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Sicko's - 6/8/2006 11:47:47 AM

SilentHunter

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I spoken to alot of subs and slaves, and to nilla's who have looked into dominantion and submissiion, and somewhat into gor, most of the websites that they have looked into see the humiliation, degredation and general bad shit that happens, I have wrote stories, (usually for other people, when they give me a general overview) and they have some of the stuff in there, but why oh why do they see us all as wife batterers, sheesh lol I went to play mahjong and pyramids and ended up having to close the chat windows when idiots read my profile, and say that i am a wife batterer. I don't hit any females outside of a M/s relationship.

I welcome any opinions and thoughts, this isn't a batter me post, so don't treat it like one, <grins> that don't mean that i will bash anyone who has a different viewpoint either, i just want to see if anyoen has had similar experiences when some see a profile or find out your a Dominant or slave.

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RE: Sicko's - 6/8/2006 11:50:18 AM

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Goreans get an especially bad rap because they believe it to be a biological imperative that female = submissive and male = dominant. Since so many people do NOT fit into that, nor do they desire it, it's somewhat insulting and denying them their own choice and validation (just as much as it is when people say "gor is make believe")

People have certain ideas they have formed from whatever information they have been given. Even novices who claim to be doms and subs have all sort of misconceptions and illusions.

The best thing to do is be a good example for yourself, answer questions honestly and simply and just be happy.

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RE: Sicko's - 6/8/2006 11:55:39 AM

Tikkiee

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Ignorance often leads to misunderstanding. I have had others ask me how I could possibly enjoy being abused at the hands of one who claims to love me. These questions are often asked because of a lack of understanding. I simply reply as honestly as I can, and hope that my answer will stem the flow of negativity from them. Sometimes it does; sometimes it does not. For me though, when I have managed to allow just one person to understand; it is more than worth the insults that are hurled.

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RE: Sicko's - 6/8/2006 12:28:24 PM

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I don't force someone into being gorean anymore than i would into being a submissive or dominant, its just what i am, I don't try to conform, nor did I become this before i met my slave, though i do see some things that conform to the books and how they relate to others, some don't. I don't expect third person, (to me that was only mentioned in the books when the slaves were begging for something or were being punished), but saying that i won't knock anyone for using it because its what their Owner wants (note Owner, because many are now being the big I am in the relationship by treating everyone else like shit lol) I just hate being viewed by the public as an abuser, I don't stab people, i don't go around (in a open way) treating all females as slaves.

On here everyone has an opinion and i don't mind how people view my posts, but like many i don't abuse the trust, would you cane someone in public? would you make someone in pain just because you could, amd then make the submissive slave walk around showing off the bruises, no well neither would i, so i am not an abuser, i only punish when needs call for it (maybe i should take the sadist part of my profile now)

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RE: Sicko's - 6/8/2006 12:34:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SilentHunter
would you cane someone in public?

Depending on the definition of "public" yes.

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would you make someone in pain just because you could, amd then make the submissive slave walk around showing off the bruises

Yes. That's pretty much the definition of a sadist and exhibitionist. Lots of people do this and aren't abusers.

, no well neither would i, so i am not an abuser, i only punish when needs call for it (maybe i should take the sadist part of my profile now)

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RE: Sicko's - 6/8/2006 1:21:10 PM

Tikkiee

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I just hate being viewed by the public as an abuser

Ah, but you see, it is not the public which views you as such. To say such a thing is quite a sweep

Many will not understand your lifestyle choices, they will belittle and take on a stance of "oh my, how could you?!!" Yet, there will also be those who while they may not agree, they do however understand. And then you will have those in between who generally just don't care.

How others perceive your life is of no importance. How you perceive your life is of the utmost importance.

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would you cane someone in public? would you make someone in pain just because you could, amd then make the submissive slave walk around showing off the bruises, no well neither would i, so i am not an abuser

I have been caned in public. I have been whipped in public. I have been slapped in public. That in no way makes me abused. However, it does make me kinky

In addition to this, I have proudly shown off my bruises. I take pride in them, much the way a person would take pride in something that they acquired through hard work.

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RE: Sicko's - 6/8/2006 1:32:19 PM

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By public i mean those that are neither Dominant or submissive andto put the bull in the china shop, switch either lol, i know societies norms don't allow caning, spanking (on your child either, PC has gone mad in the UK) or in any other way punish anyone, fighting gets you put in pison, and carrying any weapon be that knife or gun, gets y ou sent to the slammer too.

