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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/29/2014 8:51:06 PM   
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Well, there is that. But I've got one book I'm almost done reading, boxes of books (and I do mean plenty o' boxes) of unread tomes, as well as several unread books downloaded onto my e-reader. I'm amazed I even have the time to read a label, let alone read the free book. And the free book you speak of? Hey, it's going to the bottom of the list. After the labels. After the shampoo instructions. And even then I think I'll find something else I'd rather read first.

*ahem*

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Unless you already read Orwell's Animal Farm, and simply missed the reference (transformation to totalitarianism after a successful people's revolution), and don't have it somewhere in the "to read" stack, you'll be poorer for it. It's a fairy tale allegory, and a quick read.

thought it was a tangent that might get us back around to the original topic of whether a riot can be an effective tool.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/29/2014 9:03:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

Well, there is that. But I've got one book I'm almost done reading, boxes of books (and I do mean plenty o' boxes) of unread tomes, as well as several unread books downloaded onto my e-reader. I'm amazed I even have the time to read a label, let alone read the free book. And the free book you speak of? Hey, it's going to the bottom of the list. After the labels. After the shampoo instructions. And even then I think I'll find something else I'd rather read first.

*ahem*

:D



Unless you already read Orwell's Animal Farm, and simply missed the reference (transformation to totalitarianism after a successful people's revolution), and don't have it somewhere in the "to read" stack, you'll be poorer for it. It's a fairy tale allegory, and a quick read.

thought it was a tangent that might get us back around to the original topic of whether a riot can be an effective tool.

It would seem that rioting only confirms the most negative thoughts about whatever group the rioters claim to represent.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/29/2014 9:18:00 PM   
TheHeretic


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It would seem that rioting only confirms the most negative thoughts about whatever group the rioters claim to represent.



It depends on what you mean by negative thoughts. That's very subjective. Here, the protesters had the wrong poster child, and the wrong demands, and the most damaging negative thought was that they were dumbasses. The fires didn't affect that much. With calculated demands, the violence provoking fear could be considered a real positive.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/29/2014 9:21:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

Well, there is that. But I've got one book I'm almost done reading, boxes of books (and I do mean plenty o' boxes) of unread tomes, as well as several unread books downloaded onto my e-reader. I'm amazed I even have the time to read a label, let alone read the free book. And the free book you speak of? Hey, it's going to the bottom of the list. After the labels. After the shampoo instructions. And even then I think I'll find something else I'd rather read first.

*ahem*

:D



Unless you already read Orwell's Animal Farm, and simply missed the reference (transformation to totalitarianism after a successful people's revolution), and don't have it somewhere in the "to read" stack, you'll be poorer for it. It's a fairy tale allegory, and a quick read.

thought it was a tangent that might get us back around to the original topic of whether a riot can be an effective tool.



I'm so sorry! I just am not going to get subtle references when I'm in a whimsical mood. :)

And yes, I've read the book you mentioned. Years ago. I couldn't provide the details if you threatened to whip me mercilessly. Of course...I am a masochist so those kinds of threats aren't usually that productive. ;)

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/29/2014 9:24:37 PM   
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It would seem that rioting only confirms the most negative thoughts about whatever group the rioters claim to represent.


I've never pictured rioters as being a group. A mob, yes, but not so much a group being represented.

Toe-may-toe, toe-ma-to...to each their own as far as definitions go.

I gotta jet. The gym may be open 24 hours, but I am not likely to want to be there later than I have to be.

Later gator! ;)

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/29/2014 9:39:35 PM   
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It would seem that rioting only confirms the most negative thoughts about whatever group the rioters claim to represent.


I've never pictured rioters as being a group. A mob, yes, but not so much a group being represented.

Toe-may-toe, toe-ma-to...to each their own as far as definitions go.

I gotta jet. The gym may be open 24 hours, but I am not likely to want to be there later than I have to be.

Later gator! ;)

Please note that I said the group they claim to represent.
I agree that they are a mob but the "cause" that is given as an excuse for their actions is tainted by the actions of the mob.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/29/2014 9:42:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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It would seem that rioting only confirms the most negative thoughts about whatever group the rioters claim to represent.



It depends on what you mean by negative thoughts. That's very subjective. Here, the protesters had the wrong poster child, and the wrong demands, and the most damaging negative thought was that they were dumbasses. The fires didn't affect that much. With calculated demands, the violence provoking fear could be considered a real positive.

If is already thought to be lawless and a mob riots in their name it reinforces that image. In a case like Ferguson with 60% of the population it would be far better to simply vote and get the people you want doing the things you want.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/29/2014 9:44:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

It would seem that rioting only confirms the most negative thoughts about whatever group the rioters claim to represent.



