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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 9/27/2014 1:58:10 PM   
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You misunderstand. I was volunteering to be part of the experiment, not one of the researchers.

But if that's the only open spot, I'll take it.

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 9/27/2014 2:01:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RockaRolla

You misunderstand. I was volunteering to be part of the experiment, not one of the researchers.

But if that's the only open spot, I'll take it.


WHOA! We're going to need some video.

Jus sayin

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 9/27/2014 2:18:48 PM   
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I'm all about electro- needles not so much.

I'd so love to play with your slave RS! And all you folks volunteering to observe and help- you are all such givers.

ETA- Rocka can come too, the more the merrier.

ETA AGAIN- Also, a larger sample size always is better for accurate results.

< Message edited by shiftyw -- 9/27/2014 2:26:23 PM >

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 9/27/2014 2:20:39 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: shiftyw

I'm all about electro- needles not so much.

I'd so love to play with your slave RS! And all you folks volunteering to observe and help- you are all such givers.


I'm magnanimous like that.

Jus sayin

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 10/29/2014 7:11:51 PM   
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Some good stuff here. Shifty I'm a switch that is unbalanced between sexes - I am a bottom only to men and a switch with women. Of course, I'm speaking of a T/b situation...

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 10/30/2014 8:30:17 AM   
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what an about face

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 10/30/2014 2:02:56 PM   
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Nevermind, misread


< Message edited by shiftyw -- 10/30/2014 2:03:53 PM >

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 12/10/2014 4:11:55 PM   
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totally doesn't matter to me.

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 12/11/2014 4:34:01 AM   
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I dominate or submit with men, but only dominate women.

My Pet dominates or submits with women, but is only submissive to men.

My new girl dominates or submits with men, but is only submissive to women.

I see it as very common.

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 12/16/2014 5:35:51 AM   
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I'm a sapiosexual, gender fluid, female bodied switch. I've only been submissive to one person in my heart, my current Master, who is male (cis-gender, masculine energy).

It should go without saying that none of this happens with anyone without conversation from one person to another as people, mutual respect, decent behavior, and a complete lack of entitlement on anyone's part.

I tend to break it down like this:
I can top or bottom in a scene situation (usually impact play, usually at a play party) with any sex, gender, or orientation, if we get along well and both want to.
I can act submissively to varying degrees in non-sexual situations with any sex, gender, or orientation if we both want that.
I can be dominant with any sex, gender, or orientation, as long as they aren't a do-me sub (from experience it's not just males), and as long as we both want that.

Sexually, it's a different story: (assuming mutual attraction, consent, etc.)
I will sexually top any sex, gender, or orientation.
I will sexually bottom for any energy in male bodied people.
I will only sexually top feminine energy in female bodied people.
I will consider sexually bottoming for masculine energy in female bodied people, but to be honest it hasn't happened yet.

The simpler version is that I don't generally have an attraction to female bodied people giving me sexual pleasure, but I very much enjoy giving it to them, if they enjoy it.

There are exceptions, of course, but that's usually what it tends to break down to.

Sorry for the confusion of terms, but I have a difficult time discussing gender in a binary way, especially since so many of the people in my life, both intimately and as friends, do not conform to a binary gender, and neither do I. If anyone wants me to clear any of that up, please feel free to let me know.

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 12/16/2014 5:51:34 AM   
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Hi, GypsySuccubus. Welcome to the forums!

I'm a straight Dominant cismale. Nice and simple.

Your type of pansexual genderfluid situation is becoming more common. It DOES make life more polychromatic and less black and white, but I just wish the labels for it were more simple!

Welcome again.

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 12/16/2014 7:44:13 AM   
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Thanks, DarkSteven :)

Yeah, it's hard to describe things a lot of the time, especially when attempting to generalize in a specialized area, but I tried to use terms (even if some of them are unusual) that I figured would make sense without having to google everything if someone reading it didn't know what I was trying to say. And of course I'm always happy to try and explain details of certain things, I just didn't want to come by and drop a novel on everybody, heh.

Be seeing you around, DarkSteven, and thanks again :)

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 5/29/2015 3:13:19 PM   
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I'm into men only, so no.

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 5/29/2015 3:38:27 PM   
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I go by a person to person basis, guys I've found a couple to submit to, girls never. But I think that probably has a lot to do with being straight, and since I only ever end up submitting in long standing relationships. I'm not likely to get into a relationship with a girl that might eventually develop that way. I've hung out with both dominant and submissive women but there is never any intense power struggle.

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 6/2/2015 4:08:00 AM   
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The only thing is I feel sadist only to women...

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 6/9/2015 4:30:40 AM   
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Feeling kinda rusty on the forum side here ;) I identify as a Lesbian Switch Female... I have no issues in submitting to those that are worthy of my submission, but I only fully submit to Females... Sure, I have Doms(VERY FEW) in which we have a platonic relationship. But based upon simple roles that "just fit", and respects that have been earned and trusted between each other, in a sense, I am submissive towards some males... But, in the same sense, I have had quite a few males that are submissive to me. Mainly in a non-sexual aspect, or maybe because I Domme their wife or girlfriend. I just see it as all the more fun as long as there's a mutual understanding between each party and a constant respect level.

So just to round my point up here, as a Lesbian Switch female, I can "play around" with males here and there.. but, when I Choose to submit, it is always, and forever will be under the hand of a Domme. *smiles*

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 8/18/2015 1:49:58 PM   
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I am an infinite being, re-splendid in slippers, who feels nothing at all for almost all, and views all with varying degrees of curiosity – I have never claimed to be undamaged and once i believed i was a muffin. Yet I have the capacity to love cats, cheap chardonnay, and the humble muffin.

Should I encounter a delicious, woebegone, wretched urchin, which happens, albeit It rarely, I feel exactly the same way as I always do.

Your kind exist in a perpetually confused state. Perhaps you will always feel exactly the same way as thee do. People cannot change they are fixed, forever. No exceptions, ever.

Perhaps just be wonders if that is a good answer

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 8/18/2015 2:00:08 PM   
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Kneel Vs. Gender?

Wonders what this means and who will win and what glorious bounty shall be won, perhaps cherished, even scoffed and who are we experimenting on - looks out his vile, odious, implements of torture, Howard Jones album, knobkerrie, - i think they should bring back the stocks (pillary) so i may do something useful with all food not cake

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 8/18/2015 3:24:41 PM   
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Gender, no. Individual, yes.

For example, I recently met a female sub friend of a friend. I instantly took a more leading domme-esque stance in how we relate to one another. Yet with our mutual male friend, I don't submit to him but neither do I get the urge to dominate him. Aside from my Master, there is only one male individual who gets my respect and deference, even if not my complete submission in a sexual or non-sexual context; that dynamic is more grounded in a shared interest than it is D/s, although it does play something of a part. However there are also women who have dispositions and personalities to whom I feel comfortable following, rather than getting the desire to butt heads or 'challenge'.

So for me, it depends entirely on the person and their particular personality and gravitas.

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RE: Kneel Vs. Gender? - 12/21/2015 3:17:51 PM   
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I am a big fan of genuine - single or married and cake, cheap Chardonnay and cat vet vouchers for millions

at best you are a fractured attention whore and dishonest imo a typical bad stereotype on these places

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