes.

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 4/8/2010 7:51:49 PM   
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Hi there Pent

I hope you got the type of replies you were hoping for, its pretty much a given that if you tell any group of people (especially a group on the internet) they are rude they will act that way towards you just to confirm it and then happily ignore you as stupid in the future.

What you just did is the equivalent of a small boy poking a stick into an ants nest to see the reaction, which never varies the ants boil out of their nest and try to bite the child. I hope you enjoyed the few bites you managed to collect including this one. Personally I find it particularly rude and also a sign of immaturity when an adult of any sex does this on a forum, but on a Gorean forum in particular it just confirms my belief that there are men and there are males and boys.

Be a good boy.
Cheryl

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