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"Worthy Master" - 4/10/2013 6:58:00 PM   
StrongSpirit


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Status: offline 		I had a weird phone call. It was a first contact thing and the sub asked me "What makes you a 'worthy' master?"

I said I was considerate, intelligent, creative, and don't put up with crap. I also added that to truly answer that questions she would have to meet me.

She said she didn't consider that a good enough answer.

Did I give a ridiculous answer? Was she being incredibly selective?

What would YOU consider a good answer to the question "What makes you a worthy master?"
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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/10/2013 7:23:33 PM   
DarkSteven


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Status: offline 		Where'd that come from? Your profile never refers to you that way.

First off, I'm not a Master. I've never portrayed myself as one. I'm missing several skill sets.

If I were asked that, I'd first refute the basic assertion, then give several anecdotes to show who I am, and what I do.

I really dislike that question. If we're compatible, we're compatible, and if not, not. I don't need to fit anyone's label, nor does she.

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/10/2013 7:36:40 PM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		I think the answer will vary from person to person wanting the answer.

I will, however, admit, that I found her turning the tables and asking you what made you worthy of owning her as opposed to another thread currently running where a sub was asked by a "master" what made her worthy of being owned. It's a two way street, each considering the worthiness of the other.

I'm sorry my amusement was at your expense though.

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/10/2013 7:41:46 PM   
SeekingTrinity


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From: The 'burbs of Portland, OR
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I too think its a rather stupid and pointless question. Worthy how? All you can be is who you are and stand by that. if this person doesnt like that answer, that is on them. I wouldn't answer it. Like DarkSteven, I don't claim the title of Master (female version of course) and have no problems with explaining who I am and what Im about. But Im certainly not going to measure myself on some subjective and arbitrary worthiness scale.

I didn't find your answer ridiculous.

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/10/2013 7:49:28 PM   
MizzSpitfire


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Status: offline 		You can't be a "Master" until you have a slave to be Master OF, but worthiness as a Dominant means different things to different people. To me, a Dominant needs to have integrity and honesty, be in control of his/her OWN life first, and be dedicated to a real power exchange. The things on your list are a plus.
Honestly, she sounds quite clueless herself, and you're better off moving on.

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/10/2013 8:51:53 PM   
StrongSpirit


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Status: offline 		Thanks for the confirmation. I don't consider myself a "master" because I am looking for a sub.

Most probably she was looking for something specific and I did not fit. I just wished she was better at describing what she wanted and had asked outright rather than trying to get a spontaneous claim of being exactly what she desired.

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/10/2013 10:09:22 PM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		I still favor the camp of saying something ridiculous in reply to those questions. "I have a pen for your goats or sheep, and a basement to store the cheese and wine."

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/10/2013 11:05:57 PM   
AthenaSurrenders


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quote:

ORIGINAL: StrongSpirit

Thanks for the confirmation. I don't consider myself a "master" because I am looking for a sub.

Most probably she was looking for something specific and I did not fit. I just wished she was better at describing what she wanted and had asked outright rather than trying to get a spontaneous claim of being exactly what she desired.


Sounds like you dodged a bullet. You don't want to be in a relationship where you are expected to read someone's mind and live up to a set of standards you don't know about - dom or sub.

It sounds like this person had a fantasy in mind, probably from erotica or her own imagination. Your answer didn't feed into that fantasy. Some people believe they shouldn't have to explain what they require because a "true" dominant would just be that way. They forget it is a relationship.

There was nothing wrong with your answer. The question was a bit lame. I do think both parties should ask themselves what they bring to a relationship, but I dislike situations where one partner acts as the interviewer and the other party has to prove him/herself worthy.

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/10/2013 11:15:35 PM   
graceadieu


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Status: offline 		Maybe I'm being too cynical, but my guess is that she wanted to hear about how you could financially support her.

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/10/2013 11:54:42 PM   
JeffBC


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quote:

ORIGINAL: StrongSpirit
What would YOU consider a good answer to the question "What makes you a worthy master?"

I don't recognize this as a question so much as a manipulation attempt and power play. I'm not particularly interested in submitting to subs I don't even know so the answers that went through my head werent constructive. Had the question been asked differently I might have said, "I am looking to own a human. Who on all earth but that human could reasonably judge my worthiness for such a thing? If you were hoping I'd give you the sales pitch I'm pretty sure that means we are incompatible on endless levels."

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/11/2013 4:22:27 AM   
Rattenkonig


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Status: offline 		I ask that question as a domme a lot but as a human looking for a relationship with a mother human with a kinky twist it makes sense.

What makes you different from the 79 other dudes who are potential suitors? I think you could have given more meat to your answer as I is very vague. It's like saying "oh you should be my slave because I'm a nice guy but I'm also strict" that's vague as all hell. It shows no real knowledge or experiance or anything about you as a person.

While I agree about sometimes needing to meet someone to really feel the chemistry, I think saying "well, you'll know the kind of guy I am if you meet me" isn't a good way to go. You should know yourself. Who you are, what you want, don't want, what you know, what you don't know and what you want to learn or explore.

