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ORIGINAL: Arturas
Yup. Because I wanted to drive. I choose to drive therefore I must pay what it takes to do so.
With Obamacare I must pay even if I do not have the money or do not want health insurance or do not want health care.
And where does it state in the Affordable Care Act that if you dont have money, you must still pay for health insurance? I want the exact page(s) that state this. Its ONLY a 2409 page document; I'm sure you'll find it quickly for me.
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ORIGINAL: Arturas
We clear on the dramatic difference yet? Here is it again: Free person chooses. Un-free person must. Constitution keeps us free. Obamacare removes freedom. Therefore, Obamacare un-Constitutional.
Lets back up. In 2008, we had this thing called a 'National Election' were we ELECTED people to the White House and Congress (House & Senate). Every state/commonwealth got to vote (and they did). Those ELECTED OFFICALS, than debated (for 14 months) on a bill entilted 'The Affordable Care Act" before voting on it. The bill pass and became law. You had a chance to vote, if you failed to do that, dont bitch to anyone.....you had your chance and failed. Since the law went through the entire progress for how bills become law, its NOT un-constitutional. Your stating that since your a free person, you should have been given the option to decide on this; Did you run for office....no? Then thats to bad for you. Please state in exact terms what freedom you have lost, due to the ACA? Did you enjoy your preexisting condition so much that you desired to remain without proper health care and suffer for it?
Most Americans are either happy with the ACA or want it improved on (2:1 verse those that dont like it).
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ORIGINAL: Arturas
Simple. This is why it will be a slam dunk. THis is why Obama must attack the Supreme Court who he oviously knows have made a decision the mandate is un-Constitutional, because he knows this failure will destroy him and he will go down in the history books as the President who was a Constitutional law professor who also spent two years enacting an un-Constitutional law and then tried to intimidate the Supreme Court with no success and then lost the election in November by a landslide, because who wants to vote for an obvious incompetent and a loser?
Lets start this off correctly. Dude, that's one MASSIVE run-on-sentence you have there. Are you being so taxed from the ACA that you can't afford a few ".'"s and capital letters?
Mr. Obama is pointing out that several members of the US Supreme Court hold a bias AGAINST the ACA even before opening arguements were heard (their suppose to be unbias BEFORE the arguements). Hence the whole part of the 'Judical Activism' comment that state the high court would wish to push for a political idealogy that has nothing to do with the rule of law and everything to do with making more Americans suffer. Even if the justices come back and declare the whole thing un-constutitional, it'll only be a brief bump in things. Most Americans are finding as time wears on and ACTUALLY READS THE BILL, just what they are going to lose. Have you actually read the bill from cover to cover, Arturas? Or has your entire viewpoint been spoon fed to you, because people did not think your intelligent nor wise enough to study the bill yourself?
I believe your going to be sadly disappointed this November, as the President will do much better than you think, In fact, Congress will see more blue seats and less red in the hallways. If the bill is uncosntitution, they'll just push through ANOTHER Health Care bill in the first year, and simply become wiser to how the bias US Supreme Court melts out decisions. The second one will be....MUCH...better. 
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