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ORIGINAL: Serenity1301

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If you have a problem with financial domination inasmuch as not being able to wrest free from some hackle-raising cartoon of a hot, shallow scammer in your head whenever the word is mentioned, if the term makes you want to gush out an MRA-ish diatribe about unscrupulous femme fatales and patently piteous men only inhabiting the practice, you might want to look into your revealing bitterness and ignorance on the matter and question the source of your feelings. In a sphere where a bullwhip can paint someone's back red to much applause and orgasmic simpering, taking issue with the financial aspects of dominance and submission seems a bit...ironic, don't you think?

Well said. Let lie what other do in their personal lives with full consent. If it's not your kink then don't indulge same with everything else practiced in the enormous sphere.

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Ok.

Send me some money. To blow on recreational shopping. While I laugh at you. And I want a new, used, car. And my rent needs to get paid, AGAIN. And I need some more shoes. And a pedicure. And there is this stack of bills that someone needs to deal with.

What? Not sexy? Moi? What's not sexy about presuming in this ridicules, grasping, caricature fashion?

Should I clarify a bit more?

Ok.

Y'all fuck off.

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ORIGINAL: Serenity1301

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Ok.

Send me some money. To blow on recreational shopping. While I laugh at you. And I want a new, used, car. And my rent needs to get paid, AGAIN. And I need some more shoes. And a pedicure. And there is this stack of bills that someone needs to deal with.

What? Not sexy? Moi? What's not sexy about presuming in this ridicules, grasping, caricature fashion?

Should I clarify a bit more?

Ok.

Y'all fuck off.

You don't have the attraction so of course you don't agree but why should you be able to tell other people what they can and can't be attracted to?
You don't like it don't get involved, very simple. No one is forcing you to participate.

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Ok.

Send me some money. To blow on recreational shopping. While I laugh at you. And I want a new, used, car. And my rent needs to get paid, AGAIN. And I need some more shoes. And a pedicure. And there is this stack of bills that someone needs to deal with.

What? Not sexy? Moi? What's not sexy about presuming in this ridicules, grasping, caricature fashion?

Should I clarify a bit more?

Ok.

Y'all fuck off.

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

I do think in some cases it is a form of D/s. There are some here that I believe are dominant and have a dynamic.

But, I think the majority of so-called "Dommes" in this field aren't. They have no idea what it means to be dominant (nor do I think they care) and they equate being dominant with being a bitchy twat. They're just a bunch "women" that have discovered that some guys are desperate enough to buy them gifts and pay their bills.

OsideGirl,
Sadly, I think you may be correct.

As a male sub, I probably see a lot more Domme profiles than you do, and I can honestly say that I am sometimes sickened by the number of 19 year old "financial Dommes" there are on CM.

I'm not one to judge people based on their age. There are lots of young people who are legitimately active in BDSM (just see any of the local TNG groups for proof of that). But I seriously question how much knowledge all of these 19 year old financial dommes are bringing to the party. Will the really have enough knowledge and experience to draw upon to give a paying client his money's worth?

Also, a pet peeve of mine is Dommes who are giving people the bird in their profile pics. And it seems like financial Dommes are the ones who are most likely to strike this pose in their pictures.

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The only issue i have about financial domination is when subs are so desperate for someone to play with them, that they "give" tributes to women for the attention. So what you have is someone who's kink isn't financial domination paying for attention - because that is the only way they can indulge in their legitimate fetishes and perversions (said with love lol).
There is something very sad about that situation. Both people probably agree with what is going on - but the subs would probably prefer a domme who didn't require payment, as in a regular relationship.

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Personally, I think that anyone who fits into that group should utilize the services of a pro-Domme, rather than a financial Domme. I think they'll likely get more for their money. But that's just my opinion, and it obviously won't be true in all cases.

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I'm not one to judge people based on their age. There are lots of young people who are legitimately active in BDSM (just see any of the local TNG groups for proof of that). But I seriously question how much knowledge all of these 19 year old financial dommes are bringing to the party. Will the really have enough knowledge and experience to draw upon to give a paying client his money's worth?

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ORIGINAL: nephandi

Greetings

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Ok.

Send me some money. To blow on recreational shopping. While I laugh at you. And I want a new, used, car. And my rent needs to get paid, AGAIN. And I need some more shoes. And a pedicure. And there is this stack of bills that someone needs to deal with.

