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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 10:21:49 AM   
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Thank you Bear.

As I deleted my posts (yeh, I got caught up in the frenzy), the feeding monkey essay popped into mind.   I was hoping you would post it here.

Lisa

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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 10:24:22 AM   
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Hey Lisa,

Sometimes it's just fun to feed the monkey.  We all need to laugh at times.  :)

Take care,

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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 10:26:05 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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Horseshit.  I hope there are unicorns in your world!

You are so far out there, I wonder if you have to gnaw through the restraints in order to post.

May all your fantasies continue to make you happy.


False alarm on Master being awake. care to elaborate, which is horseshit, my all around general postings, my devotion and slavery to Master, or my Master's degree???? so confused. O and that should have read may all my fantasies continue to be fufilled. no problem on the correction.

KATYLIED
then by all means get the mythical unicorns outta here, as for me and possibly Master we are here to stay like it or not, omg wait, sheeew , yep still a free world......sorta


All of the above, but in particular, the fact that you claim to be college educated, with a degree in a field that does not exist, and you can not spell, I would have to say that is the pile that is the biggest and steamiest.

Now I will master my self, and quit feeding the monkeys.  But man, it was fun while the bananas lasted!

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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 11:25:00 AM   
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If you don't mind me saving you some typing, I don't usually read your posts -- except for as brief a skim as I can stand. They make my eyes bleed.

K.

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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 12:03:50 PM   
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I dunno if it's legitimate to use the term "person" there. I've seen posts made on his account signed in several different ways.

Of course, that's merely a side issue.

K.


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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 5:48:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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ORIGINAL: Arturas


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Anywho, finishing my Master's in Nursing then onto become a Nurse Anesthesiologist, HEY I thunk i speelled it wright?  


Anesthesiologists are physicians who focus on surgical patients and pain relief. They administer anesthetics, which are medicines to prevent patients from feeling pain and sensations; closely monitor patients' vital signs during surgery and adjust anesthetics accordingly; monitor patients through the first recovery stages after an operation; and administer appropriate medications during recovery. In addition to helping patients through surgery, anesthesiologists may also help treat patients with conditions causing chronic pain. Many specialize in specific types of problems, such as respiratory or neurological illness. More than ninety percent of the anesthetics used in health care are administered by or under the direct supervision of an anesthesiologist.


Nurse Anesthetists are specially trained registered nurses who administer anesthetics to patients undergoing medical, dental, and obstetrical procedures. They are an important member of the surgical team, and usually work under the direction of the attending surgeon, dentist, or anesthesiologist. Some of their duties include getting supplies and equipment ready for procedures,
 
google for nurse anethesiologist and there is no such thing.....so....you are what?
 
My apologies to those who want to let this thread die.  I am on vacation until Tuesday, and just really want to understand the complex creature we know as art/star.



Greetings,

I've seen her study. I've been at her colledge. I did google it. It exists contrary to your statement. This would make star truthful and you...I'll be polite...confused.

Arturas



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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 6:02:16 PM   
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I can not find any mention of a certification for "nurse anesthesiologist".  I highly doubt it.  All I can find is Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist.  Please ask her what her actual would-be certification is.

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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 6:20:31 PM   
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Are you that insecure in your life, are you really this sad you need to come on a mesasage board and challenge men to what Arturas?  What exactly do you want from these Men because no, its not discussion you want, it's not commeraderie even of men, its damn straight not debate because all you do is speak of yourself and star as if people really care.  The way you post just has me wondering what you really seek from these men, its almost like you are gleeful when you gain their attention.

angel
   This is pretty much on point.  To me it looks like the continual quest for validation.  Rather than a strong sense of identity and self-esteem acquired through discipline and accomplishment, there is a crystal-clear sense of both posturing and the need for validation.  The cognitive bias which sees someone's reasoning effectively become "People respond to my idiocy, ergo I am important" is a clear sign that there's something screwy in the world model here.

Basically I see no indication that value is being offered.  Mere self-aggrandisement and posturing.  From my perspective while some of the discussions amongst Goreans became absurdly abtruse at times, the philosophical ideas and attitudes toward male/female interaction have value.  However when someone takes this idea and thinks they're founding a dynasty of two and refers to themselves in such a way, there is no doubt in my mind that there's some massive overcompensation for inadequacies going on.

