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ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/23/2006 11:17:12 PM   
ravn


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Greetings my Master, Masters, Mistresses, Free, and fellow kajirae,

As most know, this girl was not allowed in her previous collar to read the books (not entirely sure why, but this one never questioned, it was safer that way, lol). She is however, reading them at the wishes of her current Master and her own desire to read them. This girl is simply asking one thing- is there a way to read John Norman and not tear one's hair out from the repetition?

Be well,
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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/23/2006 11:27:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ravn

Greetings my Master, Masters, Mistresses, Free, and fellow kajirae,

As most know, this girl was not allowed in her previous collar to read the books (not entirely sure why, but this one never questioned, it was safer that way, lol). She is however, reading them at the wishes of her current Master and her own desire to read them. This girl is simply asking one thing- is there a way to read John Norman and not tear one's hair out from the repetition?

Be well,
In service,
ravn


nope, and as you read you will notice that you can take out one complete section in one book and put it in another and it will read the same. John Norman, at lease with his first few books was paid by the word....nuff said.

jezabelKH

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 12:19:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ravn
This girl is simply asking one thing- is there a way to read John Norman and not tear one's hair out from the repetition?

Be well,
In service,
ravn

Greetings, Masters.
Greetings, Mistresses.
Greetings, brothers and sisters of the chain.

ravn,
bina can think of only one way.... obtain your Master's permission to shave your head bald.... you cannot tear out what you do not have.
best of luck in getting through the books.... it is amazingly worth it.

With all respect, and in hopes that this is pleasing to the Free,
bina, of Wolf

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 4:32:33 AM   
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this girl thanks You both for Your input. she sees it is a hopeless case she is dealing with.

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 5:35:22 AM   
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Greetings Masters, Mistresses and slaves,

ravn,

i wish i could tell you a way to do so.  For me, i kind of read 'fast' when it became so repetitive i could not stand it.  Having read all of them, i can assure you that i am far from bald.  *grins*

resepctfully,
christina

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 8:46:39 AM   
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Hello ravn,

this one learned to skip over the repeating sections.You might miss a few things, but you can always go back later.  Make sure you have asprin once you get past book 11. 

They are worth the read, although they are horrifically written.  Oh and if you are going to read 26, make sure you read it SLOWLY, its worse than all the others combined!

Good luck


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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 8:46:39 AM   
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Having read them all, I recommend breaking them up a bit. Read a couple then read something else and then go back to the next couple....cleanse your mental palette as it were.

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 9:02:09 AM   
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It took me this long to realize that jezebelKH is/was Lady Jez of the Lake ... oi ... I'm so blonde sometimes.

Perhaps that blondeness is what helps me to be able to read (and re-read) the Gor books without pulling my hair out. Yeah, its pretty boring reading but if nothing else, think of it as a discipline thing ...

Now, I started out reading them all in order. I guess that works for some people ... But after realizing how much he repeats himself, I just started bouncing around a bit. I've probably read each book at least twice if not three or four times by now. Why? Refresher ... Not being active in Gor doesn't mean I don't want to feel it every so often. I guess not everyone gets it but yeah, thats me.

I'm a strange little duck.

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 9:31:48 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ravn

Greetings my Master, Masters, Mistresses, Free, and fellow kajirae,

As most know, this girl was not allowed in her previous collar to read the books (not entirely sure why, but this one never questioned, it was safer that way, lol). She is however, reading them at the wishes of her current Master and her own desire to read them. This girl is simply asking one thing- is there a way to read John Norman and not tear one's hair out from the repetition?

Be well,
In service,
ravn


Dear Masters, Mistress's, fellow slaves, and ravn,

Sorry hun Your just gonna have to grin and bare it. John Norman was not famous for writing very well. But His intentions was good and well. As they have said before You can take out part of a book and replace it with another and YOu can't tell the difference. But in the end it is worth it to read them all to get the philosphies worthy to remember!!!!!! Just be patient and read!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 10:39:43 AM   
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Tal and greetings
 
I do not think anyone ever compaired John Norman to Shakespear.  Yes I find the books rather simple, the plots thin, and just about everything else.  I find myself knowing what is going to happen in the next chapter before I read it.  But for the most part they do have some importance as to how John Norman see the world.
 
I wish you well
 
Nosathro

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 10:52:02 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: darq

It took me this long to realize that jezebelKH is/was Lady Jez of the Lake ... oi ... I'm so blonde sometimes.


I'm a strange little duck.


darq,

yes the term is was.....i have been captured/branded/collared and i am just simply a slave again.

