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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/7/2013 10:48:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NotTellingUAgain

Always an interesting question. If a guy like the OP really really wants to have a woman sit on his face is he REALLY submissive?
Seems that only if you were a guy who HATED the idea would it be FUN for the Domme to MAKE YOU DO IT.
For the OP, your Domme would read your post and TEASE you, and TAUNT you but NEVER GIVE IT TO YOU Right?



Wrong.

Dominant does not mean sadist.

Submissive does not mean you must be miserable and unhappy.

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/7/2013 12:10:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: peterpeter

I always have a kinky desire for Extreme and Prolonged facesitting; it's to less extent about oral service, but more pronounced to objectification kind of humiliation; Face is the noble part of a human, when it's being sat under a lady's butt, it's easily seen who is superior; this thought always makes me thrilling from feeling of humiliation, especially when that noble part is being kept for prolonged period of time under some kinds of extreme treatment.


I would like to see your comments from a Domme's viewpoint.


Sincerely

Peter

What we are talking about is perception. This is important. If I, as the femdom, perceive that you are just getting off on my ass being on your face, because that's your humiliation fetish, I don't feel very dominant.

When I meet a man, I develop a perception about what I THINK makes him feel most humiliated. I see it in my own mind's eye. I feel it in my core. I want to feel authentically what is going to hurt his precious male ego, and it's not about his cock. The way it works for me is this. I humiliate him (for real), then I get wet and ALL turned on and shove that in his face - "Look, you poor thing, I am degrading you, and it's making me wet!" and then he gets turned on because I am wet. Then I humiliate him further because he's degraded AND aroused. That's the "full circle humiliation" for me, and it's tricky to make happen, but it can.

I can do facesitting for the hell of it, but call it what it is. It's a man who gets off on pretending to be humiliated but he wants it, pure and simple. Real humiliation calls for pain of the ego. It calls for real shame. A man does not dream or desire to be put into the position nor does he seek out and dictate who goes in what position. And it isn't easy to get there.

Again, there is nothing WRONG with it, but it's a different kind of "play." There's teasing, shame-play, etc. I have sat on a man's face who hated it and struggled and I smothered him and it was a fight to get him to hold still - yeah, that's hot. I've had to tie men down or have a girlfriend hold his head in place. Yes, good stuff. But a man saying -- ok, this is where I sit and you sit and this is why, etc. etc., not so hot.

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/7/2013 1:07:03 PM   
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What we are talking about is perception. This is important. If I, as the femdom, perceive that you are just getting off on my ass being on your face, because that's your humiliation fetish, I don't feel very dominant.

When I meet a man, I develop a perception about what I THINK makes him feel most humiliated.


Ironic, really. In the days of yore I decided that I'd adopt the policy of keeping very quiet about what exactly are my favourite kinks. This was precisely because my kinks work best for me when the femdom doesn't *know* that they're my kinks and her main purpose is to humiliate me, or use me in some other way.

My keeping quiet was never going to work in practice, of course. But I've still kept those kinks pretty much under my hat - it's become somewhat second nature.


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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/7/2013 1:18:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I decided that I'd adopt the policy of keeping very quiet about what exactly are my favourite kinks.



So you don't tell her that you secretly love to have ice cream shoved up your bum?

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/7/2013 1:20:30 PM   
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Frigging hell Roch, you've ruined my strategy now. Git. Still, nobody know what flavour of ice cream . . . .

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/7/2013 1:25:26 PM   
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Fookin ell mate. You are still in good stead, they don't know the flavor you like, do they?

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/7/2013 2:18:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Frigging hell Roch, you've ruined my strategy now. Git. Still, nobody know what flavour of ice cream . . . .



As if it could be anything other than chocolate.....

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/7/2013 3:03:19 PM   
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. . . But seriously, folks: does any sub male try to pull the same trick? That is, keep quiet about his favourite kink, the better to enjoy knowing that a woman who happens to be doing that kink with him is doing it for 'all the right - that is, dominating, forcing, humiliating, even 'punitive' - reasons'?