In short, it seems incredibly unlikely that anyone will take this seriously.  I presume people have considered the virtue of simply hiding or ignoring the posts in question, so I can only presume that either threads are being continually derailed or that it's like a train wreck from which you simply can't look away.

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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 6:38:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Okay, i wasn't going to post this but i can't stand it anymore:

Arturas,


Take this as you want but seriously, you come off like a woman who lives best as a slave.  To me, it comes down to two things with regard to who is posting, either star is posting as you or you are.  But the way you post, you post like a woman does when she challenges men and gain their attention because she wants to be a challenge for them.  Which is why i and others think star is the one who actually posts.


You see Arturas, many times most women who need to be slaves aren't exactly cooperative in their slavery.  They like to challenge the men who would be their masters.  They like to obtain their attention and toss their head with a silent -- prove it -- look.  Prove you can be my Master.  Now this isn't done with everyone and you don't do it with everyone.  They however, do set their sights on certain men they react too.  They will challenge these men, sometimes with their wit, sometimes negatively with passive-aggressive insults or induendos, sometimes with their sexuality, and they will interchange these approaches to get a reaction.  Doesn't necessarily have to be the all out you are mine bitch reaction, but many times its the get the ball rolling reaction they need, the Man's attention.


Your posts come across like the women i explained above Arturas.   You are seeking the attention of Men and not to be insulting but you are doing it like women have done it for centuries.  Now i know you and star are separate people, but if its not star posting for you on this forum all this time, then you come across like a woman.  This is what has been nigging at me for a long time now.  You seek the attention of men.  The women you simply fob off with some insult, but the men, you engage, you flirt with them, you are passive-aggressive with them trying to gain more from them than what they are willing to give you.   That to me is what women who need to be slaves do.  They want more from men, and they utilize many different aspects of themselves to match those men they need.


You don't have to agree with me, in fact, i didn't post this for any commentary, but i wanted you aware of it.  Perhaps you need to stop and take a look at it, but i doubt you will.  But that's what has turned my stomache with me as i watch you post over and over, because you are a man who is seeking the attention of men as women who need to be slaves at times do.

Now your side kick is back with you and once again you both have turned this into a circus.  Seriously, you did the same damn thing last year, give it up already. You seem very desperate to pit yourself against men, as i said above, there are two options with regard to posting -- either star is posting as you or you are posting.  The movtives however behind the posts dont seem to change much -- you seem you have something to challenge men here with and you seek their attention.  I don't get why.  Are you that insecure in your life, are you really this sad you need to come on a mesasage board and challenge men to what Arturas?  What exactly do you want from these Men because no, its not discussion you want, it's not commeraderie even of men, its damn straight not debate because all you do is speak of yourself and star as if people really care.  The way you post just has me wondering what you really seek from these men, its almost like you are gleeful when you gain their attention.

angel


Greetings,

Who did I challenge and how? Specifics, no waving of the arms and no using my reply to some fool who flamed me. Let's try and be fair. Yes. Really, after all, I am the OP.

Angel, I am puzzled by this question: You ask me what exactly I want from these men. My honest response must be: I never "wanted anything from these men" as you put it. I've not made any statement addressing them, only those in reply. "These men" can participate in the thread or not as they please, I care not.

The reactions here including your own suggest fear of the stranger, fear of new ideas, fear of new interpretations and fear of the unknown. This is understandable but the depth of that reaction is not. It is simply flaming attacks rather than debate and we both know it so don't give that activity some noble attribute that we all know it does not have.

As for asking for something or being insecure, what would lead you to go in that direction? I would suppose being insecure would lead someone to lurk and not participate yet we all know I don't do that even though many of "the Men", actually 3 or so only, wish I would. I also would suppose being insecure would lead "These Men" to attack rather than debate as we have with nobel intent.

So, you really should see what is obvious, I fear nothing here or ask for anything except a humble place to start a single thread (and the most active, I must suggest, about damn time, sheesh what a dead place.) and come in contact with those who might share or at least want to debate these views. In that we have been successful. Was this too much to ask? No matter, I will not ask even if I wanted to at this point. I will take.

