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What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a female... - 3/19/2010 11:51:03 AM

DomBlade64

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I dont have alot of knowledge about the Gorean lifestyle. Ive learned a few things but I wanted to ask something I couldnt find out there on the net.

Whats an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a female slave?

What does he look like? How does he treat you? What is his personality like?

What draws you to this way of thinking and what draws you to the Gorean lifestyle?

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/19/2010 12:02:19 PM

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Perhaps this is intended strictly for the women folk, but I think for the men, it wouldn't be of an utmost priority what a girl wanted, and there are those girls walking amongst us that want that.

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/19/2010 12:02:40 PM

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Greetings Master DomBlade,

Master Musicmystery created a great FAQ thread which can be found at the top of the Gorean forum, it is a great source of information. A slave is not Gorean because of her choices, she is Gorean because her owner is Goreans. While there are those who roleplay at being Gorean, those found in the forum here are people who follow philosophies that are found in a series of books written by John Norman. That is the best source of information to be had...

Each girl generally looks for something different, what I might seek might be the opposite of what the next seeks. I can only suggest that if you seek to understand Goreans, that you have a look at the FAQ thread and read the books, spending time reading the threads found in the forum is also a way to learn about the people here and what makes them tick.

verity

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/19/2010 3:32:07 PM

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Greetings Blade....

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomBlade64

I dont have alot of knowledge about the Gorean lifestyle. Ive learned a few things but I wanted to ask something I couldnt find out there on the net.

Whats an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a female slave?

What does he look like? How does he treat you? What is his personality like?

What draws you to this way of thinking and what draws you to the Gorean lifestyle?

I am also not a slave. <grins> But I do have an answer for you. What female slaves look for in a "Ideal Gorean Master" is a Gorean Man. When you understand that answer you will have a much better understanding of Goreans.

They seldom find any who are available and looking for a slave, but it does happen from time to time.

Be well.....

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/20/2010 8:05:13 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: estah

Greetings Master DomBlade,

Master Musicmystery created a great FAQ thread which can be found at the top of the Gorean forum, it is a great source of information. A slave is not Gorean because of her choices, she is Gorean because her owner is Goreans. While there are those who roleplay at being Gorean, those found in the forum here are people who follow philosophies that are found in a series of books written by John Norman. That is the best source of information to be had...

Each girl generally looks for something different, what I might seek might be the opposite of what the next seeks. I can only suggest that if you seek to understand Goreans, that you have a look at the FAQ thread and read the books, spending time reading the threads found in the forum is also a way to learn about the people here and what makes them tick.

verity

Yeah, I checked it out. I do like to hear the slaves/subs opinions on things. I havent read the books yet but plan on it when I find them. Im curious as to how Gorean men obtain their slaves and if there is a system of hierarchy involved in the slaves life.

Red silk
Black silk?

Guess Im off to read some more...

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/20/2010 9:14:47 AM

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I havent read the books yet but plan on it when I find them. I'm curious as to how Gorean men obtain their slaves

This is a bit like saying you're planning on getting a violin when you find one and btw, how do violinists get audiences?

Becoming a violinist takes much more than that. So does becoming a Gorean man. It's not a kink you can accessorize for and then hit the Gorean bars.

When you've finally got it one day, you'll find the slaves come to you.

[Edited to add: If the would be violinist is just interested in audiences, there are easier ways. It has to be about the violin. With mastery of that instrument will come audiences, but they are secondary to that mastery. There may be some adoring fans backstage, but they came because of the violin mastery. The same is true here. Being Gorean is about looking at yourself, your place in society, your place in nature, your preconceptions vs. what really is true.

And then doing something about it. Goreans strive to live well, fully and fiercely. A girl is secondary to such a way of living.

I'll give you an example. A few years ago, I made a joke in passing about holding a Slave Fest here. It was just a quick joke, but girls starting asking about it seriously. Since then, if they seem a reasonable prospect, I've invited them out for a weekend to a week getaway to get a taste of serving. Some worked out better than others, all are still friends. And they still ask, and they're still welcome if I think they'll do well. Why? They are just being what they are, finding they're happier for it.

