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RE: German Gorean - 1/11/2011 11:44:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: joanneeve
phoenix, the one case was in the same State as the one Master Blazeor is in.


yep, auch mein Heimatland....bin nur temporaer in england

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RE: German Gorean - 1/11/2011 3:08:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Blazeor
How would you decide: for a "mad" mother that live as Slave, for a "maybe brutal" father.

What should be better for the kids?



Grandparents.

For real.

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RE: German Gorean - 1/11/2011 4:25:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella


quote:

ORIGINAL: Blazeor
How would you decide: for a "mad" mother that live as Slave, for a "maybe brutal" father.

What should be better for the kids?



Grandparents.

For real.


or aunts, uncles, godfathers, godmothers

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RE: German Gorean - 1/11/2011 6:39:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Phoenixpower


quote:

ORIGINAL: joanneeve

Greetings,

I was responding to the reasons he listed for the children being taken away. I know several people with children where the parents are involved in BDSM and other such activities, and this is known by the Jugendamt...even after a very nasty and dirty divorce the children still remain with the children.

joanne



still doesn't mean that every Jugendamt might get it, and as stated before divorces can get ugly and if BDSM is missrepresented from a partner with the aim to get the children, it is possible.



This one offers Greetings to the Masters and Mistresses,
Greetings to every one,

This is a very real possibility and huge fear for me, due my situation. When/if it ever gets to court, he has no case at all, just harassment. I never do anything remotely wrong; I am pretty different for this town but still don’t do anything wrong. He harasses me because he doesn’t have a case. Even if there were any local scene club whatever to watch and learn from the shadows, i couldn't go because he seems to know everything i do. Still trying to figure out how he knew Master had a British accent…hmmm. The kicker is that the relationship ended almost 6 years ago. It will eventually get to court and out of desperation and lack of ammunition, i can totally see him pulling that card and i will need to be prepared. Though, i don't know how to go about that, that is the part of me that is missing, the implementation. If anyone knows what i can do proactively to avoid it or stop it in its tracks on a limited budget, Please this girl is begging to know. When i graduate in December and start getting ready to move away to grad school i completely expect this to happen, and i hope when that day comes i am ready for it.

this girl wishes the Masters and Misteresses well,
sweet serves, and well wishes everyone,

tyrasia


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RE: German Gorean - 1/12/2011 3:23:19 AM   
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I agree with the suggestion of alternative sorgeberechtiger....What she might do to fight him is, is get all the medical evidence she can of the broken bones and get 'atest' from a number of doctors saying that her being beaten caused the physical and mental damage. She also needs to file charges against him, this will help prevent other women going through what she has gone through in the future and will also give her more of a case to fight him to get custody. If she can get into a regular self help group and als councilling they will have no reason to deny her atleast visitation of the children...she might also want to have someone from the Jugendamt visit her at home and show them a solid household for the children to visit and also to get a list of things she needs to do to be able to get the children for weekend visits and such things (she has to avoid the whole full custody topic at first).
If she shows she is willing to work hard to see the children she wins points. It will be a long and difficult path but it is still possible...One day she might get the children back. Latest when they are old enough to decide for themselves where they want to live. But for them to decide to come to her, they need to see that she wants them, even if it is only a visit. I also strongly suggest not saying bad things about the father when they are around.

joanne

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RE: German Gorean - 1/17/2011 12:55:49 PM   
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I appreciate all comments, hope for Tyrasia it will work better for her.
I would like to go back to topic..."German Gorean", so i would like to find some here.
Otherwise i work on living Gor or by the way Mediveal without spend much money.
I look for some "work", that i get experience in "welding", "woodworks", "stoneworks", "leatherworks" and "bow or spear hunting" or anything like this.
When i  build Weapons, Household, Clothes, repair a mediveal/antic house; it would make more sense.


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RE: German Gorean - 1/17/2011 12:59:56 PM   
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Here we would call that sort of granite 'Wilkes-Barre'  (pronounced Wilks Barry in english) after the town that had a large quarry, but it seems to me anyway that as a German you would do well if you could get a job setting the grey city street paving cobbles that are so ubitquious in Germany. And you would be in good shape as well, fighting trim as it were, oder?

