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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 8:04:25 PM   
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I have been talking to a slave about extreme captive play and it has her wiggling. I would be very interested in the community’s thoughts, fantasies, and experiences with it. I will reiterate our discussion.


First of all... I am not one that does much fantasy thinking.  My thoughts are always directed on what I can achieve and will achieve at some very real point in my life.  These things could be years away or in two hours, but I will make them happen.  Yes do have a fantasy thought from time to time, but it passes usually as quickly as it comes.

Extreme Captivity Play is one of those things that frankly is more fantasy for most and a very slim reality for a very few.  So, my thoughts is not to spin a great fantasy... but to take a scene and make it a reality... for that is what I do!

I will state very clearly... THAT no play, scene, or session no matter how long or short can anyone be fully prepared for.  There will always be events and situations within the scene that can't be accounted for.  The longer a scene, the greater the probability that the unknown will occur at one point or another.  So first Rule.. As Prepared as you thing you are.... Be resigned that your not Fully Prepared!

Legal implications.... The Top has the majority of the risk if not all!  In a legal context, this activity will be punishable.  The law doesn't allow for consent for this type of play.  So don't fool oneself in thinking that there is no risk or nothing to worry about.  Remember, as bottom could consensual go into this scene, but within the scene consent could switch.  Reliance on the bottom calling the safe word to end the scene if they want... frankly is stupid! 

Psychological Implications.. The bottom has the majority of the risks if not all!  It is all find and dandy to claim one will watch for the psychological well-being of the bottom.  But frankly, medical professionals in the field have difficulty in this regard so why does any Top think they are going to be able to do it without issue.  Fact is, if one is well read and/or trained in Psychology/Human Behaviors all you can hope is to minimize risk... but the risk is still very much there.  At any point, you can break a submissives will power within the scene... The Role-Play could change in a moment!  It can go from Role-Play to A real perception.  Guess what happens when the person is released.  They go to the police and your screwed!  It's real risk for the Top... not something to take lightly.  The question is what can on do to minimize if not take this risk away.

Resource Implications.. It must be considered what is needed to carry out the scene... Biggest resource.."TIME"  not only the time of the bottom but the TOP as well.   Just think all the people you have contact with in a given month.  Parents, kid, friends, work, the gas meter guy.(yeah don't forget, the bottom does live somewhere and that place has to be cared for, like the lawn)  Now think of yourself unable to contact with anyone that month.  Don't forget that the family reunion, or mom's birthday or what about that big contract at work that is happening... there is many many things one must consider in there monthly activities.  Not only what they do, but those things that just happen.  Friends pop over unexpectedly,  or a family member dies.  yeap... I heard the thought already, I am going on a long trip... well just how many go on such a trip in the first place and are not able to be contacted.  If this is out of the ordinary for the bottom or Top... then you have more complications to deal with and work around.  for example.. what happens if there is a death in the bottom's family or even the Top's... what are we just going to Stop it... what about AFTERCARE!!

Aftercare is a big one to me.  Anyone things they are going to just walk away from this with significant feelings and thoughts are dellusional.  Plans for aftercare need to be made for sudden ending of the scene to the normal expiration of the scene as expected.  Aftercare is not going to be short and in some ways it could last longer than the actual scene.  What is going to be Aftercare... in large part it is going to be recorporating the bottom back into their daily routine they had before the scene... and we talking long before the scene.  You can be sure that the many weeks leading up to the scene wasn't exactly normal.

The actual relationshp between TOP and bottom must be considered.  It would be a very much an underestimation to think that the bottom is going to quickly walk way from this scene without significant Attachment to the Top.  Any attachment that was prior to the scene will actually be magnified.

There is alot of Risks in such a scene... and there is going to be Consequences.  These Risks and Consequences are both going to be forseeable and unforseeable.  Frankly, the ones foreseen is not a big deal to me for one can make the work arounds to minimize those risks and or consequences.  However, those unforseen ones... those are the bastards that will kill ya.  If your Resources are stretch tight to make the scene happen... then you have nothing to pull in reserve to deal with the unforseen.  A seen such as this can't be safely done without alot of support.  The Top MUST stay rested and undistracted from the scene.  He must have others to rely on to carry the load on tasks that are of critical importance but are secondary to the scene.  The stage hand is a key to the actors on stage.... don't forget the stage Hands!

This is a scene that will ebb and flow.  Up and down.  It's not a scene that will have a steady rise to a climax.  There will be stretches of boredom and sudden moments of intense excitement.  This is not a sprint....IT's a Marathone!  So understanding the Pace... As JW indicated.. you can end the scene with prematurely by taking it to high for the bottom... to the point that you break them quick and suddenly all the work comes crashing down.  This is a scene... that I would start out with the intensity of the abduction and then let the person dwell for a day or two.  Let it sink in... slowly turning up the heat and with sudden spikes of heat. Let it cool off at times.. LET IT GET BORING... oh an idle mind is a wonderful thing!  Consider it like a rollercoaster!  KEEP IT ON THE RAILS.  with highs and lows.  Anticipation and screams of the free fall. 

Just a few thoughts... yes... this is a scene I have been considering for about two years now.... But realistically, it would likely be another 15 plus years before It can realistically happen for myself... maybe shorter but not likely.

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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 8:06:23 PM   
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Ok... now how do I get involved ??  <WEG>



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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 8:38:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: quietkitten

Ok... now how do I get involved ??  <WEG>




*Pencils her in as a resident captive* Your in and for rent. LOL

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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 8:45:24 PM   
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Maybe borrow one of LAM's skunks for a while? 
 
