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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 6:08:34 PM

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For sure, and i know this sounds really disgusting, but some dogs will "get in the mood" around a woman having her period too.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 6:09:06 PM

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I just had an interesting thought hit my brain. Can people have their animals tested for STD's? What are the common tests for STD's in animals? This is rather off the wall to be thinking about, but all this talk made me wonder about it for a moment.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 6:13:34 PM

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LOL... what's sad is that you can't sense that I already know and sense the difference which is sad..

Yes that is sad but quite benign as well. I am sorry I have no idea whether what you are saying is real or a joke or not, I am not paying tight enough attention to the entire thread, topic too gruelling for me for one thing.

Good to hear you are kidding, I dont mind misunderstanding when this is the truth of it. Hahaha.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 6:13:50 PM

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i've heard it said, if the animal is enjoying himself than where is the harm? it's not my cup of tea but i'm sure for some deviants it is the icing on their wayward cake of desire .

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 6:17:59 PM

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LOL... what's sad is that you can't sense that I already know and sense the difference which is sad..

Yes that is sad but quite benign as well. I am sorry I have no idea whether what you are saying is real or a joke or not, I am not paying tight enough attention to the entire thread, topic too gruelling for me for one thing.

Good to hear you are kidding, I dont mind misunderstanding when this is the truth of it. Hahaha.

I thought the link I coughed up on "Necro Beastial Badger Feltching" was a dead give away...

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 6:30:31 PM

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I thought the link I coughed up on "Necro Beastial Badger Feltching" was a dead give away...

Yeah like I said I didnt pay close attention. I didnt see that. I probably read four posts and yours was one.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 6:59:45 PM

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You live in the US.

Bestiality is illegal in the US.

This is a US based Website.

And you didn't think maybe it would be illegal to discuss this here? Honestly.

Think before you post.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 7:27:23 PM

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This is so not my thing, but I'm having a very hard time making animal cruelty out of bending over for Rover. I've definitely seen animals refuse consent for things like veterinary exams, but if the animal is actively participating with ears up and tail wagging, I'm going to have a very hard time viewing what is happening as nonconsensual or cruelty to the animal no matter what it is.

Animals aren't people, and if they aren't physically harmed or immediately traumatized/frightened by an event, you don't have a very good argument that any harm has been done to them. Animals don't understand complex issues like shame and guilt. They can't be harmed by them either. You can't put human morals onto animals; they simply aren't relevant to them.

I'm not advocating this as a hobby because it doesn't seem all that safe or healthy for the humans involved, but I can't see it as animal abuse in the cases of unrestrained voluntary participation. The only potential animal welfare argument I see here is that if an animal is trained to expect these behaviors from humans, it's going to be extremely hard to rehome with anyone else.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 7:54:29 PM

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Bestiality is so wrong on so many levels. I do believe that there is A LOT more to animal sexuality then we humans know. I mean we obviously aren't the only species that gets horny for other reasons then just making babies. BUT inter-species sex is wrong. Until they invent a device that translates animal language, and proper consent can be given, then leave the animals alone.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 8:09:25 PM

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why is Pan half goat? why is he such a sexual attraction to pagan woman throughout history? is it that we desire to be fucked like an animal or is it a level of forbidden eroticism?

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 8:37:05 PM

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I cant read this it rubs me entirely the wrong way. Do not touch the sweet creatures of the planet you messed up humans. Leave them alone, it is not olay, will never be okay, it is wrong, wrong wrong. Messed up messes. Leave the animals
A L O N E!!!

I agree. I didn't need to read this tonight, or any night actually. It's just wrong. I wonder how many men are into it because they couldn't get a woman to fuck them? yeah that. Jerks.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 8:52:39 PM

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This is the most disgusting thread I have ever read...

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/21/2010 11:19:36 PM

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Is there something HARD to understand about staying on topic:? If it happens again the thread is getting locked.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/22/2010 12:51:33 AM

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So you think its OK to do it only if you are gonna kill the animal's babies and eat them but not to do it for pleasure? ... remember this next time you bite into a piece of commercially produced meat . . . they 'milked' those bulls to impregnate the females.

theoretically speaking... unless you force the act, the act is consensual. I never heard of an animal biting or resisting. Many pet animala (not livestock) that are introduced to it continue to seek it voluntarily in the future.

we're omnivores, meat is part of a human diet and has been for millennia. animals eat animals all of the time.

however, species stick to species when it comes to sex. even a horse and a donkey have to sometimes be 'encouraged' to produce a mule. therefore, in terms of having sex with an animal outside of its species is going against ITS nature and therefore totally wrong and abusive and clearly non-concensual.

just because its physically possible doesnt mean you should. personally for me, its up there with paedophillia and murder - its taking an innocent victim and abusing it just because they can and want to. just sick.