(just as a matter of interest are you Cassandra and LA a tag team by any chance) just kidding many don't like my sense of humour, I have been told at times that i have to run any punishments of my slave by someone else that i dont know exists because i in jest told her that she had to write out an essay on why a certain PITA is a fucktard. lmao have a great morning/day/evening Ladies.

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RE: Sicko's - 6/8/2006 2:03:04 PM

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greetings luckyalbatross....

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
Goreans get an especially bad rap because they believe it to be a biological imperative that female = submissive and male = dominant. Since so many people do NOT fit into that, nor do they desire it, it's somewhat insulting and denying them their own choice and validation (just as much as it is when people say "gor is make believe")

The biggest problem of all is that Goreans don't believe that. The gamers and people for whom a type of slavery or BDSM is all there is to being Gorean believe that. The truth is that we believe that on the sliding scale of dominance and submission men fall towards the dominant side and women fall towards the submissive side by our biological and innate nature.

Most people should not try to be Gorean. It would be wrong for them. Most people would be much better off following the tenants of the Boy or Girl Scouts than those of Gor. Yes, I know...the scouts are now bad people because they to are exclusive in their membership and stick by their beliefs.

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People have certain ideas they have formed from whatever information they have been given. Even novices who claim to be doms and subs have all sort of misconceptions and illusions.

The best thing to do is be a good example for yourself, answer questions honestly and simply and just be happy.

Here we agree.

be well....

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RE: Sicko's - 6/8/2006 2:10:18 PM

Tikkiee

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quote:

By public i mean those that are neither Dominant or submissive andto put the bull in the china shop, switch either lol

I know a great many people who are not Dominant, submissive, slave or switch. These same people know of my desires. Some understand, some do not. All I can do is answer their questions as honestly as I possibly can; hoping that they accept the fact that everyone is different.

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RE: Sicko's - 6/8/2006 2:24:24 PM

noyeh

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SilentHunter

I spoken to alot of subs and slaves, and to nilla's who have looked into dominantion and submissiion, and somewhat into gor, most of the websites that they have looked into see the humiliation, degredation and general bad shit that happens, I have wrote stories, (usually for other people, when they give me a general overview) and they have some of the stuff in there, but why oh why do they see us all as wife batterers, sheesh lol I went to play mahjong and pyramids and ended up having to close the chat windows when idiots read my profile, and say that i am a wife batterer. I don't hit any females outside of a M/s relationship.

I welcome any opinions and thoughts, this isn't a batter me post, so don't treat it like one, <grins> that don't mean that i will bash anyone who has a different viewpoint either, i just want to see if anyoen has had similar experiences when some see a profile or find out your a Dominant or slave.

Greetings Masters, Mistress's and fellow slaves,

Honestly You will always have those that have negative views of, Dominates,Masters,Domme's, Mistress's, slaves, submissives and others of various Lifestyles. You have those few individuals that get in trouble with the law that often causes these issues.

This happens in everyday life and Most People in a regular everyday "normal life" as they put it are ignorant to the real issue of what a strange or "unsual" life style is like.

The only thing we can Do as Free and slave is to help educate those that are willing to listen so that they too might perhaps pass this on to Others of the "vanilla" life. Better Understanding of Our lives and Positive education and not negative publicity is what we need. The few that break the rules and cause a public spectical is not the way of doing it.

But even with Education still comes ignorance. All we can do is grin and bear what comments are made about Us. We just have to strive and be The best we can and be a positive role model for others in Public so that the bad publicity does not reflect on Us. All this girl can suggest is roll Your shoulders back hold Your head high and walk on. Act as if the world is Your Oyster and forget about the negative feedback that comes back to You. Act as if it does not exsist in Your world.

< Message edited by noyeh -- 6/8/2006 2:25:19 PM >

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RE: Sicko's - 6/9/2006 1:13:17 PM

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I have slapped, spanked, pulled the hair of, ect... my kajira in public. She has worn the bruises I have given her in both play and punishment proudly. It shows that she is mine.

FYI, here, she has to press charges, the state/city can't, as she is a living adult.

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RE: Sicko's - 6/9/2006 3:05:40 PM

SilentHunter

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In most places in the UK, abuse has gone mad, out of all proportion to what it used to be 10 years ago, when i first got into Dom/sub about 1991 or so (i kind of found my way into it through the British army) and then you could pretty much get away with anything, I once seen a guy nail his balls to a plank of wood, sheesh they would get shut down for that this day and age.

Bruises used to be common especially on an army barracks, falls etc could be easily explained, but lol nail marks/welts are a little harder to explain, but seeing that as it is now, its usually within the household, the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) would prosecute me for spanking.

SH

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