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/11/2013 5:35:55 AM   
muhly22222


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It's a silly question. It's like being asked "Tell me about yourself." What are you supposed to do, spend the next 12 hours telling them about your life history, the things that make you tick, the different facets of your personality...and that's just the tip of the iceberg?

If I got asked that question, my answer would probably have just been "Because I'm me." A cynical view makes it sound like she was looking at you (or masters in general) as some sort of delivery system, either financial or kink. If she's not willing to get to know you, and take some time doing that, good riddance.

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/11/2013 7:05:34 AM   
OsideGirl


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quote:

ORIGINAL: StrongSpirit

I had a weird phone call. It was a first contact thing and the sub asked me "What makes you a 'worthy' master?"

I said I was considerate, intelligent, creative, and don't put up with crap. I also added that to truly answer that questions she would have to meet me.

She said she didn't consider that a good enough answer.

Did I give a ridiculous answer? Was she being incredibly selective?

What would YOU consider a good answer to the question "What makes you a worthy master?"


I wouldn't have even asked the question she asked and before you've even met, there isn't an answer I consider a good answer.

She's way off in fantasy land and you probably dodged a bullet, because I'm willing to bet she has this so built up in her head that no one could live up to her expectations.

As for you, the only possible answer in my head would be "I have not met and I don't even know if I like you, yet. It's too early to be discussing an M/s dynamic."


quote:

ORIGINAL: StrongSpirit
I just wished she was better at describing what she wanted and had asked outright rather than trying to get a spontaneous claim of being exactly what she desired.
I will tell you that her lack of description probably has to do with the behavior of the guys she has dealt with on this website. I have a friend who has a profile on the other side. She is purposefully vague about the details of what her ideal situation is because she has found that a lot of guys will say what ever they think she wants to hear. She makes them describe what their ideal situation is before she tells them about hers.

< Message edited by OsideGirl -- 4/11/2013 7:06:16 AM >

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/11/2013 7:17:35 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		I'd have gone the other way.

I'd have told the person about My experience level, past dynamics, about the household, community involvement, etc, etc. Kind of the same stuff as when posting on these boards when the topic comes up. I don't think I would have tripped out just because somebody used the word "worthy". I might have even been glad that somebody wasn't willing to settle for less than what they were hoping to find or were demonstrating that they realize that just because somebody checked the 'Dom' box on the profile doesn't mean they should just take their word for that.


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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/11/2013 7:53:01 AM   
Aswad


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rattenkonig

You should know yourself.


Here's what I know about myself: I can't be conveyed in a five minute conversation, much less summed up in answer to a question, but anyone I ever cared to talk to, let alone be in a relationship with, has found our initial conversation pleasant, interesting and worth a follow-up. So I just take it from there, really.

It's quite possibly the least useful question I've heard, but as LadyPact said, I wouldn't freak over the choice of words.

IWYW,
β€” Aswad.



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From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.


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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/11/2013 9:06:50 AM   
JeffBC


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aswad
Here's what I know about myself: I can't be conveyed in a five minute conversation, much less summed up in answer to a question

This is what I meant by someone looking for a sales-pitch wouldn't be compatible with me. Anyone who sees humans like that and treats relationships like some fast food drive-thru scenario just wouldn't work for me. If I compare LP's and my responses I have to assume that once again we're talking about differences in how we view relationships. If I were more interested in casual or play-only relationships then the question makes more sense. For me though, this question might as well have been asked:

"What makes you a good husband?"

And the only answer I could come up with would be "Good for whom? I can tell you why it worked out well between Carol and I. I can also tell you why it didn't between myself and my previous two wives. What is it that you're looking for?"

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/11/2013 9:45:01 AM   
BitaTruble


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quote:

ORIGINAL: StrongSpirit


What would YOU consider a good answer to the question "What makes you a worthy master?"

It's a set up question with an end result of pass/fail. I hate those. I'm not in school and don't need to write an essay for the teacher so they can give me a grade. Fuck that. Truly. So, bottom line, my answer to that question would look something like this ---//>




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Rock, paper, scissors."

He laughed. "You are the wisest woman I know."


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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/11/2013 4:28:03 PM   
theshytype


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Status: offline 		I don't consider your answer awful. It's not really a right or wrong type question, just not what she was looking for. If I had asked a question like that, instead of a list of qualities, a creative and simple smartass response would have worked for me. She could have been looking for something similar to what LadyPact said.

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/11/2013 4:45:25 PM   
freedomdwarf1


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I think I would have turned that question on it's head and said something like -
"What makes you a worthy enough slave to ask such a question??"

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RE: "Worthy Master" - 4/11/2013 5:00:05 PM   
HarryVanWinkle


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Status: offline 		This is an interesting question, worthy of a serious answer, unlike so many questions I see. I will, of course, deal with it as a hypothetical question, being as how the OP and I are each of the wrong sex for the other.

quote:



What would YOU consider a good answer to the question "What makes you a worthy master?"



I wouldn't ask the question, just as I wouldn't answer a profile that says, "Tell me why you're worthy of serving me."

It's not a matter of "worthiness". It's a matter or compatibility. And compatibility can only be established by spending a lot of time with one another.

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