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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 7:21:06 PM   
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We obviously have different views on this which is fine. It makes the world more colorful. The reality is neither of us now the motives of the woman involved. Only she truly knows that. All we are dueing is making assumptions and guesses based on our views of the facts.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 7:25:46 PM   
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We obviously have different views on this which is fine. It makes the world more colorful. The reality is neither of us now the motives of the woman involved. Only she truly knows that. All we are dueing is making assumptions and guesses based on our views of the facts.


Seriously?  None of us knows the woman, but her motivations (and his) seem pretty transparent to me.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 7:30:09 PM   
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We obviously have different views on this which is fine. It makes the world more colorful. The reality is neither of us now the motives of the woman involved. Only she truly knows that. All we are dueing is making assumptions and guesses based on our views of the facts.


Seriously?  None of us knows the woman, but her motivations (and his) seem pretty transparent to me.




I am so glad you have a crystal ball that allows you to read into not only the OPs motives from this post but into the womans mind and her motives. Without even a simple post or conversation with her. You should market those skills! You will make tons. lol

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 7:35:55 PM   
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We obviously have different views on this which is fine. It makes the world more colorful. The reality is neither of us now the motives of the woman involved. Only she truly knows that. All we are dueing is making assumptions and guesses based on our views of the facts.


Seriously?  None of us knows the woman, but her motivations (and his) seem pretty transparent to me.




I am so glad you have a crystal ball that allows you to read into not only the OPs motives from this post but into the womans mind and her motives. Without even a simple post or conversation with her. You should market those skills! You will make tons. lol


Thank you, I plan on it.  There are real archetypal behaviors and this story smacks of them.  Thus the comparisons to literature and the focus on deception in the feedback.  Its sweet of you to play non-judgmental toward them.  I'm not sweet, I call 'em like I see 'em.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 7:54:45 PM   
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Wow 18, she really nearly is a little girl

So when you were originally talking to her, were you aware she had a boyfriend? If so, you both deceived him to get what you thought you both wanted. You were happy to be part of those lies. You lead from the front allowing her to lie to him. What do you expect?


I bet this guy has boxers older than his sub....

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 7:56:21 PM   
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I have laundry in the hamper older than the sub.

I am pretty sure it was clean when it got there.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 8:11:16 PM   
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I have laundry in the hamper older than the sub.

I am pretty sure it was clean when it got there.


Dude, I have had bad moods older than this sub....

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 9:22:01 PM   
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  I'm not sweet, I call 'em like I see 'em.



That's hot.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 9:24:30 PM   
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I call 'em like I see 'em.



Oh so do I trust me, I just try to make wild assumptions about people I have never interacted with on any level.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 9:38:21 PM   
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I call 'em like I see 'em.



Oh so do I trust me, I just try to make wild assumptions about people I have never interacted with on any level.



*blink*

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 9:39:31 PM   
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I call 'em like I see 'em.



Oh so do I trust me, I just try to make wild assumptions about people I have never interacted with on any level.


Do some looking in to a skill known as 'warm reading'.  I see people do some really awful attempts at it on these forums.  But its a real skill, and people can be profiled by what they tell you about themselves.  You just have to be careful not to project yourself into the mix.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 9:42:38 PM   
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I call 'em like I see 'em.



Oh so do I trust me, I just try to make wild assumptions about people I have never interacted with on any level.


So we know that this dude is 54

His sub is 18

This makes him like 36 yrs older than her. This is not conjecture

He comes on here and talks about how he is embroiled in a teenage love triangle like this is some bad fucking Twilight romance and he is Jacob the werewolf and her exboyfriend is Edward Culin... and you think this is "wild" speculation to form a "judgment" about this situation? Like we need this dude on a couch for 5 yrs to figure out he wants to bang someone young enough to be his granddaughter and hasn't the coping skills to deal with this situation?

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 9:46:51 PM   
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Is the OP reminding anyone else of Humbert Humbert?

I almost feel like saying thank you for that one.

Lol. It's not purely an insult. Mr. Humbert was a pretty happy dude for a period of time there


You don't think that is an insult? LOL.


I actually think Humbert Humbert is a freakin nightmare of a character - can't stand the man. I was just trying to be nice to the OP, who was trying to be funny (I think)

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 9:51:30 PM   
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I call 'em like I see 'em.



Oh so do I trust me, I just try to make wild assumptions about people I have never interacted with on any level.


So we know that this dude is 54

His sub is 18

This makes him like 36 yrs older than her. This is not conjecture

He comes on here and talks about how he is embroiled in a teenage love triangle like this is some bad fucking Twilight romance and he is Jacob the werewolf and her exboyfriend is Edward Culin... and you think this is "wild" speculation to form a "judgment" about this situation? Like we need this dude on a couch for 5 yrs to figure out he wants to bang someone young enough to be his granddaughter and hasn't the coping skills to deal with this situation?



