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Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 10:34:24 AM   
maedhbhDdT


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Status: offline 		Greetings Masters,
Greetings Mistresses,
Hello slaves,

There are a lot of misconceptions about Goreans and Gor in general. One of the things I hear a lot is that it is common practice for Gorean Masters to share their slaves. I was wondering just how much if any truth there is to this. If the Masters and Mistresses would be so kind as to share their answers and thoughts on this I would be most appreciated. Also, if the slaves would like to leave theirs that would be most helpful and appreciated as well.

I thank you all for your time.

I wish you well,

maedhbh Property of Master Daughain

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 10:38:54 AM   
Musicmystery


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Status: offline 		Tal,

I speak only for myself, but I would never share my slave, just as I would not sleep with anyone else. If she's willing to devote herself to me, anything less than this devalues her important and precious decision.

I realize that others have other approaches, and I respect those as well--just not for me.

Tim

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 10:49:40 AM   
SilentHunter


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Status: offline 		Tal MusicMan and greetings maedhbh

I have to agree with MusicMan, why share a slave, there are plenty for others to get, i wouldn;t use another mans slave (through my own rationals) besides there are plenty of slaves that are unowned (not that i would use one of those either lol), but the way i see it, they see it as rude if you do not use them, but i would see it as dishonourable to use an already owned slave when i have one of my own.
 
 Hope this helps shift some confusion, but i doubt it lol
 
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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 1:00:47 PM   
wolffeathers


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Status: offline 		It all depends on the situation.

I'm a protective Man.  For my kajira to be shared, I must KNOW the other.

And, well, the other rule is that she will be sharing with me.  And there are few Men that I will have sex with.

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 1:12:14 PM   
ShreveportMaster


Posts: 898
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From: Dallas, Tx
Status: offline 		I know many who will allow their girl to serve another, but do not extend that service to sex. I for one when I eventualy own another girl would not mind her serving friends,etc at a tavern party, I don't mind hugs, backrubs, and most any other method of being pleasing and of use to the free.
 BUT,  NO ONE but Me is going to get her in bed.
'nuff said.

                    I wish you well,
                                                  Shreve


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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 1:15:36 PM   
Graywolfsanat


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Status: offline 		Master Shreveport....it is much the same in my master's House, I serve those He considers swordbrothers in many menial tasks but the 'second serve' is for Him alone.

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 1:23:41 PM   
maedhbhDdT


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Status: offline 		Greetings Masters, and thank you so much for your input on this topic. I had the sneaking suspicion the responses would be pretty close to what we are seeing here. I suspected the "Gorean Masters are well known for and quick to loan out their girls for sexual use." was either mostly untrue or in reference to those that are online only.

Thank you anat for your input as well. I know my Master won't share me either, not in a sexual way.

maedhbh

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 1:35:03 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		From what I know, slaves shouldn't concern themselves with the "how" or the "who" as long as they are following their masters orders, and in general, gorean slaves are thrilled to serve in all ways- so it would just be extra opportunities for them.

I find it amusing seeing a gorean master say it would somehow diminish service to give it to others.  Would a gorean slave think so?  Obviously if she's serving others, it's BECAUSE the master wants it and finds it good.

Service is what a gorean slave is for, and what they claim to be fulfilled by- so use them for it.

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 2:01:29 PM   
ShreveportMaster


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From: Dallas, Tx
Status: offline 		LA, you are correct, in that IF a Gorean master wishes to allow Anotehr to use His property, she has no say, unless for her it's such an issue she would beg release over it. But most Free that I know Do not WANT her shared, so she is not.
It is indeed all up to the Master in question. (girls, just anotehr reason, before you beg collar, ask, ask, and ask some more, for once you surrender to Him, it's to late to change anything)

                                 I wish you well,
                                                            Shreve

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Book 37, Pg 298 ;-)

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 4:03:22 PM   
noyeh


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Status: offline 		Greetings Masters, Mistress's and fellow slaves,

To this question i have to say for some it will vary. I do know some Masters whom won't share their girls and some that will. As for my Master,he is is very possessive of His noyeh. He won't even let fellow goreans see her naked. He is very firm on this as noyeh is His. And He reserves the right to not share what she looks like naked to others as that He considers His privilage. But He does let me know that if He told me too I would be naked before other People. Course that is a rule He will never enforce but He does let me know it is His choice. As for sharing me. He told me under no conditions would He share me. I am His and it is his right to reserve me for Himself.