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 10:53:02 AM   
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They are a hard read...but its nice that every once in a while he throws in a "girl" book and that helps break them up a bit.
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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 10:54:28 AM   
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Tal and greetings
 
I do not think anyone ever compaired John Norman to Shakespear.  I wish you well
 
Nosathro


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yes i would have to agree He is no Shakespear, but now Shakespear that is a subject to discuss. Has anyone ever noticed the D/s or M/s undertones in alot of Shakespears work?

jezabelKH

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 10:56:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ravn

this girl thanks You both for Your input. she sees it is a hopeless case she is dealing with.


ravn,

you are welcome, anytime you have a question feel free to drop me a note, i may not have the answer but will journey down the path with you to find it if i don't.

jezabelKH

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 10:57:49 AM   
jezabelKH


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this one learned to skip over the repeating sections.You might miss a few things, but you can always go back later.  Make sure you have asprin once you get past book 11. 



giggles, asprin? i though you prefered aleve..........but i get your point they can cause quite a headache.

jezabelKH

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/24/2006 11:00:08 AM   
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"bina can think of only one way.... obtain your Master's permission to shave your head bald.... you cannot tear out what you do not have. "



Now that is a great idea, Master Ken actually shaved one of His slaves bald before, but it was as a punishment for being too pridefull but i will have to tell Him about the suggestion during re-reading the books...........smiles.

jezabelKH

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/26/2006 10:12:10 AM   
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greetings ravn....

quote:

ORIGINAL: ravn
Greetings my Master, Masters, Mistresses, Free, and fellow kajirae,

As most know, this girl was not allowed in her previous collar to read the books (not entirely sure why, but this one never questioned, it was safer that way, lol). She is however, reading them at the wishes of her current Master and her own desire to read them. This girl is simply asking one thing- is there a way to read John Norman and not tear one's hair out from the repetition?

Be well,
In service,
ravn


I think the answer to your first question is that your former Master didn't want you to learn anything about what is actually in the books that he didn't tell you which usually means he wanted you to only have misinformation if any accurate information.

To clear up some misinformation. Norman wasn't paid by the word for the first few books or they wouldn't be the shortest books of the series. Yes, to some extent back then authors could be paid by the length of the books but often they were edited to fit the size the publisher wanted to publish and that usually meant being cut to size. All the professional authors I know who have novels published, until they get popular enough to get a contract that lets them out of it as Norman did, get told to cut X number of words, to fit the page count. (Publishing aside: All books have an even number of pages usually divisible by 8, 16, 32 or even 64 depending on the size of the press and how many pages per printed sheet on the press. Publishers don't like blank pages and will cut or pad a book to fit or in some cases put ads for other books in the back to fill out the page count.)

Norman did say the same things many times. This is very true. He reused the same general plot line in several books with different settings perhaps too many times tho that changes by the last half of the series. When you read the books out of order I have found it is worse than reading them in order. I recently finished all 26 in order and without the interruption of other books. Oddly enough, the very same writing I had been complaining about read better this way and I could see the plot progression through all the books. It really is all one big story line with several diversions along the way. I know the writing didn't change over the decades I have been reading the books. It still read smoother and the story line flowed even with the repetitions and the repetitions were not as noticeable.

So...my advice is read them once, preferably in order, for the story line and then read them again, definitely in order, for the information and content within the books that is not the superficial story. Just keep going and it will get easier. Even the slow part of Witness from about page 50 to 150/200 read faster this time and I had real problems getting through that section the first time I read the book. Just keep going. It is worth it.

be well....

Malkinius


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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/28/2006 12:40:21 PM   
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For me, the attraction to Gor is the ideal.

From there, as a writer and a literature professor, John Norman is definitely not a "must read."

Yes, to read one is to get the general idea, repeatedly endlessly. And even to read one is to experience plot manipulation at its most dreadful.

Sorry folks--but these are light, quick reads for me--the mediocre "sit-coms" of literature.

Tim

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RE: ahh! ::tears hair out:: - 5/28/2006 2:11:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ravn

Greetings my Master, Masters, Mistresses, Free, and fellow kajirae,

As most know, this girl was not allowed in her previous collar to read the books (not entirely sure why, but this one never questioned, it was safer that way, lol). She is however, reading them at the wishes of her current Master and her own desire to read them. This girl is simply asking one thing- is there a way to read John Norman and not tear one's hair out from the repetition?


Made it thru a whole book yet? hang in there you can do it!

jezabelKH

Be well,
In service,
ravn

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