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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/18/2010 5:41:39 AM   
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That would be another mega difference of opinion.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/18/2010 7:16:02 AM   
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Well he is patriotic.


Patriotic and moronic are not synonyms.




So do you see how he is a JPM asset?



Get some help.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/18/2010 9:36:37 AM   
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Well he is patriotic.


Patriotic and moronic are not synonyms.




So do you see how he is a JPM asset?



Get some help.




well aren't you special.  You think the world revolves around YOU. 

You are all perfect and smug.    None of us here can never be like you.

Telling someone to get some help.    Isnt that the mark of a talented guru?

Who when you do this- aids and abets the private federal reserve.

So you aid and comfort the enemy.  That same enemy that stole- jobs, houses and retirements from your countrymen. 

We are known by the company we keep.    You endorse this transfer of wealth to the elite.

You endorse hedge fund robber barons.


Then you to tell me- to get help.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/18/2010 10:01:28 PM   
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Breathe dude................ breathe...........


There, feel better?

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 8:25:45 AM   
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To the OP I deeply thank you for your service. I hope you arrive safely home soon. Good luck and Godspeed.

To the rest of you who doubted whether he is really a Soldier serving in Iraq, I believe he is and I am a twice deployed veteran (if you doubt that just go look at my profile pics, two were taken in Iraq (one in full battle rattle)). I base my belief in that he talks like a Soldier and does know about things going on there. And, he nailed all of the flight times out Iraq back to the U. S. Plus, just knowing what Ali Al Salem is shows a lot (quick before you Google it how many of you know what it is?). He refers to his buddies as battles, and just everything he talked about and described seemed accurate. However, I can’t vouch for chemical weapons as I never ran into any (it doesn’t mean no one else did, just means I didn’t). To be a fake he would have had to talk to a Soldier extensively and asked a lot of questions about even mundane things. It just all sounded like someone who has been there.

I was going to write more about the war and my experiences there that are very similar to his, but after reading page after page of this thread I recognized the futility in that. Seriously I am only surprised that he devoted so much time and energy to this during R&R. I would not have done so. In fact, I couldn't even read the whole thread. It became so inane and insane I finally just skipped to the end.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 8:32:02 AM   
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I was going to write more about the war and my experiences there that are very similar to his, but after reading page after page of this thread I recognized the futility in that. Seriously I am only surprised that he devoted so much time and energy to this during R&R. I would not have done so. In fact, I couldn't even read the whole thread. It became so inane and insane I finally just skipped to the end.

I present exhibit R for the doubters yer honor.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:14:46 PM   
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Soldiers returning from Iraq, were you aware that KBR charges taxpayers $100 per single soldier's load of laundry?


Water and other material doesn't come by cheap, and as readily available, in the major forward operating bases, as they do in the United States. Let's take the water route. There are two ways to fill water tanks up... filtering water from a nearby water source, or truck it in. For the large bases away from a major water source, the water has to be trucked in. So KBR has to pay that, and other expenses to wash our clothing. A clean load of laundry goes a long way to improving troop moral.


http://www.berkeyfilters.com/

not is you use this-


That's all fine and dandy, if there were a water source they could use it on. Many major FOBs are away from a water source, and have to truck their water in.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:15:51 PM   
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HFC. I think you are doing this to bolster your own ego. Yes, I REALLY think that.

I also think a great many bad things about you.

I am almost impossible to offend. I take almost nothing here at face value.

Almost nothing here creeps me out.

Your posts make me want to take a long hot shower.


"One thing i have learned in my life is that people expect what they give." -- Jeffff

If you still think that statement is right, then you're staying on this thread to bolster your ego. However, you'd have to be dense to say that, after I've said this:

"I'm back from Iraq, and have a 2 year dwell time before I go back to the Middle East... this time to Afghanistan. I've been doing this since coming back from Operation Iraqi Freedom the first time; almost 7 years now. This war isn't only being fought on the battle field. The people have to know the facts, whether they want them or not. One strategy I use is to destroy the arguments that the opposition is lobbing at me. I don't expect this later group to agree with me. I do this for the lurkers, I destroy the oppositions arguments to demonstrate to those on the sides that the opposition's arguments don't stand up to a blistering fact/logic check scrutiny." -- herfacechair

You see, smart people would go from what I say if they want to know why I'm doing this... as that's reality when it comes to me. Now, why would I consider you to be dense, or rather stupid, after seeing that? One reason is this:

"I have read this entire thread." -- Jeff

If you read the entire thread, you wouldn't be pulling shit out of your rear end about why I'm doing this. I'm not doing this for ego, I'm doing this for a reason that I've explained both here and on other threads.

Do you honest to God think that people are going to believe you when you say that you're almost impossible to offend? Based on your conduct on this thread, you're offended by people standing up for their argument, and who dare say things that you don't agree with.