Be what you are. Learn to do so consciously, according to your Codes. There is no better way to live.]

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/20/2010 9:23:48 AM

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OP, first of all MOST Gorean Men don't even have slaves. Second, those Men who do, i would say 99% of them don't have more than one slave.

So while people could guess at how such a household can run etc, very few would be able to express the actuality of their musings put into play.

Someone said it simply -- a woman who becomes a slave of a Gorean Man simply was compelled to him by who he is. It more than likely wasn't about Gorean or such, it was about the Man. The mistake many people make is they look for the title instead of the Man.

If you are looking for a woman to become a slave, YOU need to know and be very confident within who you are.

Some of my favorite sayings with regard to Men who compel slave within me are:

His will is such i can only be what naturally compels me.

He excudes confidence, i, as slave, know He possesses more than confidence; He possesses power. Power that comes not from practice, but that formed a building block of his character.

I think it was Ygraine who had this quote in her sig line but its SOO true:

Not interested in those who confuse anger with power, bluster for strength, and annoyance for persuasion
paraphrased from The Waiter who writes Waiterrant blog

There aren't Gorean slaves who exist outside of a relationship with a Gorean Man, they are Gorean slaves by the nature that they are owned by a Gorean Man. Their slavery is Gorean in nature because of him, not her.

And on a final thought, my first reaction to your post was -- if you have to ask, you won't get it. I still feel that is the most appropriate and accurate response to your question.

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/20/2010 9:01:27 PM

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Greetings Blade,

While it may not be immediately apparent... there is a very important difference between a stud, and a mangy cur that will hump yer leg, or the arm of the couch, or a football....or... what the fuck ever that ain't mobile enough to escape...

Perhaps it's just vanity on my part... but... my experience has been that females prefer the stud.

Your mileage may vary....
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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/20/2010 11:30:12 PM

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I actually think this is a great topic, not for the "how to find a slave" aspect but because I find it interesting to read about what other women are attracted to.

So I'd really like to hear from some of the women here. What's your ideal master like? Tall, thin, muscular? An intellectual or a man who's down with physical labor? Would you rather be owned by a man who has a FC or a man who was single? Are you more influenced by overt mastery (Do as I say wench) or by subtle mastery (having a bearing that makes you know he won't put up with any BS)? Do you like businessmen, bikers, indie rock stars, contemplative intellectuals, entrepreneurs, what?

Or is all that entirely irrelevant and you'd be open to mastery by any type of man so long as he was able to master you? And for that matter, is it easier to master you one way or another - will a man with commands and rituals and protocols have an easier or harder time mastering you than a man who expects strict obedience without ritual or protocol? Or are the two methods equal?

Thank you all in advance.

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/21/2010 8:07:43 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elisabella

I actually think this is a great topic, not for the "how to find a slave" aspect but because I find it interesting to read about what other women are attracted to.

So I'd really like to hear from some of the women here. What's your ideal master like? Tall, thin, muscular? An intellectual or a man who's down with physical labor? Would you rather be owned by a man who has a FC or a man who was single? Are you more influenced by overt mastery (Do as I say wench) or by subtle mastery (having a bearing that makes you know he won't put up with any BS)? Do you like businessmen, bikers, indie rock stars, contemplative intellectuals, entrepreneurs, what?

Or is all that entirely irrelevant and you'd be open to mastery by any type of man so long as he was able to master you? And for that matter, is it easier to master you one way or another - will a man with commands and rituals and protocols have an easier or harder time mastering you than a man who expects strict obedience without ritual or protocol? Or are the two methods equal?

Thank you all in advance.

This is what I was getting at. Seeing as how I know pretty much nothing about this I just wanted to know the female side of things. I figured the male side was honor and the ever present confidence and etc but what draws the female into such servitude.

I want to get the whole picture.

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/21/2010 11:13:14 AM

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What's your ideal master like?

My ideal man is one that does not let himself be defined by anybody other then himself.

Tall, thin, muscular?

