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Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/6/2006 9:03:20 PM

mistoferin

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Is there written word that you have encountered that strikes your BDSM chords? Here are two of my personal favorites...both from Anais Nin:

“I do not want to be the leader. I refuse to be the leader. I want to live darkly and richly in my femaleness. I want a man lying over me, always over me. His will, his pleasure, his desire, his life, his work, his sexuality the touchstone, the command, my pivot. I don’t mind working, holding my ground intellectually, artistically; but as a woman, oh, God, as a woman I want to be dominated. I don’t mind being told to stand on my own feet, not to cling, be all that I am capable of doing, but I am going to be pursued, fucked, possessed by the will of a male at his time, his bidding.”

“I, with a deeper instinct, choose a man who compels my strength, who makes enormous demands on me, who does not doubt my courage or my toughness, who does not believe me naive or innocent, who has the courage to treat me like a woman.”

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/6/2006 9:19:55 PM

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Extremely out of context but befitting the interplay between man and women (and it must be only in my mind, because I never have got the one that gets it out of the chute):

The Bawd wrote this:

Have you the lion's part; written?
If it be, pray give it me;
for I am slow of study.

There are others, but I am reasonably unintelligible for the time being........

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/6/2006 10:18:50 PM

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"except in your honor, my lovliest, nothing may move may rest
-You bring (out of dark the earth) a procession of wonders huger than prove our fears"
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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/6/2006 10:29:26 PM

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In truth, women of today, like the Valkyries of old, want anything but to win their fight for independence: the harder they fight, the more desperately they yearn for a man to be strong enough - for their man to be strong enough to limit them and to keep them from venting their destructiveness. ~ unkown

Not sure where it is from, but it speaks to my heart

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/6/2006 10:39:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Is there written word that you have encountered that strikes your BDSM chords?

Surrender is not something that you can do. If you do it, it is not surrender, because the doer is there. Surrender is a great understanding that, "I am not." Surrender is an insight that the ego feels not, that, "I am not seperate." Surrender is not an act but an understanding." -Osho, The Heart Sutra

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/6/2006 11:13:40 PM

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The Tao Te Ching makes me think about Ds as a relationship paradigm.. here are a few words that show what I mean below:

When the world knows beauty as beauty, ugliness arises
When it knows good as good, evil arises
Thus being and non-being produce each other
Difficult and easy bring about each other
Long and short reveal each other
High and low support each other
Music and voice harmonize each other
Front and back follow each other

Here is what my submission means to me on a spiritual level...

Yield and remain whole
Bend and remain straight
Be low and become filled
Be worn out and become renewed
Have little and receive
Have much and be confused
Therefore the sages hold to the one as an example for the world
Without flaunting themselves – and so are seen clearly
Without presuming themselves – and so are distinguished
Without praising themselves – and so have merit
Without boasting about themselves – and so are lasting
Because they do not contend, the world cannot contend with them
What the ancients called "the one who yields and remains whole"
Were they speaking empty words?
Sincerity becoming whole, and returning to oneself

There are many other thoughts that the Tao gives way to that could positively impact you on your path in WIITWD

Just my thoughts

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/6/2006 11:45:48 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

Is there written word that you have encountered that strikes your BDSM chords? Here are two of my personal favorites...both from Anais Nin:

I go to the mystics. Julianna, either of the Theresas, Hildegarde; S. Weil. Any of the big ones really but I suppose I name the women first as it is just more usual for me to hear accounts of submission in a feminine voice and yet I can still learn so much from them about self-mastery.

Yeah they are a wonderful source of soundbites but I won't post any because fuck soundbites.

I cited Christian (and/or Christian-ish mystics) but dig into the mystic literature of any tradition and you can find so much more, gut wrenching testimony, lucid description, and clear-eyed exploration of surrender, mastery and submission, necessity and contingency.

The subjects involved in WIITWD are dealt with too well and too often in the best sorts of poetry of every age to name any favorites from there.

To be into BDSM and not into poetry is just wasteful.

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 12:14:50 AM

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Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte is my favorite submissive love story. The whole book especially the ending she comes back to the broken man whom she calls Master despite the fact that she is now rich and a good 'catch' if you will. Saying " in his presence I thoroughly lived" which is a wonderful statement to describe the felling one gets when happily submitting to a Master whom one respects and cares for. If your the type who feels there is a connection for the Master/Dom as well then the whole statement is "in his presence I thoroughly lived, and he in mine" which goes right along with " I know what it is to live entirely for and with what I love best on earth. . . I am my husband's life as fully as he is mine" again if you like take off the as he is mine lol what every you see fit. To sum it up the ideal that Jane a rich woman in the end comes back to her deformed Master because devoting herself to him and to his life is the only thing that makes her hole makes this my favorite piece of literature with a D/s connection.

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 12:36:43 AM

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"1984,Brave New World"

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 1:19:58 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Caretakr

"1984,Brave New World"

I'll see you your dystopian visions and raise you the operating manuals for all the power tools in my shop.

And yes, I did see "Hostel" tonight.