If you take almost nothing at face value; if almost nothing creeps you out; and if my posts make you want to take a hot shower; then you'd match that with your NOT participating in this thread. You wouldn't even read any of the threads here. Your continued posting on this thread contradicts what you say your thoughts are, with regards to this thread. It also contradicts what your posts try to get the critical thinker to believe. Again, common sense, if the above were true, you'd abandon this thread. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:17:16 PM   
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He just wants to be needed and appreciated.


No I don't. I'm here for the reasons I've stated throughout this thread, mainly to continue destroying the opposition's arguments. I don't need anything from a bunch of strangers that don't have a clue about what they're talking about.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:18:21 PM   
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It would be time for one of my , Blah Blah Blah posts. They seem to get pulled though.

They must be to wordy.


hfc? I have never even considered blocking anyone here.

You might be the first.


The vast majority of your posts here are "blah blah blah." You don't advance a real argument, and you spew nothing but garbage and crap. If your "blah blah blah" posts get pulled, then none of your posts would be around for me to reply to. I could care less if you block me. In fact, blocking me is one of the things you could do to "walk the walk." So far, you're just talking the talk.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:19:29 PM   
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Show me one thing you have destroyed?

Like Wilbeur, you spout but offer nothing of substance.

Sound and fury, signifying nothing.


Read every reply I've given you. Your horse blinders are blinding you to that fact. I also noticed that you ignored the statement by statement comparison that I did with you and Willbeur's statements. Big difference like night and day, with Willbeur speaking like an educated man, and you speaking like a play-ground kid that had the wind knocked from his sails. Don't dismiss a reasoned argument containing facts and reason as "sound and fury."

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:21:03 PM   
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I would agree.

There hasn't been any winning of a debate here.


I've won this debate by advancing a reasoned response, backed by facts, logic, experience and research. I've done this against an opposition that has yet to advance a legitimate post on this thread... or any other thread I've debated on in this and other message boards. The opposition advances an indefensible position. They refuse to answer straightforward questions, they dodge the issue, make strawman arguments, utilize red herrings, constantly repeat themselves, etc. You could argue the facts "indefinitely," but you can't defend an indefensible position without using the tactics the opposition has used here. My questions to them, relevant to the discussion, remain unanswered, my challenges remain ignored. This is the case as the opposition knows that they don't have an argument, they're not confident in their position, as I am with mine.

I won, I've pulverized the opposition on this thread, this is a fact that'd be obvious to the critical thinker evaluating this thread with objectivity and without bias. To say otherwise is to demonstrate intellectual dishonesty. Now, it's just a matter of continuing to destroy their position every time they come back here.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:22:11 PM   
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I believe Ron served. I think you are a liar.

That's pretty easy to understand, no?


Are you willing to place a bet on that? The challenge is still open, the one involving the fact that I did serve. I don't believe mnottertail served, and that's based on his stories not jiving with what I know to be the case in the military. Let's see, you take the challenge as way to tell us that you're confident of what you said here. Your continued failure to accept the challenge demonstrates your lack in confidence in your statement, thus proof that you're pulling crap out of your arse... an easy concept to grasp, no?

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:23:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domigal aka A_ P_, the initials for domigal's stage name.

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ORIGINAL: girlygurl

Jeff, you sounded like Ron for a moment *the "blow me" part*


The playground antique that both display is typical of that of the opposition that I've debated against throughout the years. They pretty much sound alike, whether I debate with them on this thread, on other threads, or on other message boards.


I love how male subs are always so angry...You can't even handle a woman but you expect to be respected as some sort of a warrior....Go drink some piss, you pud.


I handled every woman here, including YOU, very well. April Fool's day was back in April, quit trying to fool people as to how exchanges involving me go. After all these times you've tried to debate me, you still haven't learned. Once constant mistake you make is to revert to your old patterns after coming back under a different name. You make the same argument, and even some of the same types of comments, that you made under different usernames.

You of all people know that I take sadistic pleasure in carrying out these debates. Don't mistake my willing to give people a taste of their own medicine as my, "being always angry." Remember, I'm not the one that's constantly throwing knives into doorways. How's your pocket knife, "pinkie" doing?


Hey A. P. maybe you could put a good word for me to Betty? :D What's really going on is that YOU'RE constantly mad. I know this, as I've lost count of how many times you've vented about other women in the hobby... even spreading lies about them. You need to pull your head out of your arse and seek help. You need it.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:24:39 PM   
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I don't generally share a lot of stuff about my life here.

I personally knew young men who have died on foreign soil while serving.

You make me sick.


I've got a purpose for this thread, and I'm going to stick with that purpose. What's really bothering you is that I'm refusing to stop. That's what you want me to do, yet you take the retard approach to bring what you wish about. I'm doing those service men a favor by doing things like debate against you guys on these threads. You guys represent the forces attempting to erode America's will to fight. I'm making sure that their deaths weren't in vein, and that what the vast majority of them strongly believed in, and fought for, is carried to completion.