I don't have much preference as to physical appearance (looks). I find a wide range of men physically attractive. About the only thing that is a real turn-off in men is a man that is not able to physically overpower me, should he choose to do so. I like to "fight" a man from time to time, and have little interest in going easy on him in order to enable him to win, nor do I have much interest in those men who I could beat.

Incidentally, the same thing applies to mental strength, and my desire to "fight" him there, though him not being able to win in that area is much less attractive then the lack of physical strength.

An intellectual or a man who's down with physical labor?

Both.
I like men who like to work with their hands, at the same time; I have no interest in men who cannot handle himself in an intelligent conversation on a wide variety of topics.

Would you rather be owned by a man who has a FC or a man who was single?

It depends on a wide variety of factors. Who is the FC? What is she like? What will my relationship with her be? What is the social context? Who is the man? What will my relationship with him be like? How will he deal with the situation of having a FC and a slave? What are his expectations? What are her expectations? What are their both expectations?

If not all of those questioned in a favorable manner, I'd much rather be owned by a man who is single. A "perfect" situation like that is very hard to find, but if it can be, there are a lot of benefits of having another woman mixed in the relationship that can far outweigh the negative aspects of it.

Are you more influenced by overt mastery (Do as I say wench) or by subtle mastery (having a bearing that makes you know he won't put up with any BS)?

Both.
I like men who are divers enough to realize what method is best suited when.

Do you like businessmen, bikers, indie rock stars, contemplative intellectuals, entrepreneurs, what?

All of the above.
Again, I like men who are divers, and who don't let themselves be defined by external contexts. None of the things you mentioned excludes any of the other things you mentioned.

Or is all that entirely irrelevant and you'd be open to mastery by any type of man so long as he was able to master you?

Pretty much, although just the capability to master isn't enough. A man also actually has to do so. There are a lot of situations in which a man might be capable of mastering a woman, but in which he would choose not to do so, either from a lack of desire to do so, or because of circumstances.

And for that matter, is it easier to master you one way or another - will a man with commands and rituals and protocols have an easier or harder time mastering you than a man who expects strict obedience without ritual or protocol? Or are the two methods equal?

Both.
Again depended on context and such.
I like highly ritualized situations sometimes, though these rituals usually grow naturally instead of being randomly decided on.
On the other hand, in day to day context highly ritualized protocol is usually inconvenient, boring, unnecessary and overbearing, for both the Master and the slave. It's just not practical to make up a bunch of rituals to "enforce" her slavery and expect to rigidly stick to them in all situations. Besides that, once a ritual has been in place long enough, it usually loses its power as a ritual, and instead becomes a habit.
I found that the best kinds of rituals (for me?) are the ones that grow natural, and gain and loose and change importance over time and context.

I wish you well,

ishy

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/22/2010 10:07:57 AM

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quote:

Do you like businessmen, bikers, indie rock stars, contemplative intellectuals, entrepreneurs, what?

All of the above.
Again, I like men who are divers, and who don't let themselves be defined by external contexts. None of the things you mentioned excludes any of the other things you mentioned.

Really now? Lets see how I match up.

Ive owned a buisness so that kind of counts for the buisnessman and entrepreneur. Biker? Nope but Ive owned dirtbikes since before my piers took off their training wheels. Been in a band. Play the guitar. Contemplative? I dont do that often seeing as how thats mainly for those with internal conflict, but I do think quite often. Im in college for Biomedical Engineering..So I guess that makes me pre-intellectual?

Seems that your strict standards arent so impossible after all now that I think about it.

Thanks for your post though, it helped!

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/22/2010 12:50:14 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomBlade64

quote:

Do you like businessmen, bikers, indie rock stars, contemplative intellectuals, entrepreneurs, what?

All of the above.
Again, I like men who are divers, and who don't let themselves be defined by external contexts. None of the things you mentioned excludes any of the other things you mentioned.

Really now? Lets see how I match up.

Ive owned a buisness so that kind of counts for the buisnessman and entrepreneur. Biker? Nope but Ive owned dirtbikes since before my piers took off their training wheels. Been in a band. Play the guitar. Contemplative? I dont do that often seeing as how thats mainly for those with internal conflict, but I do think quite often. Im in college for Biomedical Engineering..So I guess that makes me pre-intellectual?

