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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/16/2012 9:40:53 PM

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Any ideas what to do?

Have intercourse or masturbate.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/16/2012 9:53:53 PM

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Any ideas what to do?

Have intercourse or masturbate.

In case you don't mind a polite request: Drop dead!

<slaps forehead> I knew it was a mistake taking people of the ignore list....Oh well, I live and learn

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/16/2012 11:39:58 PM

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Pff. Try to help someone to sleep and they turn excessively rude.

I guess it must be her lack of sleep...

Well, that is it from me: do not knock on my door for any help any more. You will not get any.

I do not appreciate rude people. I am putting you on Hide.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 6:31:37 AM

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I'm so glad I have him on ignore lol
Now I know he'll stay there permanently lol

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 6:51:40 AM

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Poor sleep is a bitch.

Too much exercise before bed can keep you from sleeping. How much caffeine are you taking in? Cigarettes? Nicotine is a stimulant. Other stimulants?

Benedryl makes most people very drowsy. So do valerian capsules. I would try both of those (forget valerian tea, it tastes like old socks.)

Oh, could you be entering perimenopause? Insomnia is probably the number one indicator.

How is your sleep hygiene? Do you go to bed at the same time? Sleep in the dark? Turn the PC off, if it's in the room? Have a consistent bed time ritual? All these things help. If you have/done all that, then stop forcing yourself to sleep, and just lie there and rest as best you can.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 7:01:57 AM

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havent read the other responses.. but if i recall, your friend lives in CA.. it gets hot there.. right now i am in FL and its hot and humid, a double whammy.. i have been having a bitch of a time getting a good sleep and some mornings and days getting headaches (which i rarely get).. and its cuz of the heat and not being used to it, getting dehydrated even tho i do drink a lot of water.. so perhaps you are too hot and getting a bit deydrated.. putting the a/c on or set lower if possible, fans maybe with a wet cloth over them to simulate an evaporative cooler? ice packs or cold cloths on your forehead or body.. being too hot day and night & getting slightly dehydrated wears a person down, more than people think, imo..

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 7:52:03 AM

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lw,

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20397457

I am assuming you have had a sleep study?

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 8:12:12 AM

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Poor sleep is a bitch.

Too much exercise before bed can keep you from sleeping. How much caffeine are you taking in? Cigarettes? Nicotine is a stimulant. Other stimulants?

Benedryl makes most people very drowsy. So do valerian capsules. I would try both of those (forget valerian tea, it tastes like old socks.)

Oh, could you be entering perimenopause? Insomnia is probably the number one indicator.

How is your sleep hygiene? Do you go to bed at the same time? Sleep in the dark? Turn the PC off, if it's in the room? Have a consistent bed time ritual? All these things help. If you have/done all that, then stop forcing yourself to sleep, and just lie there and rest as best you can.

Lots of good advice here, and just wanted to say that when I've had the occasional bout of sleeplessness it has generally been due to one of the above that ChatteParfait mentions.

I also think perimenopause is one of those things that women forget can start as much as 10 years before you hit menopause, and while the average age of onset of menopause is around 50, the typical range is anywhere from around 40 to 60. And again, peri can start up to 10 years earlier, so women could be experiencing peri anywhere from 30 to 50 depending on their personal time table for menopause. I only point this out because sometimes women in their 30s think that they cannot possibly be old enough to be experiencing peri, when, in fact, statistically, they are. (LadyConstanze, not suggesting you are in peri, but just wanted to make this point).

Also, LadyConstanze, you are a good friend to be taking care of him. It is a stressful situation, even if you don't mentally perceive it as stress, your body still does, and that can disrupt things. I do also want to echo DesFIP's comment about burnout. Is there anything you can do in the short term, while still providing your friend with appropriate care, to recharge your batteries? I know sometimes when I get burned out it affects my sleep, and just being able to step away from the regular routine for a bit seems to press the reset button. It is almost as if the poor sleep becomes a bad habit that one needs to "shake" oneself out of, if you know what I mean.

I hope your friend recovers soon and, in the meantime, that you are able to catch some zzzzzzz......sweet dreams...

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 9:58:58 AM

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I have a sleep disorder, but it's separate from the insomnia (sleep study was helpful!). I havent tried the valerian, that's on the list. I find that sleep meds make me jittery, then when I do fall asleep I cant wake up properly. Xanax is a far as I can go.

If you feel sleepy, and you have the chance, sleep.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 10:23:26 AM

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Pff. Try to help someone to sleep and they turn excessively rude.

I guess it must be her lack of sleep...

Well, that is it from me: do not knock on my door for any help any more. You will not get any.

I do not appreciate rude people. I am putting you on Hide.

You can't seriously think telling someone who is away from their partner to "have intercourse" as being helpfull?

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 11:14:34 AM

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Blah...having him on ignore doesn't do me any good guys if you quote his posts.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 2:56:27 PM

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You can't seriously think telling someone who is away from their partner to "have intercourse" as being helpfull?

