Anaxagoras
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Once again you misrepresent basic points. What basic points have I misrepresented? I have only asked you to validate your opinion that between 1 and 2 million afghanis were murdered by the russians from 1979-88. So far all you have given me is your opinion and the opinion of those with whom you agree. I have repeatedly validated the assertion I made by providing numerous sources of repute. Due to your typical dishonesty, you misrepresent the difficulty of those sources in providing absolute figures as mere OPINION despite not having any proof that it is so. Previously on this thread you did the same immediately with a Russian journalist, without bothering to find out how vlaid those claims were. quote:
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I wonder is it down to some sort of cognitive dissonance (cf. Hippiekinkster) or a cognitive disability? Ahh a puerile attempt at character assassination. Purile? From the "individual" who liberally attacks any other view as asinine, and who regularly trolls others on here with prolific attacks that derail threads. quote:
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I am going by the figures of respected sources based on studies and estimates as there was no census since 1979 and that 15 million figure it produced was in fact only partial. Paritial or not it is a baseline from which we may make certain observations. And thus far you have made no "observations" other than state the population figures do not support the claim, despite the fact the overall population figures are uncertain. quote:
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People can only go by the studies and estimates of those with expertise in this area Those with expertise in the area seem to believe that there were about 15 million afghanis in 1979. There are none with expertise in the area that seem to have a clue as to the population of afghanistan in 1988. Yet here you are stating the population figures do not support the death of 1 to 2 million people. You have been caught out in a lie. There were very much more than 15 million in Afghanistan in 1979. quote:
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- it has nothing to do with my own beliefs. I stated them not thinking there would be any controversy, and you remonstrated. You stated numbers that you had not bothered to validate. You stated numbers which were reported in newspapers with no validation. This does not pass for scholarship. I have validated them repeatedly from many sources of repute. I have asked you repeatedly to validate your counter assertions repeatedly and you have not done so. quote:
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It is you who choose the lowest possible figures whilst disputing the more commonly cited figures because you PREFER not to. I chose to point out the vast divergence in the estimates. From 670 k to 2+ million is some four orders of magnitude. No you didn't. You choose the very lowest figure from one fairly weak source (the LA Times) over a larger number of other sources of greater repute. quote:
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Virtually all sources of repute state more than 1+ million Afghans died, and attest to the extraordinary level of suffering http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1122273/ which you seek to diminish, just as you contested the vast numbers that Stalin killed a while ago. Which you were also unable to validate Again I validated them by citing sources of repute. quote:
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Seems you're an apologist for anti-Western regimes no matter how tyrannical they are. Pointing out your ignorance of historical data does not make me an apologist for anything. It most certainly does. You have continually sought to minimise the horrors of the Soviet regime on here. No one will be fooled by your counter-assertion.
< Message edited by Anaxagoras -- 4/18/2012 5:41:21 AM >
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