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ORIGINAL: SixMore2Go
Well, before I am removed from these forums, I am of a mind to have me say in regards to things Gorean.
A few quick comments before I align myself with the actual topic, if anyone finds themselves troubled by my modest derailment, please accept my apology in advance, or fuck off, your choice.
First off. Have we met? You are … eerily familiar......................Nah, if you were someone I once knew I’d surely be more impressed by now.
Next off, why would they remove you from these forums? You’re quite comical; and that isn’t a reference to your general commentary, but rather your excessively abhorrent and ill-mannered behavior. And save me the dramtic "who me? I'm so misunderstood"nonsense.
I’m not completely sure, but I’d wager to surmise that it’s only you that is actually bamboozled by your attempt to disguise your boorish demeanor behind this grandiloquent façade. You try to hard to come off as elegant and eloquent; in turn it doesn’t come off as all that natural coming from youand the character you project; I suspect that is why your supporters appear to be out numbered, incalculable to one.
Concurrently, you tend to disregard the talking points and specific comments made by others that often enough, quite accurately rebuke your own observations, not to mention your callous dismissal of the increasing number from interpretations of those individuals that don’t advance your specific cyber quarrels. So in that you appear to the masses as little more than a despondent and forlorn attention whore. But my experience with you personally is limited so I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
But, let’s move on to the crux of this little thread of yours. Shall we?
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It is my belief that the vast majority of those who profess to be Gorean have in fact completely missed the central tenets of the philosophy of Gor.
Agreed! In fact I’d place both you and I within those parameters. To proclaim that anyone, including Norman himself has a complete and comprehensive understanding of any would be “Gorean” Philosophy would be preposterous. At best the Gorean Philosophy is still within the confines of it’s infancy. And I am personally of the opinion that to take undue stock in the words of anyone claiming some sense of superior enlightenment with regards to said philosophy is illogical and counterproductive.
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It has naught to do with appearances, nor with any role. It is not about how you appear to others, it is about how you appear to yourself.
Yeah, you see right here you aren’t prequalifying your comments as your own opinion, but rather stating yourself as though a foremost authority on a subject that, in fact, is yet to be put to test by minds much more accomplished than most witnessed on any cyber arena I’ve traversed.
So utilizing my own criteria mentioned above I’m afraid you’re philosophic audience is destined to perpetual contraction.
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It has naught to do with being a warrior nor a master nor a slave. The philosophy of Gor has naught to do with external details, it is concerned solely with what is within a person. The fixation on being a Master or warrior is a misguided one, it comes from having confused the milieu and the message. I know submissive men who are far truer Goreans than many a self-proclaimed Master. It is not about Masters and slaves, it is not about men over women, it is not about free and not free. Those things are only the trappings of the tale that was employed to impart the message.
So basically this philosophy is little more than an anatomy lesson of the human form.
Or are you implying it is little more than some old professors arduously conceived contemplation within some random state of metaphysics that has everything to do, with ……………… nothing?
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It is your nature that matters, not some amorphous "nature" nor that of another. The rules to which you must conform are your own; the expectations that you must meet are your own.
I’m curious…. Have you ever or do you currently partake in the delight of cannabis sativa? I'm assuming your an Irish Catholic kid and speak a wee bit of Latin.
While I must concur that it is our “nature” that is a primary focus of the Gorean Philosophy, I’m of a mind that it is the overall, and in depth, understanding of our nature, both individually and collectively, as well as all that this entails within the basic premise of this philosophy; so it may not be quite as simple as you would seem to imply. To suggest that it is simply an individualistic pursuit that would drive a man, or a woman for that matter, ignores to a greater degree, at least half of the human equation. The entirety of our humanity is what our personal nature is derived from. Therefore it seems to me that the personal, social and survival aspects of our nature is not idiosyncratic. The fact is it is our differences, and to be more precisely our individually specialized skill sets that in turn makes us more dependent upon one another then many care to admit; thereby cancelling out your intention that we live solely “to the beat of our own drum”, no matter whether your reference is to the male to female quandary or to our very relevant pack mentality we possess. We cannot, no, we will not survive or be answerable soley to ourselves as individuals. To imply as much quite possibly means you’re missing a few chapters within your Gorean Library. IMHO
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The philosophy of Gor is very simple, it has but three pillars.
Three pillars you say? Have you been reading old threads here or moonlighting over on Silk and Steel?
I personally love the stone pillars on the Old Georgian Mansions, you know those imposing white columns on the master’s home of those Southern Yankee Slave Plantations. 
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1. Be true to yourself.
2. Live in accordance with your nature.
3. Do what you do with all that you are.
Shall we summarize?
“Do not ask the stones or the trees how to live, they cannot tell you; they do not have tongues; do not ask the wise man how to live, for if he knows, he will know he cannot tell you; if you would learn how to live, do not ask the question; its answer is not in the question, but in the answer, which is not in words; do not ask how to live, but, instead, proceed to do so.”
For most, the above makes as much sense as your three pillar comment.
But I’ll ask you.
How can one be true to oneself if one has no comprehension of oneself or the meaning of true.
Or our nature, you say to live in accordance with as much. What, mind you, is our nature? Is your nature a mirror to my own? Would a woman granted equality by a man made law then maintain a nature much the same as mine? Or yours? Or is she also a soulless capitalist?
Finally how do I do all that I do with all that I am? Who will care and to what end?
If I have to answer to no one but myself, what will I base my success or failure upon? How do I know I’m getting it right?
What is right? Will it matter. What was it again that we are here for?
Shit……… This was supposed to simple……
Alright, I suppose I should surrender my decoder ring…..
Ahhhhh, fuck it; come take it if you will… I too possess a sword, perhaps limits must be set today…
Happy Saint Patrick’s Day to ya lad! A pint of Genius if you will!
Wait it’s Thanksgiving, oh well, happy that too.
And now I feel as dirty as the rest of you.
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Live well,
Bull
I'm not an asshole; I'm simply resolute...
"A Republic, If You Can Keep It."
Caution: My humor is a bit skewed.
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