jlf1961
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And I am still trying to figure out how condemning Israel for defending itself from aggression, or people justifying rocker attacks against civilians is not antisemitic.
It stands to reason that a country that is mostly Jewish is condemned for defending itself, or if the killing of civilians of that country is justified, then it stands to reason that killing Jewish civilians is justified and a predominately Jewish country not being allowed to defend itself sure sounds antisemitic.
Once again your point is flat wrong.
To spell it out for you: Logically criticism of any country can only be racist IF and ONLY IF there is a direct equivalence between the nation (Israel) and the race (the Jewish race). No such equivalence exists. About a quarter of Israelis are non-Jewish. About half of world's Jews live in countries other than Israel. The Jewish race has survived for c2,000 years without an Israel existing.
'Israel' and 'the Jewish people/religion' are NOT interchangeable terms, there is NO direct equivalence no matter how appealing and/or politically expedient this false assertion is to Zionists. Therefore political criticism of Israel is not racist or anti-Semitic.
Apologists for the nasty apartheid terrorist State of Israel automatically lose the right to accuse others of racism when they excuse or gloss over Israeli apartheid and ethnic cleansing.
Please stick your insidious contemptible claim where the monkey stuck his nuts. Permanently. The hypocrisy is unbearable.
Okay, lets see per your statements
1) It is okay for Palestinian terrorist to fire rockets and mortars at Israeli civilians.
2) Your statements about the 67 war and the actions of the Iraeli military make it seem you think the country should be erased off the map.
3) What I said about deporting Palestinians, was "When your neighbors and a group of people have publically stated that your country should be erased from the map and its citizens killed to the last man, woman and child, deportations make sense." I did not say it was the right thing to do.
4) As for building settlements in what was supposed to be a buffer zone against attack from neighboring countries, it is not right, morally or ethically, and in the military sense, it is down right stupid. If I was an Arab neighbor invading Israel, I would make sure I had strong attacks against every one of those settlements, it would tie up IDF troops in defending them, allowing my main attack to proceed with minor resistance.
What should have been done in those areas bordering Arab countries would be move all civilians out of the territory and mine the shit out of it. That is what south Korea did along the border with North Korea.
I never said Israel was right, or they were justified. The problem I have is with people like you that seem to minimize the civilian causalties of Palestinian shelling and rocket attacks.
Those rockets are Russian and still used by the Russian military as Area Affect weapons.
I have also condemned the Israelis for using standard artillery to shell the areas where those launchers are located, because Palestinian non combatants are in the area. The Israeli air force has smart weapons that could hit the launchers with minimum civilian casualties.
I have a problem with the US military targeting major civilian areas as well.
So instead of telling me that I have no clue, why dont you read everything I have posted and then tell me that your posts that implied that Israel should be wiped off the map were misworded.
As for a people that were doing fine without a country, I could say the same for the Aborigines in Australia. They were doing fine until your ancestors showed up. After that, they were royally fucked.
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