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Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/26/2011 10:47:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Has anybody here who has had an ectopic pregnancy (baby in the fallopian tube) that was successfully carried to full term?



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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/26/2011 10:55:14 AM   
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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/26/2011 10:58:30 AM   
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that's disheartening

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 2:34:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		My friend's Wife had one. Yes it was quite problematic and dangerous. However she is the type of person who would never consider terminating a pregnancy, not that she's religious, it's just against her morals. She insisted on carrying to term and was successful. I wonder if the kid knows that she really did risk her life for him.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 2:51:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting, Termy, as I was under the impression that an ectopic pregnancy could not survive.

It has been nearly 30 years since I had kids, so I'm probably not up on things.

This is a bump in hopes some knowledgeable folks will chime in.


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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 3:12:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ectopic does not have to be in the fellopian tubes. In the tubes, it is not possible as they will rupture - leaving the mother to bleed internally until either it's fixed, or she bleeds to death. But ectopic pregnancies can be implanted basically anywhere except in the uterus - and yes, some of them in other places can be carried to term, although it is typically advised against.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 3:57:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh yes, I do believe my friend's Wife was advised to terminate, and I don't think that would've been all that pleasant either, but I don't know because I am not that kind of plunber. It probably depends on just where in the tube it is.

She is an amazing Woman really. The Gods or something smiled on her because for one she could've died. What's more they thought she wouldn't be able to have any more kids, but she did. Eight years later the kid has a baby sister. I don't know if she was tubal as well, but they decided to stop at two anyway. Both of the kids are doing great. She is proud of both of them and I suspect she is glad she went through with it.

Note that from what I've heard this is a quite rare occurance. The Mother could die and most will terminate for the obvious reasons and any doctor will advise to do that I think. But every once in a while someone gets lucky I guess. Glad it happened to her, she really is a good person.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 4:03:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		I almost died when my ectopic ruptured the tube it was in, I know they have been transplanted if caught in time, but I didnt even know I was pregnant(I had had my tubes tied a year before) until the pain got to the point I was vomiting and peritonitis threatened.
That however was 20 years ago, so it probably has little to do with what can be done these days.
I wish your friend the best of luck.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 4:15:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've never heard of an ectopic pregnancy going to term. It usually dies within the tubes from those I've known who had them. Or brings such devastating pain to the mother that if not removed it kills the mother.



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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 4:34:34 PM   
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Or brings such devastating pain to the mother that if not removed it kills the mother.



I have never had pain like that, every orifice I had was putting forth projectile nasties. I wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy. That was the day I knew my hubby loved me beyond all reason , lol he had a god almightly mess to clean up after he left me at the hospital, but held my hand , rubbed my back, held my hair back, gave me cloths and washed me, brought me a pillow and blanket, and never left my side until the ambulance came.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 6:06:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		"I've never heard of an ectopic pregnancy going to term."

From what I've heard it is extremely rare.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 6:10:31 PM   
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That's what he's supposed to do. It's nice that you had something real, people are just......... well, I'm not quite sure how to put it.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 6:18:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		one of the kajillion reasons Im still married to him Termy:) Ive been a nurse and would have found it difficult to provide that much caring at what happened that day.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 7:11:50 PM   
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Oh yes, I do believe my friend's Wife was advised to terminate, and I don't think that would've been all that pleasant either, but I don't know because I am not that kind of plunber. It probably depends on just where in the tube it is.

She is an amazing Woman really. The Gods or something smiled on her because for one she could've died. What's more they thought she wouldn't be able to have any more kids, but she did. Eight years later the kid has a baby sister. I don't know if she was tubal as well, but they decided to stop at two anyway. Both of the kids are doing great. She is proud of both of them and I suspect she is glad she went through with it.

Note that from what I've heard this is a quite rare occurance. The Mother could die and most will terminate for the obvious reasons and any doctor will advise to do that I think. But every once in a while someone gets lucky I guess. Glad it happened to her, she really is a good person.

