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alhamdullilah -> RE: Clitoris Removal (3/29/2010 11:30:29 PM)
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If only none of us had ever heard of such a practice, but instead it becomes equated with unconscionable acts of mutilation performed on children, obviously without consent. I think that comparison is inappropriate here, though to set it aside would not change ultimately the attitudes of the majority who've posted their opposition. There are those who are blatantly offended by people like us using the term "slavery" when they've come from other countries in which true slavery still exists - making our exaltation of it entirely offensive. A similar thing is occurring here, it seems. The OP isn't condoning these practices when exacted against the will of an infant or 15 year old.
I'm not so curious as to the reason this appeals to you, femasoslave. I can glean that from your original post. What I don't know and find curious is why your Master is interested in it. I disagree with most of what has been posted, though to be honest, I'm not the sanest lil slut in the assylum. My previous owner used to talk of removing one of my little toes... sometimes referred to as punishment or payment for "all the aggravation" I'd been causing him, while often it was spoken of as simply his right to do so. I was property, existing for his pleasure. Now, only if one agrees with that premise, is it comprehensible on any level. If it is his right, she is his property, again if one accepts the premise, some might still judge him harshly for being so inclined. Why harm your property? many Doms/Dommes have questioned in reply to other expressions of ownership... branding, piercing, excessive "play" or beatings that result in marking the sub/slave, even tatooing... can all fall into this category.
Removal of the clitoris certainly seems more drastic than these examples and I would agree that there is a great deal of risk involved with the potential for infection. These are essentially internal organs accessible from the outside, many of us forget. As an objective voice, I would say that together, you and your Master could probably come up with some other approach to expressing his right and ownership and to your submission and knowledge of your place and value, seeking something extreme to meet that need, of course, but that doesn't carry so much risk of ultimately being a disappointment to your Master should you become unusable for example as a result of something gone awry. I'd bet you would even have fun together finding other ways to demonstrate the same principles you were perhaps endeavoring with this idea.
I often mentioned my own concern to my previous Master who valued me highly for my appearance that I would surely limp without a little toe. But would I have submitted to it? I would have to have been quite secure in his ownership - which in our case, I was not. Had I been, though, the possibility exists that I would've submitted - as in consented, after much research into the risks and long-term effects as well as into my own soul. If I consented, it would have been because it pleased me to please him and the absence of my toe would be a reminder of my place. I still get it. I might never be that sort of slave again but, believe me, I get it. I appreciate it. If your Master desires this as an expression of ownership, I don't necessarily think it proves him an unworthy Master, as has been espoused. But if when informed of all the potential risks involved, full knowledge and communication of which being unquestionably your responsibility, he doesn't show genuine concern... that'd be a red flag, the kind we like to ignore. My guess and my hope is that you have a better man standing over you than that and he may want to reconsider, finding another means of fulfilling the same desire.
You sounded excited in your post, so I doubt you're mistreated. It is hard for people to separate the horrific and brutal acts we've all heard about and that none of us would ever condone, from the drastic measure, though it is, that you speak of hypothetically consenting to (even if we try not to think of it that way as a slave without choices - every day, unless restrained by force, we consent.) I would pursue more academic research than what the message boards have to offer but it is good, I think, to be aware that this is a concept most people in this country, at least, and even here among would-be social misfits electing to partake in not so "normal" kinds of relationships and activities, find absolutely abhorrent. No doubt your Master would miss you if you suffered brain damage and could no longer reason or communicate on any intelligent level; he likely values your mind. So be sure to keep using it.
Best wishes on your journey...
-llilah
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