Once, a femdom wrote to me at my profile. After just two emails, she mentioned *in passing and without knowing what my kink was* that she'd like to meet me and do that kink with me. I haired off across the country to meet her, so horny that was. She believed that my favourite kink was something that I'd least want to do. Egad: Jackpot.

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/7/2013 5:06:01 PM   
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Akasha,

Very well said; my Solute!!!

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/8/2013 2:23:56 PM   
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There are a few Women who like this fetish. Granted, they are the minority and it certainly seems to be more Males into this but there are some Ladies who really do like it. I can maybe understand how someone can view this from a humiliation aspect but that's not the way I've viewed it. I also never demand anything from any "Domme" I've been around.  To my surprise, one of the Ladies I knew did seem to make my fantasy into a reality but its because She wanted to do it. Sometimes, I can see where patience does pay off.

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 8/8/2013 3:15:53 PM   
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I really don't like playing guessing games. So if a male is quiet about what he enjoys I figure he is either shy or service minded in which case I am going to do my best to do exactly what I want to do. He will either express discontent or give me service which is what I want. His kinks are important but really in a service based relationship secondary to the dynamic of the relationship. Im not up for mind reading Domme tricks anymore wading through all that crap in another person consciousness is really exhausting as I get older so I prefer straight up straight forward kick the tires kinda guys.

PS; I think its rocky road flavor ice cream...more texture

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 9/1/2013 12:41:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: peterpeter

I always have a kinky desire for Extreme and Prolonged facesitting. . . . objectification . . . humiliation . . . when it's being sat under a lady's butt, it's easily seen who is superior; this thought always makes me thrill[ed] from feeling of humiliation, especially . . . kept for prolonged period of time under some kinds of extreme treatment.

I would like to see your comments from a Domme's viewpoint.


quote:

ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl

ETA: I would use face-sitting for Domination but not for humiliation. At least humiliation does not cross my mind when I do it to someone. I don't consider a pussy to be an awful thing or humiliating.

Touche!

Now, I'm picking up two vibes from you peterpeter. One is that somehow you equate being dominated by a female, vis-à-vis face-sitting, as being humiliated. You enjoy feeling humiliated, that part is not in question. You ask for a Domme's perspective. I think we're in agreement that we don't consider this an act of (forced) humiliation, but rather one of domination. There are plenty of vanilla men who enjoy having a woman sit on their face; to them this is an acceptable form of expressing their desire to be dominated and wanting a woman to act sexually aggressive, forceful even. I believe your desire to be "kept for [a] prolonged period of time under...extreme treatment" refers to Queening, specifically being held down or restrained and then figuratively smothered, as there is a breath control component to this. Nothing wrong with that other than you must keep in mind this is NOT about YOU, your exciting feelings of helplessness or of being used as a sextoy. This is about bringing pleasure to your Mistress, and if it pleases her to Queen you, then you can get into it all you want. If, as NBMG has also pointed out, you don't know what you're doing while you're down there, then you are of little use to us in this capacity, my friend, more of an inconvenience.

An aside--if you have it in your head that any Domme is going to want to do this for an hour or more, dispel of that notion this instant. I get messaged by foolish wannabe subs who profess to want to perform oral servicing for "hours"- one had the audacity to claim he has done this for 4-5 hours - which only tips me off how fake they really are or that they're living in a FemDom fantasy world. There is nothing remotely gratifying or erotic about getting numbed and having no sensation anymore, with the exception perhaps of a painful leg cramp.

Which segues into ass worship, while we're on the subject or oral servicing. Being "under a lady's butt" is the humiliating aspect you are seeking, which combines both domination & humiliation, depending on how it's played out (with you, taunting would be in order). There also, you need to know what you're doing to pleasure your Domme. And if she's into asses, be advised she'll want to get her hands on yours as well for some anal play.

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RE: Facesitting /objectification - 4/17/2017 5:31:19 PM   
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I have similar interests but it ain't my place or decision to make I want to be owned used and kept having no choice or opinions but to live out the rest of my life as a facesitting/smothering/pussy and ass slave/worshipper and be pimped out to other women to service them orally I addicted to it the smell the taste her juices admiring every little detail but as I much as I really really want to give complete ownership and be happy to live my life how I am meant to and would happily give up everything just make it a reality

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