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RE: Walking the wreckage - 11/30/2010 3:25:03 PM

Terrah

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Tal LouveOO,

Nope.. was on another type of server actually something I stumbled onto by accident while there. Trying to remember the name of it actually, kinda driving me nuts because it's one of those things I should have remembered ya know? I was not FC'd to anyone at all for the first 3 years or so I came online. I just couldn't get with the whole concept of having some cyber ding-a-ling to answer to online. LOL I was on Dalnet for years however, then slowly migrated to what was the first Gorean net, or Gor net was a part of IRC. Peresus and I ran a fairly successful room for a few months until I found out what he was about and well, enough said there. Yes I judged him from what he told me about his personal life not his online life. I will never regret that one. I had heard he died a few years back now from his extensive heart condition, and that made me sad if it was indeed true.

I was not Terrah then, but if you want to message me you could or anyone could for that matter and we could reminisce some, I have very limited time, so don't expect a fast response, I can barely keep up with the email I get. LOL Now on to other projects, for some reason they continue to plague me now even if we don't have any guests here at the moment.. who knew it'd be this much fun?

Merry Christmas to all, yes I said it, not happy holidays... ugh some of us are just well.. just. LOL

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RE: Walking the wreckage - 12/2/2010 12:05:31 PM

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When I first found things Gorean my oldest was I think 9, I look back and say wow! Just yesterday that 9 year old boy got off a plane after serving his country overseas and drove off to be reunited with his own family at his own house.   So much has changed since those days long ago. So many of us have changed. We have seen people come and go, some come back under new and improved names, some just come back. Some go away again. We talk about things of old, things of new. We raise our blood pressure to arguments we fought over a million times before. We sigh over sounding like broken records. We have defended ourselves, our choices, our lifestyle, our very beings with such passion and conviction. We have quietly slipped away in the shadows of obscurity. We have shared laughter, tears, anger, frustration, joy and sorrow with others.

I can never hug that 9 year old boy any more, the way I used to. I can only look back and ask myself, did I do right?     All that passed over years of online interaction became meaningless, the true testament of being Gorean and touching a life stands as a man that was once my boy.

Do we “need” a place that once was, those golden chat rooms filled with lively talk and banter, shared learning and friendship? Have our memories become clouded with age for even those chat rooms were filled with that which we despise today. As so often happens we dwell on the good and forget the bad. No we don’t “need” that which has gone before we need to move on to what is before us.

Yes a live chat room filled with spirited discussion minus all the baggage and crap that tends to infest so much of our interactions would be a delightful thing to see. Where we could be free to discuss and be open minded enough to see all the sides and not just someone’s narrow interpretation of it. Where we can shape ourselves and others with knowledge, opinions, ideas. Where old and new have much to learn from each other, teach each other, open minds and embrace the future. So far this has been a fleeting dream, one wished for over and over again. Will it come to happen, we can hope and see.

Perhaps in time my son will look at his son and I will look upon them both, perhaps at that time I will know if I did it right.   Until that time, no matter where I am, who I am with or where I hang my cyber hat, I will not ask how to live, I will simply proceed to do so.

Jahna

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RE: Walking the wreckage - 12/3/2010 3:46:24 PM

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Thanks to those of you who emailed and messaged me about the topic. Keep your ears open, you never know what you might hear.

Best to you all,

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RE: Walking the wreckage - 12/9/2010 10:24:38 AM

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~FR~ (edited to add comma)
this one offers the Masters and Mistresses greetings,
Greetings everyone,

The experience I had was quasi-similar to Mistress Terrah’s except from the other side of the kurt, so to speak. Master Roaring and His slave mirra were everything to me as I learned my nature. He taught me about the local community and how to find and conduct myself at them. He trained me for real time relationships and challenges as best as He could while He owned me in 2000ish, with the camera and His camp, later tavern where I served. I never went to S&S regularly, but I went enough to know about when it changed. Time to chat on yahoo diminished as a local enough Master claimed me and I went to Him and school in the frozen north...and when i came back...it was gone. Last year I searched as best as I could and landed here, where she saw familiar names. Though time is still short to type letters like this, with the end of this part of school looming, I read and feel the comforting echoes.

So what about a vent server? They are cheap, and I could swing the first year or so (depending on population), and it supports voice, type, room making...*shrugs* just the idea I had while reading this thread. If there is anything I can contribute, I will gladly. Service thing ya know.. :p

this slave wishes the Masters and Mistresses well,
serve well and be well all,

tyrasia

(Main profile hidden for personal reasons, but fetlife one not…long story will tell if someone wants to know but it’s too exhaustive for here….but yah there is me…there,… too ha! Now I know thermo has finally fried and scrambled my brain)

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RE: Walking the wreckage - 12/10/2010 5:53:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Terrah
Tal all,
Now I could hardly read all of this without comment. I was wondering where to start, so I reckon the beginning is always best. I went to another site before silk and steel were even online at whatever that particular site was, gee been so long I forgot it already on IRC. I talked with a person at this time of being on this site I was on... gee, can't remember the name of that one either but it closed some years ago.
Terrah

Hello Terrah,

Before I and another opened the S&S, I spent two years or so looking for things Gorean on the net. I found a web site or two, mostly BDSM-themed (I recall Minx Kelly's being one of the better ones) and despite searching the fledgling IRC networks I found no Gorean IRC chats or channels. What I did find, and perhaps this is what you might be recalling, was a place called "#Bondage" on Efnet.