Actually I do think there has been ALOT of wild speculation about not only the OP but the woman he is involved with. IMO alot of is due to personal bias that so many people have with the age differernce of the OP and the woman he is involved with. Those biases have been made very clear throughout with snide comments in this thread regarding her age. The fact of the matter age does NOT define maturity which is obvious nor does it define life experiences.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 9:56:43 PM   
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Actually I do think there has been ALOT of wild speculation about not only the OP but the woman he is involved with. IMO alot of is due to personal bias that so many people have with the age differernce of the OP and the woman he is involved with. Those biases have been made very clear throughout with snide comments in this thread regarding her age. The fact of the matter age does NOT define maturity which is obvious nor does it define life experiences.


I want to help you because I see you are trying to be placating here and that's somewhat respectable to do.  "Age doesn't define maturity" should be the real subject of this thread.  In your attempt to wrangle the speculation around you yourself are pointing at the HUGE red flag. 

A twentysomething interested in a thirtysomething sure that is open to many interpretations.  An 18 year old deciding that she wants more than anything to sleep with a 54 year-old... not so many interpretations really.  Really.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 9:58:55 PM   
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Actually I do think there has been ALOT of wild speculation about not only the OP but the woman he is involved with. IMO alot of is due to personal bias that so many people have with the age differernce of the OP and the woman he is involved with. Those biases have been made very clear throughout snide comments in this thread regarding her age. The fact of the matter age does NOT define maturity which is obvious nor does it define life experiences.


You are absolutely right... age does not equate maturity. I have this 20 yr old son. He does not live with a woman that is old enough to be his grandma. He is not lying to some old broad while he keeps a younger girl on the sly, txting her, etc. He has not been lying to me about fucking some grandma that has told him he should lie to me about it. His sex life, to my knowledge, has not become public fodder for discussion on some kink forum... why? Because he is mature enough to avoid these problems....

On the other hand, this gal has had all of these problems, including moving into a man's house that is going to kick her ass to the curb, probably as soon as the new wears off her shiny soft baby butt... now that ain't judging, it is just reading the situation as has been presented by the OPer in regard to his relationship with someone that is either A) immature or B) a lying conniving chick who is taking grandpa for a ride or C) she is both of these things.... and since I give people the benefit of the doubt on the internet, I choose choice A

We wouldn't know unless he brought his love triangle to us

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 10:02:59 PM   
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An 18 year old deciding that she wants more than anything to sleep with a 54 year-old... not so many interpretations really.  Really.



I have learned that everything in life is open to many interpretations, some are simply not as acceptable or obvious. So I think an 18 yr old wanting to be with a 54 yr old man is subject to interpretation as are their motives to be with one another.

I think that the age difference has sadly become the focus in this thread not what the OP was seeking advice on. I dont think the sitaution in the OP was based on age. Lets be real 30 somethings, hell 40 something women do that stuff.

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 10:03:22 PM   
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This thread is starting to remind me of another thread, but I can't quite place it...

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 10:09:53 PM   
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I think that the age difference has sadly become the focus in this thread not what the OP was seeking advice on. I dont think the sitaution in the OP was based on age. Lets be real 30 somethings, hell 40 something women do that stuff.


You seriously do not believe that young people tend to make mistakes, and that this is part of what it is to be young? Seriously, you see no correlation at all between age and maturity.. none? I will say that younger people can be very mature, and old people completely immature.. but most people once they hit a certain age do tend to grow up a bit, make better choices, have better insights, etc. To honestly say that age has no bearing at all on this situation seems just odd to me.

I would say she sounded immature if she was living with another 18 yr old pulling stupid teenage crap like moving in with a new boyfriend straight from an old boyfriend... These are stupid choices, often made by 18 yr old girls

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RE: Am I Over-Reacting? - 7/3/2010 10:10:15 PM   
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I have learned that everything in life is open to many interpretations, some are simply not as acceptable or obvious. So I think an 18 yr old wanting to be with a 54 yr old man is subject to interpretation as are their motives to be with one another.


Do you seriously believe that?  I was going to avoid this but here's the short list as I see it:

The OP:
either
a)  Wants an 18 year old naive little fuck toy and is willing to do hell all to accomplish that.
or
b)  Has secret submissive fantasies about being used for his money and is acting them out by pretending to control.

The girl:
either
a) was molested as a child or otherwise grew up with a severe lack of a strong father figure and wants to cling to someone who will fill that void.
or
b) is motivated solely by laziness and an opportunity for a free ride and doesn't mind selling her body for it, a notion that her mother obviously is totally down with.

Don't even bother with the "They truly love each other" option, save yourself.

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