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 1:28:08 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah

quote:

ORIGINAL: Caretakr

"1984,Brave New World"

I'll see you your dystopian visions and raise you the operating manuals for all the power tools in my shop.

And yes, I did see "Hostel" tonight.

Tosses some Nietsche on the coin pile in response.

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 3:02:11 AM

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This is the best I can do right now:

"How do I love thee? Let me count the ways: I love thee to the depth and breadth and height my soul can reach."
- Elizabeth Barrett Browning

I know there are books that I've read that have a bdsm flair that is subtle and perhaps not intentioned by the author (but I read them in anyway). I will have to think more on this - and sleep on it. Great topic!

- Susan

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 4:21:59 AM

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Wolves which batten upon lambs, lambs consumed by wolves, the strong who immolate the weak, the weak victims of the strong: there you have Nature, there you have her intentions, there you have her scheme: a perpetual action and reaction, a host of vices, a host of virtues, in one word, a perfect equilibrium resulting from the equality of good and evil on earth.

Marquis de Sade

What woman could respect a man who is not strong enough to put her under the whip?

Love on Gor does not purchase a girl lenience; it does not mitigate her bondage, nor compromise her servitude, but rather renders it the more complete, the more helpless and abject.

John Norman

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 6:23:55 AM

mistoferin

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quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail
The Bawd wrote this:
Have you the lion's part; written?
If it be, pray give it me;
for I am slow of study.

Ok....maybe after more coffee..........

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 6:25:24 AM

mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania
Yield and remain whole
Bend and remain straight
Be low and become filled
Be worn out and become renewed
Have little and receive
Have much and be confused
Therefore the sages hold to the one as an example for the world
Without flaunting themselves – and so are seen clearly
Without presuming themselves – and so are distinguished
Without praising themselves – and so have merit
Without boasting about themselves – and so are lasting
Because they do not contend, the world cannot contend with them
What the ancients called "the one who yields and remains whole"
Were they speaking empty words?
Sincerity becoming whole, and returning to oneself

I like this julia...thanks for posting it.

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Peace and light,
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There are no victims here...only volunteers.

When you make a habit of playing on the tracks, you thereby forfeit the right to bitch when you get hit by a train.

"I did it! I admit it and I'm gonna do it again!"

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 6:45:23 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: srllile7

Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte is my favorite submissive love story. The whole book especially the ending she comes back to the broken man whom she calls Master despite the fact that she is now rich and a good 'catch' if you will. Saying " in his presence I thoroughly lived" which is a wonderful statement to describe the felling one gets when happily submitting to a Master whom one respects and cares for. If your the type who feels there is a connection for the Master/Dom as well then the whole statement is "in his presence I thoroughly lived, and he in mine" which goes right along with " I know what it is to live entirely for and with what I love best on earth. . . I am my husband's life as fully as he is mine" again if you like take off the as he is mine lol what every you see fit. To sum it up the ideal that Jane a rich woman in the end comes back to her deformed Master because devoting herself to him and to his life is the only thing that makes her hole makes this my favorite piece of literature with a D/s connection.

I love this!! I read Jane Eyre twice as a teenager. I have always wanted that kind of relationship for myself. Well, minus the tragic stuff and the crazy wife in the attic.

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 6:49:57 AM

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Without having to go and unpack them probably some of the texts and reports from a couple of the KGB publications (Translated) describing interogation techniques and detailed reports os interogations. Untill I was introduced into BDSM that was my idea of what went on. Now I look at such publications with an eye as to how to implicate them into a safe play zone and yet maintain the anticipation anf frae factors.... Probably more of a psychological theoretical study than practical.. Guess I'm a latent sadist though as when I was a kid I had access to toned down versions of interogatios and torture and used to get turned on...

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 9:28:32 AM

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"Then I saw her. She'd been out back, in the kitchen, but she came in to gather up my dishes. Except for the shape, she really wasn't any raving beauty, but she had a sulky look to her, and her lips stuck out in a way that made me want to mash them in for her."

The Postman Always Rings Twice, James M. Cain.

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"What's for breakfast? What do you say, Piglet?"
"I say, I wonder what's going to happen exciting today?"
Pooh nodded thoughtfully.
"It's the same thing," he said.

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 10:00:51 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Caretakr

quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah

quote:

ORIGINAL: Caretakr

"1984,Brave New World"

I'll see you your dystopian visions and raise you the operating manuals for all the power tools in my shop.

And yes, I did see "Hostel" tonight.

Tosses some Nietsche on the coin pile in response.

*Raises you Sartre's "No Exit"*

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RE: Literature that strikes a BDSM chord in you - 7/7/2006 10:04:37 PM

juliaoceania

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Caretakr

quote:

ORIGINAL: Noah

quote:

ORIGINAL: Caretakr

"1984,Brave New World"

I'll see you your dystopian visions and raise you the operating manuals for all the power tools in my shop.

And yes, I did see "Hostel" tonight.

Tosses some Nietsche on the coin pile in response.

My screen name is from 1984, and yes I thought Julia was very submissive to Winston....

< Message edited by juliaoceania -- 7/7/2006 10:26:35 PM >

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