It was a typical BDSM channel (not that such a thing is a bad thing) and the only "connection" it had to things Gorean was that the owner called his sub his "kajira". It was flavor, nothing more. At no time while I was there (and I was an op there for quite a while) was anything even remotely Gorean discussed. It was all tickle-and-spank stuff (It might be important to remember the context of such a thing, however, back in the early 90's when actual typed-chat between people online, even such things as above, was something new and exciting. You could describe an elephant defecating and someone would show up to comment).

Other than that place, I came across nothing remotely Gorean on IRC - and I received a lot of strange "looks" and replies in the places I did go to - so I would be interested in this place you mention to find out if it was a "gorean" type site or not.

Can you recall anything else about it?

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RE: Walking the wreckage - 12/10/2010 6:31:14 PM

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I remember #Bondage. It was filled with water balloon fights, a couple of the key characters were King Tut, and someone who watched one too many episodes of Dark Shadows...and went by the name Barnabas.

AOL was my first computer experience, sad, but true, I had no clue about chatting online, but through a website, clicked a link that took you directly to this channel on mIRC. It was crazy. What was funny, through the years, is that more and more started to mimic online gorean serves, you actually heard the term kajira quite often.

Most there were of the one handed typing club...but once in a while something special wandered in.

I don't know the time line, but there was a place on Dalnet, in rivalry with SS, The Chain....or something like that?, my mind is failing tonight. There was also Brak and the gang, they did alot of role play online, but so did most of the rooms on Austnet..maybe that is where you were Terrah? It was pretty nuts, they used to "raid" other rooms, lol First time I heard of someone "dying" online... ah, those were the days.

Lisa
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RE: Walking the wreckage - 12/10/2010 7:19:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AlwaysLisa

I remember #Bondage. It was filled with water balloon fights, a couple of the key characters were King Tut, and someone who watched one too many episodes of Dark Shadows...and went by the name Barnabas.

AOL was my first computer experience, sad, but true, I had no clue about chatting online, but through a website, clicked a link that took you directly to this channel on mIRC. It was crazy. What was funny, through the years, is that more and more started to mimic online gorean serves, you actually heard the term kajira quite often.

Most there were of the one handed typing club...but once in a while something special wandered in.

I don't know the time line, but there was a place on Dalnet, in rivalry with SS, The Chain....or something like that?, my mind is failing tonight. There was also Brak and the gang, they did alot of role play online, but so did most of the rooms on Austnet..maybe that is where you were Terrah? It was pretty nuts, they used to "raid" other rooms, lol First time I heard of someone "dying" online... ah, those were the days.

Lisa
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I guess you could say that we kind of "infected" the net - in certain circles - with things Gorean. I've stated before here that when we first appeared on Dalnet and got popular, the BDSM Doms actually created a petition to throw us off of Dalnet because we "ruined their subs".

Soon after that, of course, "gorean" became the flavor of the month online - something that lasted for several years, in fact.

A lot of memories.

I recall the uproar on various IRC channels and discussion boards when AOL announced that they were about to let the "great unwashed masses" loose upon the internet in general (prior to this, one had to have some small bit of experience or knowledge on how to get *on* the internet and where to go when you did - hell, this was pre-World Wide Web!) (Damn! I'm old!)

It was thought that the AOL'ers would certainly drive the intellectual level of the internet itself down into various depths of absolute depravity (which did not happen, of course.) (Indeed, it took World of Warcraft to do that, many years later).

"The Chain" on Dalnet was run by a fellow named MilesX (about whom, interestingly, I just had a conversation with someone here), who also ran a channel called "Dungeon of the Elves" which was some kind of a kinky Legolas-meets-De'sade kind of thing. I think. I never went there. His man raison d'être, as far as I could see, was to be online because he did not like the S&S (we probably tossed him out of the channel at one point, that was the usual reason most disliked us, anyway) (Incidentally, some of the most popular ops in the S&s were, at first, tossed out on their ass. Sometimes we did it just to see what someone was made of, and if they would come back).

I was once messaged on Dalnet by a girl whom was known to us in the S&s, who was upset and confused because "Lord Brak" messaged her out of the blue and "collared" her and demanded she come to his IRC channel as "serve" him. She wanted to know what to do.

It was something new. My heart broke a bit, I think, at reading that at that time.

But I suppose I was too busy laughing to notice.

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RE: Walking the wreckage - 12/21/2010 5:32:28 PM

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Tal All.

Having been on-line for quite a few years and still having one of my original email address, I would offer some thoughts.

One of the issues that many seem to miss is the impact on those of Gorean thought of 9/11/2001. Many Goreans vanished soon there after as the work load of military, security and emergency personnel expanded both in the US and other countries. Sadly, some returned from abroad having made the ultimate sacrifice. Even today, almost a decade later, there are Goreans serving long hours protecting us.

The pace of our lives has increased even for those not engaged in such critical endeavors. One simple example is that, even using automated tools to assist me, my email traffic has escalated almost 300 fold over the same decade. Many have to work two jobs to break even. Employers are more intrusive in policing the use of government and corporate computers. I can not imagine many of the playful practices, such as playing computer games on main frame or server computers being allowed today.

No one has come up with "Gor-Twit" while the easy to use social networking alternatives have drawn others away. I recently read an opinion piece that stated that AOL would follow Compuseve and Delphi into oblivion within 5 years.

The question, in My opinion, that is more appropriate is the one that examines whether those who feel the Gorean ethic deep inside can maintain that behavior in the years to come. Whether by face to face meetings or converstaion, or by rereading the books, or by just being true to the concepts in One's life, that seems to be the only way.

Just a few thoughts.

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