ETA - i didnt watch the link, i really didnt want to, but clearly people have and from the strength of it seem to feel that what they saw was acceptable.

some abused kids will respond in much the same way as the waggy tailed dog ive just read mentioned - if its programmed to believe that this is affection it will offer itself. doesnt make it right though does it. try doing that to a horse and youll get kicked into next week. try programming a cat and youll get nowhere. dogs are psychophants by nature and can be trained to do pretty much anything theyre owner wants, like attack and kill, doesnt make it right there either.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/22/2010 12:58:26 AM

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And yet animals choose other animals who aren't their owns breed, to partner them. It may not be common, but it does happen. Birds often choose humans as a mate. Animals even adopt other animals and become surrogates. It does happen, it's just not commen.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/22/2010 1:01:13 AM

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And yet animals choose other animals who aren't their owns breed, to partner them. It may not be common, but it does happen. Birds often choose humans as a mate. Animals even adopt other animals and become surrogates. It does happen, it's just not commen.

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not the same. a corgi goes with a lab, same species. a tabby goes with a tortoishelle, same species, a thoroughbred goes with a shetland, same species.

i have yet to see a cat phuck a bird or a horse phuck a sheep. when it comes to furthering the species animals are programmed to go with their own kind.

adoption of babies happens. a friends mare pinched another mares foal last year, caused major hastle - but that has nothing to do with sex. surrogacy has nothing to do with sex, having a pet *should* have nothing to do with sex, infact in many way, having an animal is a form of surrogacy, providing warmth, food, protection, much like its mother did. but it still has nothing to do with sex.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/22/2010 1:03:55 AM

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And yet animals choose other animals who aren't their owns breed, to partner them. It may not be common, but it does happen. Birds often choose humans as a mate. Animals even adopt other animals and become surrogates. It does happen, it's just not commen. People get freaked out and point fingers thinging it's some human perversion and sick behaviour. When it's not just humans that do it.

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not the same. a corgi goes with a lab, same species. a tabby goes with a tortoishelle, same species, a thoroughbred goes with a shetland, same species.

Actually - dog breeds are a different thing entirely... but that is digression.
But you are right, I should have used the word 'species'... different sppecies do choose other species. It's not common, but it does happen.
The over riding factor in the animal world is procreation, but for sex? Animals (including humans) don't have to use the same species. It happens and it's not just a man made thing.

I am just going to edit to add. After responding to your other thread, I have to wonder just how much people think about sex in general. You know, the 'hot' scenes where people get tied to trees(poor trees all unconsensual) or have sex in the woods or in the sea. How many people actually consider the living creatures that they are involving in their sexual process? It is so easy to condemn people - sentience doesn't negate or destroy animal instincts.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/22/2010 1:06:46 AM

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I'm baffled. In all the years I have been using BDSM forums, I have seen this discussion appear now and again but this is the first time I have seen such reactions to a thread like this being started

Personally I don't agree with bestiality but I accept its something that has gone on for thousands of years and at certain points throughout history was an accepted thing amongst certain tribes and cultures.

Ancient Hindu temples were hidden because of the obscenities by the Victorians because many of the architecture depicted acts of bestiality.

Late last year at the London museum they had an entire exhibition to celebrate all things raunchy in Ancient Greece. There was a lot of graffiti art on bestiality as well as many other things. I found the exhibition fascinating and not once did I hear anyone cry out 'oh my god that's so disgusting. Hang on to my handbag darling whilst I just nip to the loos to vomit' and that is the London Museum for Christs sake!!

And here we are in the modern age, in a place where we practice and talk openly about what many would consider weird and obscene acts, stating we want to vomit because of the thread title

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/22/2010 1:10:24 AM

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And yet animals choose other animals who aren't their owns breed, to partner them. It may not be common, but it does happen. Birds often choose humans as a mate. Animals even adopt other animals and become surrogates. It does happen, it's just not commen. People get freaked out and point fingers thinging it's some human perversion and sick behaviour. When it's not just humans that do it.

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not the same. a corgi goes with a lab, same species. a tabby goes with a tortoishelle, same species, a thoroughbred goes with a shetland, same species.

Actually - dog breeds are a different thing entirely... but that is digression.
But you are right, I should have used the word 'species'... different sppecies do choose other species. It's not common, but it does happen.
The over riding factor in the animal world is procreation, but for sex? Animals (including humans) don't have to use the same species. It happens and it's not just a man made thing.

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im going to have to go and check this out on the net then...., ive never heard of it - interrelated species certainly, but not unrelated.

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RE: Is bestiality cruelty to animals? - 4/22/2010 1:16:07 AM

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Look up birds in particular, those that pair for life... like parrots, certain waterfowls, etc.
Animals are also notorious for imprinting on others when born.

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