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Read SweetDommes' post. Your friend's wife could not have an ectopic pregnancy within the fallopian tubes, as once the embryo grows large enough, it will rupture the tube. There is no "depends on just where in the tube it is". If she had a full term pregnancy, the embryo had to have implanted elsewhere - not the fallopian tubes and not the uterus.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 7:14:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry, but I am still confused. I get an ectopic pregnancy can survive if transplanted...but not in the womb? Well shesh where?






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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 7:16:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ectopics can happen many places, including in the abdominal cavity (one place with enough space to carry till term.  If one does manage to carry one to term, delivery would have to be by c-section.  Without fetus fully in the uterus vaginal delivery is just not mechanically possible.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 7:20:37 PM   
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Sorry, but I am still confused. I get an ectopic pregnancy can survive if transplanted...but not in the womb? Well shesh where?






never heard of one being transplanted anywhere but in the womb.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 7:20:46 PM   
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Sorry, but I am still confused. I get an ectopic pregnancy can survive if transplanted...but not in the womb? Well shesh where?


Here is one example CP. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7427907.stm


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Another story, from 1947. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,886324,00.html

And another.

[Hemorrhagic delivery in a full-term abdominal pregnancy with a live infant].
[Article in French]
Jacob F, Helmer J, Perrier JF, Vedel M, Hauger C.
Abstract
This is a new case report of a primary abdominal pregnancy with a full-term live baby in a 26 yr old women. The diagnosis was only made at laparotomy. The premature placental separation was followed by massive haemorrhage. Over a period of five days, the patient required a transfusion of 139 blood units and nine surgical explorations before control of the bleeding site could be obtained. Control of the haemorrhage could only be obtained with massive transfusions of fresh platelets and biological monitoring of coagulation by specialized laboratories. This case confirmed the diagnostic difficulties and the need to leave the placenta in situ until control of bleeding sites can be obtained.

Yowza....139 blood units....the adult body contains roughly 12 whole blood units, but most units used for transfusion are packed cells...so I imagine she had a combination of both packed cells and plasma, but just wow.

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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 7:27:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		there ya go, :) just goes to show.ovaries of steel, or rather elastic
I cant imagine carrying a full term tho, I was in such horrendous pain and the ectopic was only 4 inches in diameter when they removed it, I know damn well I wouldnt take a chance of one growing normally, personally.


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RE: Ectopic Pregnancy - 8/28/2011 7:36:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		"ectopic" merely means in an abnormal place or position. an ectopic pregnancy can occur in the tubes, the ovaries, the abdominal cavity, even the cervical canal. Around 95% of ectopic pregnancies occur in the tubes.

Prognosis
Ectopic pregnancies are the leading cause of pregnancy-related deaths in the first trimester and account for 9% of all pregnancy-related deaths in the United States. More than 1% of pregnancies are ectopic, and they are becoming more common.

http://health.yahoo.net/galecontent/ectopic-pregnancy/5

Treatment

Ectopic pregnancies cannot continue to birth (term). The developing cells must be removed to save the mother's life.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001897/

An abdominal pregnancy is a form of an ectopic pregnancy where the pregnancy is implanted within the peritoneal cavity outside the fallopian tube or ovary and not located in the broad ligament.[1] While rare, abdominal pregnancies have a higher mortality rate than ectopic pregnancies in general but, on occasion, can lead to a delivery of a viable infant.

About 1% of ectopic pregnancies in the United States are abdominal, or about 10 out of every 100,000 pregnancies.[1] A report from Nigeria places the frequency in that country at 34 per 100,000 deliveries.[2] Risk factors are similar to tubal pregnancy with sexually transmitted disease playing a major role.[3] The maternal mortality rate is estimated to be about 5 per 1,000 cases, about seven times the rate for ectopics in general, and about 90 times the rate for a delivery (US data).[1]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdominal_pregnancy

So, to answer your question... can it? Yes. Is it dangerous? Extremely.

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