There are those thou that are a bit more open to sharing their property then others. For those that do that is their choice. As their girls gave up their rights when becoming consensual slaves. Thou I do have to say if You share a slave to at least share safely practise safe sex and safely with any other practise YOu might have planned for your girl.

I myself as a slave really don't think it is very safe in this day and age to share with all the diseases going around. If a Master is going to do this make sure His slave is safe.  But really the only safe measure is to use Your slave and allow no others to touch her. But once agian that is the Masters choices.



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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 8:43:55 PM   
jezabelKH


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Status: offline 		MaedhbhDdt,

In Master's House slaves are not shared sexually outside of O/our home. W/we operate a closed "inner circle" rule on sex. W/we are poly but it is closed poly. No Swinging.

Now as far as service goes any of Master's slave's may serve another Master, but in service only.

Now as far as BDSM scenes, Master did share his previous slave "super butt" He also called her "pixie" but He does not share His current slave tinkerbell or myself at all, besides last time i was at the sanctuary i sat and visited with friends the whole night while Master played with His painslut.

i hope that answered your question.

jezabel{KH}
just simply a slave
Property Of Master Ken

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/9/2006 11:41:24 PM   
IronBear


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From: Beenleigh, Qld, Australia
Status: offline 		This is a matter on which I have no fixed stand. I will make such decisions according to my will at the appropriate time and place. Sufice it for a slave to know that she may sexually serve another if it is my will....

EDITED TO ADD:

That a slave of mine can and will tell you that she is my slut because she will dress or act as a slut and even remove her clothes when, were and how I command regardless of who is present and personally with me she be a slut for it is my will that she is thus. When she tells you that she is my whore it is because she will fuck when, where,how and whom I command her to do so or never at all other rthan with me alone. My choice. Mine to command, hers to obey.


< Message edited by IronBear -- 6/9/2006 11:46:41 PM >

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/10/2006 12:05:10 AM   
edana


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Status: offline 		Greetings,

for my Master, it's like letting someone borrow his sail boat, or take his bike for a spin... He'd not just allow any one to handle his property.  It is pretty much the same for how he keeps me.  I know that if he had a close friend whom he wanted to see spend a night in comfort he very well offer me to him for use.  He would know that first of all. his friend would use me well, and secondly... that i would serve him well.  Fundamentally that is what it is for Goreans.  they tend to be happy to offer a service for a "brother".   The reality of that for me is not something i beg for personally.  I am a slut, and always have been.  but in complete honesty i have a difficult time thinking about having to serve another man... way back in my mind it would be me being disloyal to the man i love.   I know the "but he is commanding it" line...  still, that icky feeling is there.  I dont worry about it much though,  no sense in that... i know that he'd not command that of me if he didnt think i would serve well, for a girl to do that she would need to be trained both physically and emotionally to know her place and position... i still have a ways to go.

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/10/2006 2:39:30 AM   
mons


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I oh no sharing it is the master choice
oh no I feel sad now i thought for a moment
it was not true. that is my greatest fear to
be given to another. somoen i do no love or like
I wishe to hear if anyone has oh no. Master Iron bear oh

best iwshes

mons/jane;(

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/10/2006 2:45:05 AM   
ShreveportMaster


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From: Dallas, Tx
Status: offline 		 mons,
many, if not most R/L Goreans do not share their girls, this is just another reason why We tell girls, before you ever even think of begging collar of a Master, ask, ask, and ask some more questions, and find out for certain, and in detail what his expectations and desires are. If they are things which you know you can't do, then do not seek to be enslaved by Him.

                    I wish you well,
                                              Shreve

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Riders of Gor
Book 37, Pg 298 ;-)

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/10/2006 3:22:17 AM   
Malkinius


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Status: offline 		Tal and greetings all.....

I have known Goreans who have shared their slaves sexually with others and some who refuse to do so. Unlike many here, I would share a slave with another Gorean that I trusted. I have certainly shared their non-sexual service with others. I have heard a few men say that they would not let their slaves serve another man in any way, not even to the simple fetching a drink for them. That person is not a Master but a very weak and insecure male who shouldn't be owning a slave. I will also note that some men have changed their minds about this as have their slaves over the time they are Master and slave. Some slaves that I know have literally begged to be shared with someone else to prove to themselves that they can do it and can serve their Master in any way he might wish.

Note...I certainly agree with people here that if there is sexual sharing/usage of slaves, that safer sex rules should apply and be followed.

Be well.....