Seems that your strict standards arent so impossible after all now that I think about it.

Thanks for your post though, it helped!

Greetings Master,

I really don't think I have particularly high standards, especially not in comparison to what most girls nowadays are looking for. Most of the things that you most often hear that women say they look for in a man aren't even on my list.

On the other hand, I have very rigid set of standards that I look for in a man that I will never compromise on, but that is basically summarized in one simple point: I want a MAN, not a boy...

As a woman, there are two main things that I look to be provided with by a man and that is a sense of security greater then what I can establish on my own, and for him to be the type of man that I can have faith in, almost in an unconditional way.

While it might seem like two simple little things, they are of the utmost importance I belief, to most any woman out there. How exactly he goes about to create that sense of faith and security in me is really irrelevant. I don't care about what he looks like, what his occupation is and other things like that, because they seem to altogether superficial to me.

Imagine the tall, dark, handsome guy. He has a 250,000 dollar a year job, a great sense of humor, he's faithful, honest, generous, kind, adventurous and whatever other crap you hear women claim they look for in a man. He's the perfect guy right?

Well, it just so happens to be that he's also an alcoholic with a gambling problem... and that's where he just failed to make my list...
I really belief that most women shortchange themselves when looking for men because they have a bunch of socially dictated illusions in their head when they make up their list on who is "Mister Perfect" instead of realizing that all most women really want is security and somebody they can have faith in.

So you are right, I have very strict standards. I will never be/stay with a guy, who cannot offer me those two things, but at the same time, my standards are pretty lax, because everything else will be up to his determination of the type of man that he feels he must be.

I wish you well,

ishy

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/22/2010 9:31:42 PM

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Nice post Ishy,

One thing I would add is that if you took away the mastery aspects of the man you describe is the type of man that most women need (not think they want) in their lives.

Looks, job etc are superficial and change with the years, a strong capable man who can think on his feet and who is able to adapt to changing circumstances without being trapped by his own habits and routines is a man.

Sadly these days both men and women rarely make it out of mental adolescence.

Cheryl

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/23/2010 6:53:47 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cherylmazana

Nice post Ishy,

One thing I would add is that if you took away the mastery aspects of the man you describe is the type of man that most women need (not think they want) in their lives.

Looks, job etc are superficial and change with the years, a strong capable man who can think on his feet and who is able to adapt to changing circumstances without being trapped by his own habits and routines is a man.

Sadly these days both men and women rarely make it out of mental adolescence.

Cheryl

Thank you Mistress,

I actually think that when it comes to seeking men they can have faith in, and who can create security, that is the type of man that nearly every woman on the planet is looking for.

This also implies that nearly all women out there are looking for a man that will not compromise the type of man that he is, and from that we can deduct that nearly all women are looking for a leader-type man in their live.

From that, I would dare to say that nearly all women are looking for mastery in a man, to one extend or another. Not so much mastery in the sense that she will be completely and utterly subjected to his will, to obey him unquestionable as a mindless slave; but mastery in the sense that she will dare to trust to follow his lead, even if in some cases she is fearful or hesitant to do so.

She looks for a man that can command her respect and adoration, much more than she looks for a man that commands her mind and free will. This is what I feel Master Norman meant, when he said things in the books like: "all women are born for the collar; all women seek their Master".

It isn't too imply that all women seek to be abject slaves to all men, but that all women seek to be in close relationships with those men who are capable of mastering her, should he choose to do so.
This isn't too imply that when a Free Woman seeks FC with a man capable of mastering her that she expects him to take away her autonomy, in fact, if he was the type of man who would want to do that, she probably wouldn't have faith in him in the first place; but in my opinion, the Free Woman seeks exactly the same thing in a man that a slave girl would.
It is only that both types of women have faith in the type of men who are capable of realize where she personally, as a woman, fits best, which results in more autonomy in the Free Woman, and less in the slave girl.