I don't care if I make you sick. You're a nobody. Heck, if you had any integrity, you'd get sick at the idea of doing what you're doing here.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:25:54 PM   
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Leave the war dead out of your discussions, the vast majority of them believed in the very things that I'm arguing here. They did it for the reasons I argued here. You've got not legs, or right, to use them in an argument against the very cause the vast majority of them believed in.

Neither do you, but you haven't let that slow you down one bit. You really should be ashamed.

my opinion only of course.


WRONG. First, I'm not going around using them in an argument AGAINST the very cause the majority of them believed in. So you don't have legs to stand on telling me that I shouldn't use them in an argument "against" a war the majority of them believed in.

Second, I have EVERY right to use them in my argument in favor or something the majority of them believed in. I'm doing what I would've wanted other people to do had I gotten killed in action over there. I may not be in the front lines anymore, but the war isn't over for me. I'm fighting those who'd want America to lose its will to fight. If America loses its will to fight, all those loss in life would've ben in vain. My participation here, and using them if needed, is something they'd want me to do given what I've said I'm doing here.

HENCE, there's no shame in me doing this. Again, I'd want people to do this if I were the one that got killed; I do it proudly knowing that I'm reducing the chance that my fallen brothers and sisters would've died in vein... something that would happen if the opposition gets their way on a national policy level.

You've got no leg to stand on telling me what I should, or shouldn't, do, with regards to using the war dead in an argument. I've earned that right by deploying to achieve the same objectives they deployed to achieve, putting my life at risk in the combat zone in the process, and by continuing to argue what they believed in. The right extends to my telling people they have no legs to stand on when it comes to using the war dead in an argument against what the majority of the fallen believed in. I owe it to them to do what I'm doing here. Being that you've never combat deployed to Iraq, you're not going to understand that. So try to use some integrity to compensate for that. Get a clue about this topic before commenting on it.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:43:20 PM   
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He just wants to be needed and appreciated.


No I don't. I'm here for the reasons I've stated throughout this thread, mainly to continue destroying the opposition's arguments. I don't need anything from a bunch of strangers that don't have a clue about what they're talking about.


Apparently you do or you would not continue posting.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:44:13 PM   
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Are you going to apply for service-connected disability for PTSD for OEF/OIF veterans?

dovie


I've already been medically screened, and the only real medical issues that I have are physical, age + military related.

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 4:46:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: domigal (three freckles in a row and a heart shaped birthmark) domigal knows what that means.

So when did you discover that you were a sub? You are perfect army material. The do what you are told type.

Male little subby bitches, like yourself, Usually harbor a lot of resentment for themselves, tend to be very angry at the world for what they have allowed themselves to have become. I understand how you are incapable of creating your own thoughts and how difficult it is for you to stand on your own to feet when the majority of your adult life you have probably been on all fours.

You poor bastard, I almost feel sorry for you now.


I already told you, face to face and via email, when I discovered when I was a sub.

The military isn't just about "doing as you are told." I told you that when you were arguing with me via email as "The Watcher." In the military, you'll receive orders to get priorities of work done. How you get it done is up to you, based on you using your head, coming up with your decision, and remaining within guidelines. People in the military don't have time to stand over each other, with the senior telling the subordinate what to do, step by step, the entire time they're doing priorities of work. This may be the case when training is being conducted, when on the job training is in progress, but not when the person carrying out the orders knows what he's doing.

You're using inductive fallacy in what you say about those people that serve in the military. Walk to any place where employers and employees work, and you'd notice that employers give orders to their employees. Does it immediately follow that those employees are all "subs"? As with their counterparts in the military, employees carry out those orders using their own decisions on how to get the orders done.

As much as we've seen each other, you've demonstrated that you don't understand anything about me. You of all people should know that I've thought for myself. The arguments that I present here are based on my own conclusions. Nobody else has told me, or ordered me, to come to these conclusions.

But wait! There's more!

"Unable" to "stand" on my own two feet? If that were the case, I wouldn't be on this thread this long, debating STILL.

Just as you did when you debated with me using the persona of "The Watcher," you throw the "anger and resentment against the world for what one has become" comment at me. I'm not the one with the anger and resentment issues. I'm not the one that's throwing knives in doors. I'm not the one that takes every opportunity to complain about what other women are doing... as is the case with you. You like to complain about the people around you, including your family members. You blame other people for your predicament, instead of examining the BS mind games you play on people around you.

What you're doing here, just as you've done under your "the watcher" email, is projecting your own faults on your opponent, and getting on my case for allegedly having those faults. You've got this bad habit of creating a situation for yourself, one that you don't like, then complaining about being the "prosecuted."

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RE: Back from Iraq for a short time, ready to answer yo... - 7/19/2010 6:58:39 PM   
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I cannot thank you enough for all that you do. You have my utmost respect. Thank you for making my children safe.

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