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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 1:49:11 AM

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Yup, as it stands free energy would not be a good thing anyway. The only thing preventing complete destruction is the fact that it costs money.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 2:52:36 AM

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OMG a fucking Nazi!! I bet he used a 120,000 volt generator to make lightning and exterminate Jews! You can see the pictures of the death camp in that wiki link.

I simply could not resist throwing polite a bone, he is starving after cleaning all the shit off his face.

One of Steinmetz's great research projects was centered with the phenomena of lightning. He undertook a systematic study of it, resulting in experiments of man-made lightning in the laboratory; this work was published. Steinmetz was called the "forger of thunderbolts," being the first to create artificial lightning in his GE football field-sized laboratory and high towers, using 120,000 volt generators. He erected a lightning tower to attract lightning and studied the patterns and effects of lightning hits on tree bark and in a broken mirror—resulting in several theories and ideas (like the effect of lightning on plant growth and A/C electric poles).

yep GE

so a lightning tower isnt so sci fi after all LOL

You post some bullshit, Steinmetz was never a nazi having left Germany in the 1880s.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 4:08:14 AM

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since Bush was responsible for Katrina, Obama responsible for Issac.

If that's really where you want to go, contrast Bush's political appointees who were not up to the job and couldn't do their job (the only bright spot in that mess was two smart and independent Coast Guard thinkers) with Obama's readiness and preparation.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 8:48:17 AM

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since Bush was responsible for Katrina, Obama responsible for Issac.

If that's really where you want to go, contrast Bush's political appointees who were not up to the job and couldn't do their job (the only bright spot in that mess was two smart and independent Coast Guard thinkers) with Obama's readiness and preparation.

lets not forget negligence and breach of fiduciary duty and breach of trust.

of course both sides of the isle write all that shit off as "stupid" [insert gubafia actor here].

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 8:57:09 AM

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well I am talking about these transmitters and as I have posted earlier the guy with the sec for instance who proves your point, but even with that it can be isolated by a low z output so the change in resonance would be minimal. Should email that guy but it looked to me like he continually retuned it. I will have to watch again.

If it's tuned when connected to the earth, and the transmission is through the earth, then the input shouldn't go down when a load is connected. If anything it should go up, because you don't want to be wasting full power on nothing, but you do want it to supply the power when there is a demand. By having the scope connected on the "ground" wire between the coils he's affecting the resonance. What he should do is put a signal generator on the transmitter primary and tune it through the scope probe with a pickup near the top of the coil or a microamp meter, simple resonance finding technique. Then that's tuned to the correct frequency, the same can be done on the receiver or the scope connected to the receiver two turn "primary", which should be receiving the oscillations. Connecting things into the circuit is never a good idea here because it can totally throw things off. Even walking within 2 metres of the coil I can see changes in the readings when taking measurements. He seems to have been listening to Eric for the construction of his coils but I think he made those videos before Eric got a lot deeper into it in the last few months.

We know that the input power goes down when these devices go into resonance. That said if the device is in fact resonating with the earth then why would we expect a different result?

Yes if your device is high Z that will happen when you come into the field.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 10:04:27 AM

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No, I am referring to Meyl, who is the one referred to by Real0ne. In referring to him, I am pointing out that what he has made and sold is a piece of perfectly ordinary hardware that fails to demonstrate any new effects, including the ones Meyl claims it to show. If he wants to make something to demonstrate a new effect, he has to actually do so. Instead, he demonstrated something quite familiar and supremely uninteresting which does not scale. If he wants to address the scaling problem, he has to show that, rather than ignoring the fact that his previous claims regarding his devices have been debunked.

Meyl may have something. But he hasn't shown it to me, and he has shown me a lie. That's a pretty poor start as convincing goes.

Hence, I'm asking Real0ne to find something more convincing than that man's words.

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Oh so then you own one of meyls devices?

Of course it does not demonstrate anything NEW since this is after all 100 year old technology.

Is that like a veiled joke.... ok haha....

Oh there it is that magic word! DEBUNKED!

well ENOUGH SAID that settles the matter case closed aswold said its debunked.

Always the famous last words of an expert!

Fuck that, you think you got what it takes debunk it, starting with the challenges of my last post and once again with the scale crap and validate the use of the term lie.

oh and good luck with that approach!

I didnt think so.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 10:34:15 AM

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Now I though you were serious.[...]Oh and you wantme to personally give you a show? What for? You got plenty of cash you need to unload I presume?

If it had demonstrated something not explained by previously established physics, I would've been ready to unload plenty of cash. You're making claims, and calling people idiots for not going with those claims, which means some strong evidence is called for. I've said I'm willing to provide independent verification of your claims, if and only if, you put your good name on the line. Instead, you're going ballistic and attacking me. I will not stand for that. If you want me to check anything out, to vet it for you, then you're going to have to cover it yourself from now on.