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RE: German Gorean - 1/18/2011 3:36:14 AM   
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Tal mnottertail,

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Here we ....get a job setting the grey city street paving cobbles that are so ubitquious in Germany. And you would be in good shape as well, fighting trim as it were, oder?


I think you don't understand my intention, i have a job, i am 1,90m with some muscles too. But i want LEARN and have EXPERIENCE as Blacksmith (for tools and weapons), House Repair in Mediveal Style (of stone, wood and gras-roof), make Stone- and WoodArt mediveal Style, and such things that i can need in that mediveal/gorean style i want to live in.
I am not rich, so i try it with own hands like the people in Mediveal times.

Safe paths and be well
Markus 'Blazeor'

at day 4 of the 1st Hand of the Eleventh Month of 10162 Contasta Ar

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RE: German Gorean - 1/18/2011 12:18:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Blazeor
i want LEARN and have EXPERIENCE as Blacksmith (for tools and weapons), House Repair in Mediveal Style (of stone, wood and gras-roof), make Stone- and WoodArt mediveal Style, and such things that i can need in that mediveal/gorean style i want to live in.


Maybe you can find similar versions of it in programmes from the VHS (Volkshochschule)...not saying that they offer exactly what you are looking for, but they might have stuff which might enable your skills which then you can transfer to your interest.

Also, don't know your area from Germany, but where I am from we used to attend school trips to the folks who were building stuff with hot metal...if you look into it maybe you could get some guidance or advice from such folks or with attending such trips you might get within reach and into contact with folks who might be able to help you in that respect.....only my thoughts, doesn't mean they are helpful for you...but that would probably my way to go on about it...

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RE: German Gorean - 1/18/2011 12:38:06 PM   
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you can do alot of blacksmithing on your own.

for regular steel (tooling steel is a whole different set of rules)

you need anthracite coal (not bituminous)
coking coal  (mix coal to coke 50-50 or 70-30 at the least (coking coal to the outside of the mound, and it can be wet. makes like a hard outer shell)

you need to be by a window with good light, it would be best if you dont have lights in the building on.

you need to heat to cherry colored red hot to hammer it, dont hammer dull red, the shit cracks.
Orange peel colored orange is way better for hammering until it hits cherry, then reheat.

to weld steel you would need borax (here we use it for laundry) and you dip your ends that you will weld in the borax to use as a flux.  

In order to make good welds you need to get the steel up to white linen sheet white, and watch it closely, because if it starts 'sparking' or melting from there you are burning the metal and it is shot.

you can weld from white to orange and when you hammer, the flux will shoot out like water, and sparks like       sparks, and it blows out horizontal to where you hammer, but never fear, it wont burn you (however wear safety glasses)  now.......

you should have a dirt or sand floor if possible, because cement will actually eject little chips that are sharper than hell and hurt like a motherfucker and are generally dangerous.......and just about everything else burns.    

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RE: German Gorean - 1/18/2011 1:29:13 PM   
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A good way to make contact with people who might be able to help you learn such skills are speaking with historical reenactment groups in your local area. In the Kassel area there are a number of these group, several which have people who are well versed and educated in this sort of skill range.

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RE: German Gorean - 1/18/2011 1:30:08 PM   
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Do you also have old farm machinery meets?  Many of the steam engine people have blacksmith shops on site.

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RE: German Gorean - 1/18/2011 3:02:54 PM   
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Ron, you never cease to impress me.



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RE: German Gorean - 1/19/2011 10:11:21 AM   
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Well thank you most kindly, Bull.  With age comes wisdom, I suppose. Either that or it is not very hard to impress a Tuchuk from Iowa of Teutonic heritage. 


If you want to be really impressed with me, my friend, buy a trash pump and start filling sandbags forthwith, cuz we are gonna be sending some fuckin tsunamis of water your way this spring, and you can quote me.



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