Along that line, we encourage more CMAIL from any who might want to converse with a real time Gorean House directly without being treated as a "stranger".



We also are doing a Gathering this summer locally in the Southeast, it will be fun and we do encourage BDSM "distractions" on purpose, because we found them in the Sagas and hell, we like them. "Players of Gor" suggests again that a woman's sexual pleasure is sometimes increased by the application of terror which, in my role as a Leather Dom as well as a Gorean Master, I certify this is the objective of most BDSM activities. Players says "Terror mixing with the other feelings of the female, can be a powerful stimulant to PASSION" (my caps as we all know my feelings on Gorean passion).

The Gathering theme is "Gorean Passion". It will be inside, I'm renting a nice place I've talked about in the past. All may write this account for the location and time.

Well wishes and Live very well,

Arthur.


< Message edited by Arturas -- 1/2/2011 6:58:43 PM >


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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 7:46:23 PM   
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I did google it. It exists contrary to your statement. This would make star truthful and you...I'll be polite...confused.

It certainly does exist, and good for you for saying so. The phrase "nurse anesthesologist" is most definitely used, and in declaring this truth you are right as a rock over which the wind can only blow helplessly. It just isn't used by Nurse Anesthetists.

1. The national professional organization:
        American Association of Nurse Anesthetists

2. The national certification board:
        National Board on Certification and Recertification of Nurse Anesthetists

That would appear to make someone... I'll be polite... confused.

K.

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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 9:36:56 PM   
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Please, don't feed the monkeys.

If you feed them, they become excited and agitated. If you give them attention, they will accept it and demand more and more of it from you. If you speak with them, they will simply screech louder, throw more excrement...



Indeed.  May the poo-slinging come to an end.  Ten pages back there was a topic, if you look carefully past the passive-aggressive swipe at posters of this forum that the original post contained.  Please find the topic or move on. 



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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/2/2011 10:41:59 PM   
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Google close translation of Zevar's last post.

Arturas Greetings:

With good ideas I say: I think it's always good to show strength in all done. It also has to be hospitable to those we choose to not view as enemies. However it is always a decision that differs to others in comparison. I offer for Family greetings from my family. Of course, your path can always present what sharpens your character will always be more to you.

Be Well, My brother Gaelic.


Greetings MsLadySue:

Fair enough translation. However the following is the specific English translation of the Gaelic translation meant for Arthur, that was in reply to his presented topic "Fear the stranger?"

Greetings Arthur:

It is with good thoughts that I say: I think it is always good to show strength in all done. It is also good to be hospitable to those we choose to not view as an enemy. However it is always a decision that differs for others, in comparison. I bid your Household blessings from My Household. Of course may your path always present what sharpens your character, which always become more of who you are.

Be Well, My Gaelic brother.


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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/4/2011 12:10:25 PM   
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Hello Zephyr,

My point I was making, obscure as it may have been; is a person chooses whether to feed a monkey, it's their choice.  But actually Kirata nailed where my thinking was going, and he articulated it very well.   Garbage needs to put in the container yes?  If you leave garbage out, it rots and stinks.   Being proactive is putting the garbage out, and sadly there has been a lot of garbage here recently that belongs in the trash.  Happily many people have stepped up to the plate to dispose of it before the smell got too bad.  ;)

Take care,

Elizabeth

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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/4/2011 12:30:47 PM   
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Hi Mistress Elizabeth,

I'm sorry if I offended you, I was just making a bit of a joke, which fell flat. Serves me well for not having had enough coffee in my system at the time. I agree that there is some garbage lying around which needs to be put in a container and thrown away. Sadly I can't see that happening any time soon.

Happy New Year, Mistress,

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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/4/2011 1:10:26 PM   
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Zephyr,

All a person can do is keep on trying, and not give up.  Hopefully eventually garbage will become compost and something good will come of it.

Take care,

Elizabeth

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RE: Fear the stranger? - 1/4/2011 1:53:27 PM   
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As it may have been missed:

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Please find the topic or move on.




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