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Things taken, things left behind? - 1/11/2011 7:10:38 PM   
WolfyMontgomery


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Greetings and salutations,

I am not necessarily Gorean, but I do have an interest in it and want to learn more about the lifestyle that is of Gor. I've been reading the Gor novels (not in any real particular order, I've noticed a fondness for those books that specifically have something to do with slaves, wonder why ), so far I've read about five of them. Granted it's not a great lot, but I have taken a good portion of the philosophies present in the books and applied them to my own outlook - or simply realized that I was thinking that way all along - but I know that there's plenty of stuff I've also pretty much sloughed off as pure 'story' as well.

With that in mind, I was curious to see how things were applied or ignored in other people's views. I'm not talking about the actual plots and story story, but rather those parts of his 'essay' dialogues that don't necessarily ring true, or ring true but on a more base sense rather than what Norman was speaking of, or certain protocols or regulations/rules that were present throughout the Gor books that you don't feel can/should apply to Earth life, or just to your own personal life. And I'm not necessarily talking about things that define the "Gorean lifestyle" either, but rather just pieces of what others include IN said lifestyle.

Basically: What are some aspects of the books did you took and adapted into your life, and what are some aspects that you left behind?


To answer my own question:
The great many statements that not all are 'equal' rang extremely true to me, I could never be equal to my Master in strength, nor in most physical things, just as he could not be my equal in art. Perhaps equal in overall value as human beings, but not equal as in the same.
Being true to ones own self rather than striving to be equal with others who you cannot be equal to also made perfect sense. I strive to perfect those things I have skills in, that are part of myself rather than to try and perfect something I have no talent for. In some ways this applies to the FAQ thread about Honor and Integrity - as I cannot be complete and whole doing something that I am not made for, and I should take pride and honor those things that create me, and being honest with myself about who I am.
These were large concepts that I took and adapted into my own life in some way.
Things that were not included the impression that I had that Norman was insisting that women made perfect slaves and were meant for it - I believe it is purely dependent on the person, and not gender specific. Of course, there were more free women than slaves in the books, but there are a great many comments that I have seen where a slave ponders how a free woman would do with a collar and brand and whether they are really being true to themselves as she is.
Another was the worldwide protocol within the books that slaves were to submit to ANY free man or woman, which I will admit gives me a very strong knee jerk reaction whenever I see someone mention it when I peek into any Gorean group. For Master and me, it is a very personal, individual attachment between us that brought out the slave in me, and only towards him, thus it is often hard for me to understand universal submission. Not to mention the fact that this would be extremely impractical in the real world. So it was something that I left as part of the story (and a nice element in the books, I might add) but not something that I took for my own life.


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RE: Things taken, things left behind? - 1/12/2011 5:32:00 AM   
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Greetings Eleven,

Welcome to CM. YOu can read through the archives to find my views on various things. The Gorean FAQ that is sticky at the top of the first page is a good way to get a feel for some of what we have discussed.

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RE: Things taken, things left behind? - 1/12/2011 4:22:48 PM   
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greetings,

what rang true to me was when a slave girl wept in frustration, finding herself helpless in the face of his mastery , so eager to please him and not being able to sway him from his course of action.

In modern society we see the man chasing after the woman in romantic pursuit, this is very different than what you experience in a Gorean M/s relationship.

so I learned to accept and revel in my nature and I learned what it means to weep the tears of a slave girl.


well wishes
kisshou

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