In case you don't get it, I was offering something you can't get on your own: credibility.

Let me know if you change your mind.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 12:12:01 PM

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since Bush was responsible for Katrina, Obama responsible for Issac.

If that's really where you want to go, contrast Bush's political appointees who were not up to the job and couldn't do their job (the only bright spot in that mess was two smart and independent Coast Guard thinkers) with Obama's readiness and preparation.

It is the readiness and preparation of the new mayor that has made the difference. FEMA does not evacuate and isnt a first responder. The Katrina nonsense was just part of the 6 or more years of BDS.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 3:12:33 PM

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If it had demonstrated something not explained by previously established physics

Does this count?

Reception of AM radio without antenna, signal is received via the earth. Underground signal arrives AHEAD of overground signal. Velocity of Telluric wave is therefore experimentally confirmed to be greater than the Hertzian wave velocity, as proposed by Tesla a long time ago.

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In more advanced experiments, Hertz measured the velocity of electromagnetic radiation and found it to be the same as the light’s velocity.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 3:18:57 PM

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Has anyone seen what Opec is doing with all the money we are giving them ? I love the new malls with the ice rink in the middle of the dessert . All the new hotels they are building on barrier reefs is cool . So since they have all this money let them start sending it out to help the world and we keep ours here at home to help pay for more gas .

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 3:28:44 PM

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there ya go ONE WIRE ELECTRICITY!

and all the wire is doing is taking the place of the earth for demonstration purposes

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Has anyone seen what Opec is doing with all the money we are giving them ? I love the new malls with the ice rink in the middle of the dessert . All the new hotels they are building on barrier reefs is cool . So since they have all this money let them start sending it out to help the world and we keep ours here at home to help pay for more gas .

are you kidding at 5 bucks per barrel?

Has anyone seen what wall street is doing?

With this kind of technology around why are we pissing away money on fossil feuls?

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 3:44:50 PM

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Now I though you were serious.[...]Oh and you wantme to personally give you a show? What for? You got plenty of cash you need to unload I presume?

If it had demonstrated something not explained by previously established physics, I would've been ready to unload plenty of cash. You're making claims, and calling people idiots for not going with those claims, which means some strong evidence is called for. I've said I'm willing to provide independent verification of your claims, if and only if, you put your good name on the line. Instead, you're going ballistic and attacking me. I will not stand for that. If you want me to check anything out, to vet it for you, then you're going to have to cover it yourself from now on.

In case you don't get it, I was offering something you can't get on your own: credibility.

Let me know if you change your mind.

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Oh and you are da man eh? HAvent done anything but stand on a soap box so far screaming debunked, the famous last words of titanic experts.

What is explained and what are the elements of your unstated explained?

What is established and what are the elements again of your unstated established whatever?

Independent verification? By WHom? Standard oil? JP Morgan? I know MIT! LMAO We already know their determination dunt we. No need to waste your money. This is for the people who are missing out because they let greedy asswipes rule what they get to have, not to beg approval of the same fucktards who directed interest in every other possible direction.

Well we need this shit now.

Going ballistic? HUH? You ok? I am laughing my ass off because you and I both know you cant talk to the matter. The only person so far is drgreen. Vet it? Damn you mean someone was covering it for me that I was unaware of? I dont believe for one second you want or are capable of vetting anything. Prove it.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 4:04:57 PM

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Independent verification? By WHom? Standard oil? JP Morgan? I know MIT! LMAO We already know their determination dunt we. No need to waste your money.

That doesn't matter at this stage anyway, an optimised system hasn't been developed yet. When all is done independent verification will be irrelevant in this sense, they will have a lot more than that to think about. It's better that they think it's a waste of time for now, it keeps them out of the way.

[edit] MIT and what not I mean. In reality it has already been independently verified, that's what the "replications" are. Tesla claimed and demonstrated the effects, others have reproduced the effects. Therefore it's verified.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 4:13:18 PM

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Wouldnt it be nice to drive around in cars that needed no gas? no battery? power from the grid or a private source?

Well guess what, it was all possible since 1899 and those entrusted to govern in our best interest and benefit did what they do best. They governed for the best interest and benefit of themselves and their banker pals.

I came out here several years ago and posted this "stuff" and all the kooks called me every pejorative under the sun screaming the tesla tower does not work. You know who you are, some are still here. Lack of knowledge is the gift that keeps biting ya in the ass! :)

MIT and the DOE cant seem to make it happen, so I guess we just have to leave it up to kids in their basements and garages to prove it works.

