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Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 7:55:30 AM

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If a Master tells his ex-sub to go kill herself, can he reasonably demand that he should be able to whip the sub because he is mad about the breakup.

The question is idiotic but serious.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 7:57:59 AM

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If it's an ex sub, why does the person care what the so-called *master* thinks?

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 7:58:26 AM

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 8:03:01 AM

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Why would you submit to any whipping if you're broken up?
Sounds like someone beat the common sense out of whoever would take such a fellow seriously.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 8:19:47 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Johannes

The question is idiotic

I agree.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 8:41:39 AM

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You list yourself as a dominant and a law student. I'm going to assume (I don't know why) that you are not the one who thinks this is appropriate.

In a vanilla relationship, would you think it appropriate that an ex "demand" a blow job after a break up?

Would it be appropriate for a boss to "demand" an employee who was fired or quit to continue working for no pay because the boss hadn't found a replacement?

Yes, it is an idiotic question and an even more idiotic assumption on the part of whoever the so called dominant is. It makes the inaccurate assumption that a submissive doesn't have the right to say no to a dominant and that a dominant has "rights" beyond what a submissive gives them. The right to say no (or in this case, go fuck yourself) on the part of a submissive is never lost, only waived for as long as the submissive chooses to waive it.

On a serious note, it sounds as if this person was an asshole to begin with. Telling someone to go "kill themselves" is wrong. Doing so, and then expecting them to submit to anything (whipping, sex, etc.) reeks of being a self centered, selfish ass hat.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 8:52:07 AM

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But. What if all that was a consequence of that the sub _betrayed_ the Master's trust by meeting another Master without telling him, and then the sub decided to leave the relationship and finally told her Master what she had been doing behind his back. Should the sub go back to her ex-Master for a session to get her punish for it, the punish that she deserves for being deceitful so that the whole thing could get a closure?

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 8:55:00 AM

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Which part of "leave (past tense left) the relationship" is difficult for you to grasp?

Edited for clarity.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 8:57:37 AM

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if she's ex then what the hell does it matter WHAT he says to her????

Personally if my ex told me to do ANYTHING at all I'd laugh so hard first I'd barely be able to breathe and once I recovered I'd tell him to speak to Master.

If the relationship is over why would you go back to the ex dom for anything at all???

Relationship over. Game over. Move on and get over it.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 9:03:02 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Johannes

If a Master tells his ex-sub to go kill herself, can he reasonably demand that he should be able to whip the sub because he is mad about the breakup.

The question is idiotic but serious.

Yea it is idiotic.

Why do ya want still want to have any contact with an ex when you've broken up? Frankly when a relationship ends, it ends: move forward and stop using any excuse to hold onto something which is broken.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 9:03:28 AM

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Oh ffs, just move on, stop fantasizing about it. Go watch a tv show or something.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 9:03:45 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mkma

But. What if all that was a consequence of that the sub _betrayed_ the Master's trust by meeting another Master without telling him, and then the sub decided to leave the relationship and finally told her Master what she had been doing behind his back. Should the sub go back to her ex-Master for a session to get her punish for it, the punish that she deserves for being deceitful so that the whole thing could get a closure?

"Closure" was the decision to meet someone else in the first place.

Doesn't matter what the sub did or whether or not the ex master thinks they should be punished for it. The idea that a sub should go back to the ex for punishment for being deceitful is more idiotic than the request.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 9:12:19 AM

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Something more is going on here than face value. With that in mind, I give the following advice.

To the female sub, enjoy your new life with the Dude you found it necessary to sneak around with.

Ex-master, you go out and find yourself a decent top to give you the beating that you deserve for being involved with such an unfaithful little female. Maybe you'll learn a lesson about picking your partners better if it's beaten into you.

To the new *master* who hasn't shown up on the thread yet, don't be real shocked when history repeats itself.

I'm done here.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 9:32:13 AM

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What she said

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 9:34:20 AM

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But what the sub did was wrong, the ex-Master has every right to be angry... And the right to ask for a compensation? If the sub doesn't compensate and take responsibility of her actions the sub might not have any chance to get back into the BDSM-community because nobody wants an irresponsible sub like that.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 9:38:32 AM

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She was unfaithful and she left, get over it.
You never have the 'right' to whip anyone, it's a privilege you are granted when someone willingly consents to an activity.

You don't have rights, just privileges, and those are taken away whenever you act like a tool. Case in point.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 10:06:37 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mkma

But what the sub did was wrong, the ex-Master has every right to be angry... And the right to ask for a compensation?
If the sub doesn't compensate and take responsibility of her actions the sub might not have any chance to get back
into the BDSM-community because nobody wants an irresponsible sub like that.

Perhaps the sub was morally wrong, but cheated to make up for the lack of mastery in her current relationship.
Should she also have the right to seek compensation from the man that failed to master her?

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 10:12:40 AM

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If you are a law student, why don't you ask your contract law professor this question? That would liven up a dull class and make you popular with your classmates.
Seriously, though, this question is so stupid, it really boggles the mind. Ask for compensation from the sub who betrayed him? How does ten bucks sound?

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ORIGINAL: mkma

But what the sub did was wrong, the ex-Master has every right to be angry... And the right to ask for a compensation? If the sub doesn't compensate and take responsibility of her actions the sub might not have any chance to get back into the BDSM-community because nobody wants an irresponsible sub like that.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 10:22:43 AM

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can he reasonably demand that he should be able to whip the sub because he is mad about the breakup.

Oh yes absolutely. He has every right in the world to "demand" whatever he wants.

All of us have that right. Myself, I demand two BLT sandwiches and a Coke Zero, bring them to me immediately.

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RE: Dominant's rights - 9/12/2011 10:30:54 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mkma

But what the sub did was wrong, the ex-Master has every right to be angry... And the right to ask for a compensation? If the sub doesn't compensate and take responsibility of her actions the sub might not have any chance to get back into the BDSM-community because nobody wants an irresponsible sub like that.

Compensation for what? They spent time together, they both had fun and they both got laid. How come the ex-master has more right to compensation than she does? Maybe the reason she started messing around behind his back is because she felt short-changed to start with.

Secondly, the community might not let her back in? Seriously??? Wow, they do things different in your place! OK, she might get the reputation for being less than steady, but then again the person doing the gossiping is going to get the reputation for being a shit-stirrer.

I would suggest that the ex-Master learn an important lesson from this and make the important step to GROW THE FUCK UP.

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