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Very very good post classy. Smell is one of the most powerful senses we have, don’t forget to wear a very unfamiliar cologne/perfume. Your sub will feel very secure in your hot and sweaty natural scent, which they equate with passion. So stink it up with something knew.


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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 8:45:26 PM   
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Loki, I was going to give you a map to my place, but I hear you don't do well with those...

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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 9:02:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: quietkitten

Loki, I was going to give you a map to my place, but I hear you don't do well with those...


It is an unfounded rumor. I am building anticipation.

< Message edited by Wulfchyld -- 5/6/2006 9:14:23 PM >


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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 9:15:14 PM   
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My sub has often expressed the desire to live out an abduction fantasy: he longs to be kidnapped and held hostage, then be forced to perform various sexual services for a group of Dominas.

I have often considered the many logistics involved for a prolonged captivity: timing, place, costs of equipment and building a holding cell, how much capital would be needed to foot the bills for a captive for six months, a year, two, three...

If he had any idea that I would actually hire some 'acquaintances' to grab, blindfold, gag, bind and transport him to a cage in a remote dungeon where he would not be found, I seriously doubt he'd be such a willing submissive to Me.  There are times, when he's so docile lying there trussed up in rope, blindfolded, that I laugh out loud at the thought of his friends and family not seeing him again for months....*wicked, blood curdling laugh*

I would be thrilled to hold him hostage, knowing full well that once the reality of it set in, he'd be panic stricken about 'when he could really go home...'

The sadist in Me would gladly abduct him and keep him under wraps, even though it would cost him his family, his job, his career.....

MMmuuuuuaaaahaaa haaa haaa haaa haaa haaaa....

<twirls her fingers in delight.....and whispers:

    "Mine, All MINE......................................................."

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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 9:22:02 PM   
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Hmmm… TX, have you considered staging abduction for him and then driving around long enough to actually make him think he is in the deeper, more foreboding, region of Mexico. Have everyone speak Spanish around him and keep him blindfolded and captive in a cold damp basement whilst the others speak in Spanish of whoring him, torturing him, mule training him. I think you would now within a few hours just how much he could take. Perhaps, quickly if the captures spoke Spanish during the abduction and drive.

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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 9:34:10 PM   
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Actually, since I speak fluent Spanish and know exactly where I could do that right here, yes, I've given that much thought.

; )

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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 9:37:47 PM   
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The problem is, for him it's just a fantasy.

For Me?

I'd gladly keep him captive for years...   ; )  TM

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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 9:44:51 PM   
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I would love to here how a scene worked out for you. I think the capture and truck ride will divulge just how slave he is.

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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 9:45:49 PM   
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I think this comely wench needs to be taken off the ship
and to the island.  There are several secluded groves in
the trees, and a lovely waterfall.  Plus the cabin boy
would not be able to view her for a while.
 
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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 9:49:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

I think this comely wench needs to be taken off the ship
and to the island.  There are several secluded groves in
the trees, and a lovely waterfall.  Plus the cabin boy
would not be able to view her for a while.
 
Vendaval


Ahhhhhhh. More torture. -whines- No cabin boy to toy with me? Just looking at a waterfall?


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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 9:54:27 PM   
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Girl, don't be thinking about the cabin boy now.  There are
other ah..."plans" for him.  You are going to be a pleasure slave
for a few days out here on the island.  (Removes all of slave's
remaining garments except for shoes, puts a straw hat on
slave's head.)  And you won't be needin clothes for that!
 
Vendaval
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: wytchywoman



Ahhhhhhh. More torture. -whines- No cabin boy to toy with me? Just looking at a waterfall?



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So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 9:58:36 PM   
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Vendaval, I was thinking we could put her in a locking hood and leave her in it. Her olfactory, hearing, and kinesthetic senses would heighten and the sweet torture we deliver upon her would be magnified. I was thinking a similar scene that I described with Imp. A purely sexual sadistic scene where she is blindfolded, set jockey whilst you flog her overhead as she pleases you with her sultry slave lips.

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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 10:05:19 PM   
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Yes, some well applied clamps and clips, a bit of knife play,
vampire gloves, both the thud of a heavy flogger and the
sting of a cat'o'nine tails, and anonymous, unpredictable
arousal, building to a slow fire.
 
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld

Vendaval, I was thinking we could put her in a locking hood and leave her in it. Her olfactory, hearing, and kinesthetic senses would heighten and the sweet torture we deliver upon her would be magnified. I was thinking a similar scene that I described with Imp. A purely sexual sadistic scene where she is blindfolded, set jockey whilst you flog her overhead as she pleases you with her sultry slave lips.


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So in this gray haze we'll be meating again, and on that
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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 10:22:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

Yes, some well applied clamps and clips, a bit of knife play,
vampire gloves, both the thud of a heavy flogger and the
sting of a cat'o'nine tails, and anonymous, unpredictable
arousal, building to a slow fire.
 
Vendaval




Tag team? A Dom and Domme and just wiittle me? Wait? I thought I was supposed to resist! Yes. Resist. But the two of  you are making it sound like too much fun.




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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 10:36:11 PM   
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Tie that woman to the yard arm and swing her to port for the sharks to sniff maties!!!!!!!


somebody please help me....anybody please cut me loose, i've been bound here for two days now trying to escape and those sharks are looking more and more impatient!!

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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 10:42:26 PM   
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somebody please help me....anybody please cut me loose, i've been bound here for two days now trying to escape and those sharks are looking more and more impatient!!


I think eaten by shark should be that last of your worries... yum!



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RE: Extreme captive play - 5/6/2006 10:49:14 PM   
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*buys a ticket fot the next voyage*

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