As such the desire to keep me in slavery is not on my list of what I am looking for in a man.
Slavery might be the result because of the assessment of my personal nature by the type of man that I am looking for, but it isn't my goal. I belief that my status in the relationship with the type of men that I find attractive will always be determined by the man in question, and if he is what I am looking for in a man, the label he chooses to put on me, be that free or slave, has no bearing on the way I personally relate to him.

The only that changes to me, based on that social status, is how I relate to others, not to him.

I wish you well,

ishy

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/23/2010 6:55:39 AM

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Greetings..

The heart of this as some have said is the Man..regardless of other identifiers applied. For myself it is Wisdom, Courage, Confidence.

The wisdom to know he can set his own course.
The courage to embark on that journey.
The confidence to live it.

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/23/2010 9:18:13 AM

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The only thing I would disagree with Ishy is when you say “all women” I am a disbeliever in absolutes though I have been guilty of using “all myself when going for effect.

There are bound to be women who do not consciously or unconsciously seek a man who can master them, and who in fact would be deeply unhappy with such a man, however I doubt they would look at the “Gorean template” when looking for their preferred mate.

As for your last few statements

quote:

As such the desire to keep me in slavery is not on my list of what I am looking for in a man.
Slavery might be the result because of the assessment of my personal nature by the type of man that I am looking for, but it isn't my goal. I belief that my status in the relationship with the type of men that I find attractive will always be determined by the man in question, and if he is what I am looking for in a man, the label he chooses to put on me, be that free or slave, has no bearing on the way I personally relate to him.

The only that changes to me, based on that social status, is how I relate to others, not to him.

If everyone thought that way we would have more people understanding what the Gorean philosophy actually consists of and less people who think slavery is some sort of BDSM bedroom game adapted to 24/7.

Cheryl

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/23/2010 9:30:59 AM

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Greetings Mistress,

quote:

ORIGINAL: ishyB

I actually think that when it comes to seeking men they can have faith in, and who can create security, that is the type of man that nearly every woman on the planet is looking for.

This also implies that nearly all women out there are looking for a man that will not compromise the type of man that he is, and from that we can deduct that nearly all women are looking for a leader-type man in their live.

From that, I would dare to say that nearly all women are looking for mastery in a man, to one extend or another.

She looks for a man that can command her respect and adoration, much more than she looks for a man that commands her mind and free will. This is what I feel Master Norman meant, when he said things in the books like: "all women are born for the collar; all women seek their Master".

It isn't too imply that all women seek to be abject slaves to all men, but that all women seek to be in close relationships with those men who are capable of mastering her, should he choose to do so.

The "all women" in the last line is a paraphrase from the way Master Norman put it in the books.
I didn't want to imply that I belief this is literally the case for all women, nor do I think did he. I had hoped to make that clear by adding the clarifiers earlier in my post. I am sorry, that I wasn't clearer in the way I expressed myself.

However, while I do agree that there are always exceptions to the rule, I do feel that the type of women who do not seek the type of men I described, are indeed "the exception", and are thus much more uncommon than some people seem to like to think that they are.

I wish you well,

ishy

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/23/2010 5:50:40 PM

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Heya ishy,

I disagree about the wanting to be mastered part...or at least that it's one sided. I want my charms to work on him just as well as his work on me...otherwise it's terribly boring.

<3 you and I have no idea what time it is there but if you're around pop on yahoo :D

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RE: What is an "Ideal" Gorean Master for a fe... - 3/28/2010 11:06:24 AM

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Hello DomBlade64 -

You couldn't find the answer to your question out there on the net because it's not a valid question in the Gorean context. To be blunt, that question shows an ass-backwards line of thought. It is what we refer to as "slave-centric."

Ask most Gorean men what they think a slave's "Ideal Master" is and they'll most likely answer "Who cares?" (although most Goreans I know use much more colorful language :)

It is the slave who strives to meet the standards of the Gorean man. He may or may not grant her certain allowances, but it is only at his pleasure. She is accountable to him, he is accountable only to himself.

Any guy who seeks to "live up to" a self-professed slave's requirements - Well, in my oh-so-humble-opinion...

He isn't a "Master" - nor is he Gorean.

Wish you well,

~Dangrus

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