It depends on what you mean by negative thoughts. That's very subjective. Here, the protesters had the wrong poster child, and the wrong demands, and the most damaging negative thought was that they were dumbasses. The fires didn't affect that much. With calculated demands, the violence provoking fear could be considered a real positive.

I would also point out that rioters foul their own nest. They burn their own neighborhoods and run off the businesses that have been serving them.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/30/2014 5:18:02 AM   
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Tell me exactly what Johnson is alleged to have done to constitute felony murder. Stop vague assertions give specifics. You don't go up for felony murder for shooting your mouth up. I notice that you refuse to say that Johnson is even alleged to have laid a hand on Wilson. Tell us exactly what Johnson is accused of doing.

When you admit once and for all that you have not read Wilson's testimony which you claimed to have done. Because he says explicitly what Johnson did in his testimony and if you are such an expert on the law you'd know what it was.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/30/2014 7:26:42 AM   
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Just knuckleheads starting nonsense

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/30/2014 7:31:38 AM   
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This is helping things

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/30/2014 7:39:22 AM   
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Sixteen people were arrested on the lot and police say they still do not know who is responsible for firing numerous gunshots at the location...

Read more: http://www.kmov.com/news/editors-pick/Pregnant-woman-loses-left-eye-during-protests--284108551.html#ixzz3KZCPz5iR


Just a couple of knuckleheads is all

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/30/2014 7:49:49 AM   
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oh thats ok then...

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/30/2014 9:22:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Tell me exactly what Johnson is alleged to have done to constitute felony murder. Stop vague assertions give specifics. You don't go up for felony murder for shooting your mouth up. I notice that you refuse to say that Johnson is even alleged to have laid a hand on Wilson. Tell us exactly what Johnson is accused of doing.

When you admit once and for all that you have not read Wilson's testimony which you claimed to have done. Because he says explicitly what Johnson did in his testimony and if you are such an expert on the law you'd know what it was.

I never said I had read Wilson's testimony. I said that if he had claimed that Johnson assaulted him it would be all over the media. Now you tell me exactly what you think Johnson was accused of.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/30/2014 9:41:20 AM   
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Instead of pointing out new targets for him, Bama, why not ask Ken why he won't wipe off the blackface, and take off the minstrel costume? He's just trying to dance on the grave as long as he can.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 11/30/2014 12:23:11 PM   
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Instead of pointing out new targets for him, Bama, why not ask Ken why he won't wipe off the blackface, and take off the minstrel costume? He's just trying to dance on the grave as long as he can.

I like to keep him talking, it makes his side look bad.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 12/1/2014 1:53:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Tell me exactly what Johnson is alleged to have done to constitute felony murder. Stop vague assertions give specifics. You don't go up for felony murder for shooting your mouth up. I notice that you refuse to say that Johnson is even alleged to have laid a hand on Wilson. Tell us exactly what Johnson is accused of doing.

When you admit once and for all that you have not read Wilson's testimony which you claimed to have done. Because he says explicitly what Johnson did in his testimony and if you are such an expert on the law you'd know what it was.

I never said I had read Wilson's testimony. I said that if he had claimed that Johnson assaulted him it would be all over the media. Now you tell me exactly what you think Johnson was accused of.

You claimed repeatedly to know what Wilson testified. How could that be true if you didn't read his testimony? Even in this exchange you've stated that you know details of what Wilson testified.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 12/1/2014 1:55:32 PM   
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Instead of pointing out new targets for him, Bama, why not ask Ken why he won't wipe off the blackface, and take off the minstrel costume? He's just trying to dance on the grave as long as he can.

You're getting tiresome. You need to sober up and return to reality.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 12/1/2014 1:59:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD

Tell me exactly what Johnson is alleged to have done to constitute felony murder. Stop vague assertions give specifics. You don't go up for felony murder for shooting your mouth up. I notice that you refuse to say that Johnson is even alleged to have laid a hand on Wilson. Tell us exactly what Johnson is accused of doing.

When you admit once and for all that you have not read Wilson's testimony which you claimed to have done. Because he says explicitly what Johnson did in his testimony and if you are such an expert on the law you'd know what it was.

I never said I had read Wilson's testimony. I said that if he had claimed that Johnson assaulted him it would be all over the media. Now you tell me exactly what you think Johnson was accused of.

You claimed repeatedly to know what Wilson testified. How could that be true if you didn't read his testimony? Even in this exchange you've stated that you know details of what Wilson testified.

No I didn't I said that if he had accused Johnson of laying a hand on him the press would have covered it extensively. I have since found his testimony and he didn't say a word about Johnson assaulting him, just that he was there and mouthy.
So now you tell us what you want us to believe he claimed Johnson did to assault him.

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