What? Not sexy? Moi? What's not sexy about presuming in this ridicules, grasping, caricature fashion?

Should I clarify a bit more?

Ok.

Y'all fuck off.

What you do not get is that many do find this sexy, they like the idea of being used, that they send money that some random woman then use on whatever she desires and perhaps send them a few lines of you are a bad, bad boy in return and what is the problem? I am not into this but why do it bother you if someone else is? I find the topic title on this thread rather offensive, is financial Domination a legitimate form of D/s? Off course it is as long as some people want to engage in it. What I do not get is this I do not share your kink so you have to be an idiot for engaging in it thing that seam to be going on here, have we not learned from all the vanilla folks who look down on every BDSMer to not do the same to others? If two people want to engage in financial Domination what is the problem, as long as all involved are consensual adults who do it hurt? Why this hatred towards it?

I wish you well

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ORIGINAL: nephandi

I find the topic title on this thread rather offensive, is financial Domination a legitimate form of D/s?

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What I do not get is this I do not share your kink so you have to be an idiot for engaging in it thing that seam to be going on here, have we not learned from all the vanilla folks who look down on every BDSMer to not do the same to others? If two people want to engage in financial Domination what is the problem, as long as all involved are consensual adults who does it hurt?

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm

Financial domination must here be viewed as it is most often seen on this site. Not in some theoretical view of what it could be, might be, please believe it should be.

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ORIGINAL: nephandi


And the problem is? If someone is willing to pay to get their kinks met and they do it of their own free will what is the problem, off course it is nice when folks of similar kinks meet, but sometimes that do not happen, a sub do not have an automatic right to find a Dom who and to play with him or her in exactly the way they desire to be played with.

I wish you well

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ORIGINAL: Alecta

By this you are purporting that if the imitation is the majority, the imitation becomes the true article. It is no different from declaring, in a hypothetical world where there are more mtf crossdressers than genetic women that we must view "women" as it is "most often seen", the mtf crossdresser, and not an actual genetic woman.

Fallacy is one of the great sins.

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ORIGINAL: Alecta

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ORIGINAL: Extravagasm

Financial domination must here be viewed as it is most often seen on this site. Not in some theoretical view of what it could be, might be, please believe it should be.

By this you are purporting that if the imitation is the majority, the imitation becomes the true article. It is no different from declaring, in a hypothetical world where there are more mtf crossdressers than genetic women that we must view "women" as it is "most often seen", the mtf crossdresser, and not an actual genetic woman.

Fallacy is one of the great sins.

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What you do not get is that many find it insulting, profoundly insulting, to both genders. I am not talking inconvenient. I mean irritating. And I agree, totally, that if two people want, etcetera, etcetera, that is perfectly FINE. The problem arises where you say, "as long as all involved are consensual adults who do it hurt?" The problem is, it is not just two consenting adults. If it were, then I would have nothing to bitch about, would I? Because I would not be treated to a show every time some Bimbo wants to pay rent.

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And it is a show. Meant for everyone. That's how advertising works. The story is, she's GREAT (or even better!) and I'm WORTHLESS (except for the money ;)

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Lord knows, I try to keep an open mind, but it needs saying. It is not fun to watch that show. The truth is, she's NOT great, and I'm NOT worthless.

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I kinda agree with FF on the worthless part. It bugs me when I hear shit like "worthless, useless, etc". Sometimes I wanna say things like "Bitch if he is worthless or useless you aren't using him right!!" But I don't. My male fin. slaves are far from worthless. Each of them have a very important job when it comes to what I want. Humiliation is one thing, but the whole song and dance of "gimme all your money worthless pig" is lame.

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In other words, under the guise of giving very little back . . . . really some FDs don't even back up their pictures. So they, more readily than any other posers, could be anybody, any gender, any looks. The earlier comments that only some can attract this, only makes sense if the sub 'client' can investigate/verify.

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Many are not legitimate forms of BDSM when they avoid participating in verification !

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Look, it is cardinal in BDSM, that until a sub/slave has made their decision, they retain prerogative to determine rightness of their top. FDs who don't uphold a verification standard are IMHO outside the confines of accepted BDSM. A bit like professional wrestling vs. legitimate sports.