Malkinius


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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/10/2006 3:59:39 AM   
TolerableCruelty


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Status: offline 		I've shared in the use of a girl before... for the week I spent, I learned much from the Man that had loaned her to Me, as well as learning quite a lot from the girl herself.
So far as actually sharing My girl out for sexual service... right now, I would say a definate no. She is nowhere near prepared for that. By prepared, I mean her submissiveness isn't exactly at that mental stage yet... I have no fears that she would do as I ordered, should I command her to... but I would be resented for it in the long run. In the future, as her personal service to Me progresses... who knows, she may very well be of the whole objectification mindset, and see herself as I do... property of a Gorean Man.

As far as regular non-sexual service... such as fetching a drink or anything else that may be helpful to a Free that is visiting My home... she does so with amazing grace and beauty, as quickly and efficiently as possible... since she is a direct reflection of Me, and I'd have it no other way.

T.R.


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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/10/2006 4:20:24 AM   
FrankAr


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Status: offline 		Greetings maed,

I personally would let my kajira serve any FM and FW in the confines of my home during a dinner, and drinks, I would actually have her serve to the best of her ability and nothing less.  Whether I then take it to the next level with her being a sexual serving kajira, would be decided upon the FM.  I would not let every Tom, Dick or Harry have my property, I would need to know them, to be relaxed with them and then at that stage, she would serve as a kajira would...in every way that I TELL her to, for remember she has no thoughts and say upon the matter, I have the FINAL word, simple in my eyes.

Be well and take care.

Master Frank Ar.

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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/10/2006 4:28:16 AM   
IronBear


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From: Beenleigh, Qld, Australia
Status: offline 		Tal  Malkinius,

You have a point there regarding sharing a slave service wise.. Leaving our the sexual aspect, when you visit a home and the slave/s of the home serve you a dring etc, the slave/s is/are being shared with you. Oe Gorean Dinner I attended in the last year or so, had all slaves, visiting or not, sertving all the free irrespective who owned them. That is a good example of community sharing.

On the basis of sexual sharing, I can see a situation when involved with a swinging party (Way out of the lifestyle and may not happen but I used to swing with my 2nd wife.), it would indeed be possible that a slave may be shared buy either a male or a female.. One advantage of a poly family is that all thigs are possible. If a kajira ends up in the HIB collar then sjhe is jountly owned by Neets and I. We both may decide to use her or if she ends up in my collar I'd be happy to share her with Neets assuming Neets wanted to play with her. Much of the comments about not sharing may be based upon the "morality" of society which is based on the juseochristian faiths and their morality. For me I have never subscribed to that religious belief nor their morality which BTW is great for them but just not my cup of tea.... I'm an Amoral bastard and make my own rules and terms in which to face life.... The only reason I may decide to ever share a specific girl wiould be if I believed such an experience would be detremental to her. I am never one to dammage or deliberately harm my property (nor any one elses for that matter).....


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RE: Sharing Slaves - 6/10/2006 12:03:15 PM   
Malkinius


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Status: offline 		Tal IronBear....

quote:

ORIGINAL: IronBear
Tal  Malkinius,

You have a point there regarding sharing a slave service wise.. Leaving our the sexual aspect, when you visit a home and the slave/s of the home serve you a dring etc, the slave/s is/are being shared with you. Oe Gorean Dinner I attended in the last year or so, had all slaves, visiting or not, sertving all the free irrespective who owned them. That is a good example of community sharing.

On the basis of sexual sharing, I can see a situation when involved with a swinging party (Way out of the lifestyle and may not happen but I used to swing with my 2nd wife.), it would indeed be possible that a slave may be shared buy either a male or a female.. One advantage of a poly family is that all thigs are possible. If a kajira ends up in the HIB collar then sjhe is jountly owned by Neets and I. We both may decide to use her or if she ends up in my collar I'd be happy to share her with Neets assuming Neets wanted to play with her. Much of the comments about not sharing may be based upon the "morality" of society which is based on the juseochristian faiths and their morality. For me I have never subscribed to that religious belief nor their morality which BTW is great for them but just not my cup of tea.... I'm an Amoral bastard and make my own rules and terms in which to face life.... The only reason I may decide to ever share a specific girl wiould be if I believed such an experience would be detremental to her. I am never one to dammage or deliberately harm my property (nor any one elses for that matter).....


Ya know....you really ought to edit your posts a bit better. I think you meant in that next to last sentence to have inserted a "not" before detrimental. Spell checking would be a good thing too. <grins> I don't always spell check, but since I keep my email program up, I just copy and paste what I write into there and let it do the checking for me then paste it back since CM doesn't have a spelling checker.

Other than that, I agree with you and with a previous poster who said that the slave needs to be ready for such a step otherwise it could harm her.

Be well....

Malkinius


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