I responded to the opening post. I do not know whether it said anything about being away from her partner. I do seem to recall to have read something about that, but I cannot recall whether I responded before or after that. In any case I offered the alternative of masturbation. It was a generic response; she seemed to have tried most other alternatives.

From her ungrateful rudeness I conclude that she lacks nobility of soul.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 5:22:01 PM

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From her ungrateful rudeness I conclude that she lacks nobility of soul.

Mmmmmm yes because people that leave their homes to go and care for a friend with a serious heart condition are like that right?

You cannot seriously have thought that a sexually inappropriate suggestion would be welcomed?

If you went to someone in a munch or club that was discussing having stress and worry related sleep issues and suggested they masturbate or have sex I think the response would be MUCH harsher..

Why on earth do people feel it acceptable to say things on the net that they would know were not appropriate in face to face conversation.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 5:40:28 PM

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She had a problem falling asleep. I named a means that usually is very effective that she had not mentioned. Take it or leave it. If you have got complaints, write Santa Claus or whomever. I have no interest in your sanctimonious responses.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 5:53:43 PM

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I have to take sleeping pills to STAY asleep. I fall asleep quite easily - but I usually wake up after 3 hours and its a shot in the dark whether or not I'll be able to get back to sleep or not. Even if I do - my sleep has been broken up and lots of times I wake up more tired than I ever should be.

I have adderall to keep me up and sleeping pills to keep me down. I fucking swear Im going to end up crazy like Judy Garland did.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 8:24:55 PM

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I stay asleep once I get there, thank goodness.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 8:39:17 PM

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Why on earth do people feel it acceptable to say things on the net that they would know were not appropriate in face to face conversation.

Detachment and/or sociopathic tendencies? Well, they seem plausible. Frosty the Snowman was a sociopath, and a masochist to boot.

OP: It doesn't sound physical, it sounds mental. If it is, you should try new relaxation techniques. (The ones you've tried - i.e. when you mentioned meditation and CDs don't seem to be working.)

I hope everything works out for you.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 10:04:22 PM

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Hi Lady C-

I've suffered from insomnia for about 5 years now--it started during the divorce and my body just got acclimated to it.

I know (as you do) that nutrition and exercise certainly help, but I found that for the "brain chatter" that I can't turn off, I had to find ways to "wind down" I had read a study on blue light and sleep disorders, so 1 hour before bedtime, I turn off the TV and computer. (yes, I know, I'm on the computer right now. the irony isn't lost on me.

Next, I make sure that my blackberry, cell phone, web book...even my alarm clock--are all either face down or faced away from me. Apparently even the blinking "charging" lights can disrupt light sleepers. I put on warm, low lighting the bedroom while I get ready for bed, and for me, if the bedroom is clean and uncluttered, I find it helps.

If I read at all, I select a book that I've read many times, and one that won't entice me to try to read the whole thing. If I put on soft music, I try to go with light jazz or classical--something without lyrics and not too upbeat.
In the winter--a warm shower and I pre-heat the bed with a heating pad. in the summer, a cool shower (but not too cold--wakes you up!) and crisp sheets.

good luck--insomnia sucks. hope you find what works for you!--
Probably should have said it first, but I'd suggest ruling out any medical causes for the insomnia--I've been meaning to get to a sleep center myself...

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 10:44:38 PM

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Lady C,

Some tips from a sometimes manic person...

Warm baths help to quiet the mind and relax the body.

One hour before bed, stop as much stimuli as possible--TV, computer, music, even reading (reading even a county budget will keep me up all night when I'm manic). Such stimuli will keep the mind active for many people. I, for one, could never understand how anybody could read right before bed or fall asleep watching TV.

Nap whenever possible if you need to. If your friend takes a nap, you take a nap. (It is the same advice most new mothers will get).

Rather than lay awake worrying about your friend have you thought about a monitor (like a baby monitor) that can alert you if he needs help?

Check into the possibility of an agency offering respite services, even an hour or two a week so that you can get some "me" time. I know how valuable such services can be because I am a respite worker for a 13 year old boy who is autistic. His family is somewhat dysfunctional and he comes to my house 1 weekend a month to rest and relax and get away from the confusion. His case workers are always amazed that I report he is well behaved and well mannered when he visits.

Being overtired will sometimes continue to disrupt your sleep, so be careful. I've been known to go for weeks on a few hours a night and then crash and sleep for 12-14 hours. We do the people we care the most about no good if we put our own health at risk by not getting enough rest ourselves.

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RE: Not being able to sleep - 5/17/2012 11:24:17 PM

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You can't seriously think telling someone who is away from their partner to "have intercourse" as being helpfull?

I responded to the opening post. I do not know whether it said anything about being away from her partner. I do seem to recall to have read something about that, but I cannot recall whether I responded before or after that. In any case I offered the alternative of masturbation. It was a generic response; she seemed to have tried most other alternatives.

From her ungrateful rudeness I conclude that she lacks nobility of soul.

From your remarks I gather you're still lacking a brain.

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