Ishtarr
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I know wiki isnt always valid. I also stated the group I read it in no longer exist. Im asking around to find out the link for info as it was while back that I saw it. Im also trying to find whatever I can.
If you're aware of the fact that Wikipedia isn't always valid, perhaps in the future you may research its sources.
It is them, after all, that you are attempting to quote.
From the interview that Wikipedia gives as a source for the statement that the Gor series would be "influenced" by Edgar Rice Burroughs:
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Your books are sometimes compared to other works like Edgar Rice Burroughs' John Carter Warlord of Mars novels. What is your take on all of this?
I think Edgar Rice Burroughs is a wonderful writer, and certainly the possessor of one of the great imaginations of all time. His position in the history of science fiction is unique, secure, and well-deserved. That being the case, it is obviously flattering, if dubious, to have my work compared to his, or his to mine. Certainly we both have in common a love for adventure fantasy, a love for human beings, and a willingness to feel deeply, and celebrate simple, important things, such as courage, wonder, and determination. The world is often disappointing, hostile, dark, mean,shallow, pointless, and boring, and into such a world fantasy sometimes bears its redemptive, joyful torch, lighting a way to better things and deeper understandings. It can remind us of what we are, and can become, and that there exist such things as meaning and nobility. It is not apart from the real world, removed from it, but, like the imagination itself, a part of the real world. It makes the world better. Edgar Rice Burroughs bore that torch well.I, and millions of others, thank him, and celebrate him. This much said, I think that my work and that of the great Mr. Burroughs,whom I greatly esteem, are quite different. The easiest way to see the difference is to read both.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/41530641/Polygraff-Magazine
It seems pretty clear from this that the Wikipedia article is a blatant misquote of their source, seeing that Lange admits having admiration and respect for Edgar Rice Burroughs but at no point does he claim, nor admit, that the Gor series has been influenced by Edgar Rice Burroughs.
In fact, in that very same article, he does name 3 other authors who have greatly influenced his work, and Wikipedia completely neglect to mention any of these 3 influences.
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I will give you one last item to think about. Quite obviously the three paramount literary influences on the Gorean world are Homer, Freud, and Nietzsche. I have never read a single critic who noticed this, or commented on it. Perhaps they have never heard of those fellows.
So much for Wikipedia's accurate in this case, considering that besides mentioning influences Lange never claimed to have, they also neglecting to mention influences Lange actually does claim to have according to their own source.
If one is aware of Wikipedia's inaccurate, DivineDemise, one might do well to read the sources of the articles one reads, in an attempt to discover the truth in a more honest and a less sound-bit like form.
It seems rather peculiar to me that Lange would ever have admitted -in any other article- that: "the of Mars series is where Norman got most of his ideas" if he in this article, when pushed for that kind of admittance, doesn't even quote the Mars series as an influence on his own work, instead naming other authors as his influences. Why would he neglect to mention the influence the Mars series has in this article, to then in another article admit that he got "most of his ideas" from said series?
Maybe, just maybe, Lange got most of his ideas from the authors he actually quotes as his influences, and didn't base his work at all on a random science fiction author whom he -among so many others- greatly admires and respects.
And maybe, just maybe, the reason you're claiming that "Lange got most of his ideas from the Mars series" DivineDemise, is because you where in a group where somebody who had read the Wikipedia article made some statements; and that somebody quoting of Wikipedia had not checked sources, and thus hadn't realized that Wikipedia had blatantly misquoted Lange in that article they read; and that somebody made statements exaggerating Wikipedia's already wrong information because it sounded better than literally quoting Wikipedia; and then you came here and exaggerated the false information you had read from somebody who had read and misquoted a Wikipedia article that's blatantly wrong.
Because if that's not what happened, you're just plainly making shit up.
< Message edited by Ishtarr -- 1/9/2012 1:57:35 PM >
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