Thats right this guy is lighting 15 and 25 watt 240 volt bulbs while holding them in his hand with electrical power being transmitted wireless similar to a a typical radio signal, the electricity goes right through his body and still lights the bulb, just like tesla did and without getting a shock.

Now this can be transmitted to ANYWHERE on the planet. NOT like our present day couple mile radio waves.

It works underwater with bare wires and your hands in the water and if your baby sticks the car keys in the outlet NOTHING will happen. Worst case if ANYTHING does happen would be a static carpet like shock that just gives a pin prick like bite, NOT like the current we use now that if your kid does that will cause their muscles to contract harder around the wires and kill them.

This new system of wireless power was created by the very same man that created the system used around the world today and this new system of wireless power was intended to replace the old system we have now. That was in 1899.

Think its time or should we wait another 100 years?

Check this out if you want to be pissed off.

Light, The Tesla Way-01 - TMT 72.4 Scale

Look mom I am touching the wires and no shock!

Now as an added bonus due to the nature of this device, it attracts and converts lets just say stuff from the cosmos and one professor in Germany measured as much as 1000% gain at the output.

So why havent our politicians been doing anything along these lines over the last 100 years?

Is it time?

I Loooove high gas prices.

It makes people buy better cars.

(Love it).

$27.00 a gallon....I'm in.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 9:09:25 PM

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let me guess you do car sales or manufacture etc lol

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 9:20:51 PM

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Ok I hate to be a stick in the mud, but on this one gave it a bit of thought and couple things that are imperative. First in order to set up a test that is absolutely conclusive you would need to make some kind of arrangement with the station to play say a 1/10th second burst of 20khz or whatever the top of their audio bandwidth is. You would need to have you equipment set up and ready to trigger on it.

Prior to doing that you would need to either determine any phase delays between the air receiver and the earth receiver so at a minimum they are known and you can properly adjust for the any inherent lag or lead.

know what I mean?

nice 1 wire pics man! Sort of totally fucks up amperes law! Not really but its not conventional and no one here can explain it!

Thats an experiment the kids can do at home. tape a piece of aluminum foil put it beside an incandescent bulb and it will NOT attract it like a magnet. When you light the same bulb with tesla technology it attracts aluminum foil as you showed in your video.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 9:26:21 PM

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Does this count?

What are you claiming?

The first pictures appear to show ordinary wireless excitation, of the sort you can do with a cheap USB toy plasma globe (see pic). We do that in the semiconductor industry, laser technology, plasma and RF work, and so forth. The last picture shows the expected time delay for multipath propagation of a noisy 1MHz signal, and with no anomalous effects. Distortion is expected, as is the difference in behavior with frequency (a function of the properties of the material itself, which are dependent on wavelength, hence dispersion).

If you clarify what you meant to claim by those pics, it will be easier to address whether you've shown anything.

Looks to be screen caps from the same videos, btw.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 9:37:12 PM

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that pic you put up is trash because it shows nothing but something unknown glowing.

what do you think is powering those plasma balls?

Thats right a tesla coil LMAO

and they are lighting gas NOT TUNGSTEN

that orange thing you are showing is also a gas NOT tungsten.

You do huh? well lets see your one wire circuits using laser and rf technology that LIGHTS TUNGSTEN and that you can hold onto without getting sit square on your ass! LMAO

He told you what the waveform is, pay attention, you are wrong again.

So far like everyone esle you impassed all my challenges and you are batting zero for zero in your response to his post too.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 9:48:26 PM

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HAvent done anything but stand on a soap box so far screaming debunked, the famous last words of titanic experts.

I haven't made any claims. You have. The soap box is yours, as is the screaming. I've been perfectly civil.

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What is explained and what are the elements of your unstated explained?

The operation of the demo kit by Meyl, which he claims to demonstrate unconventional physics, has been shown to be accounted for by conventional physics. It does what we already knew how to do. It does not show anything we haven't already seen. This is something that has been checked out by German investigators, among others, and if you choose to read the German articles on this guy (all available from several different sources, including the university where he works), then you might see him somewhat differently.

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Independent verification? By WHom?

Let's start with me. Then we can move on to the most advanced individually owned lab in the field. Then the serious labs. If you can deliver, I can get it out there and make you rich in the process. If not, you will be left broke, and looking like a fool. Either-or, and all depending on you. So, how much faith do you have in this idea? Enough to have a real stake in it?

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No need to waste your money.

Unless it works, my money isn't going anywhere near this. I'll screen things for people who know my word is good, s'all.

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Going ballistic? HUH? You ok?

Let's just say you're not being particularly civil at the moment, and that I'm expressly requiring the next reply to me from you to be polite or nonexistent. Period.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 8/30/2012 9:52:55 PM

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Green, I would appreciate a spectrogram of the bulb in your photos...

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