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Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged countries?


US airports should have closed airports from Ebola ravaged countries.
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The US should immediately close airports from Ebola ravished countries
  38% (17)
We should never close airports from any country.
  11% (5)
What the hell is going to happen next in this country?
  4% (2)
I could care less, until the US has at least 100 cases of Ebola
  6% (3)
I am not worried, I will never get Ebola.
  4% (2)
I am worried, and I have no idea what I should do.
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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/31/2014 4:07:39 PM   
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Except that Ebola is not airborne, and is not being spread by people biting each other.

Fear of Ebola, though, is being spread by willful ignorance and bizarre misinformation. I'm thinking policy probably should go for a more fact-based approach.


Bizarre misinformation, spread by the CDC.

Huh? are you having trouble reading?

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/31/2014 4:21:00 PM   
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What part dont you understand dk

Obamas political organization known as the CDC was spreading the word that Ebola is spread through coughing and sneezing and casual contacts with such items as doorknobs




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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/31/2014 4:23:41 PM   
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oh ffs...LMAO shark jumping tonite.
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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/31/2014 4:53:15 PM   
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Australia's act is criticized as being very selfish. I guess it's one of those things. If there is a Zombie Apocalypse, spread by a virus, and it may not be airborne, and could be through liquids, so the zombie actually has to bite you to spread to you, and if there is a 3 weeks incubation period before someone shows up if they got zombified or not, should countries allow all the non-zombiefied people in from Zombie virus ridden countries to save them, or completely close their borders and screw all the countries with zombie problems, and shut everybody out.

We already know Australia's reaction to that.

Except that Ebola is not airborne, and is not being spread by people biting each other.

Fear of Ebola, though, is being spread by willful ignorance and bizarre misinformation. I'm thinking policy probably should go for a more fact-based approach.



I understand the science of it, as far as we know, anyway, and I am not under any misconception that I might catch Ebola from, say, standing in line at a grocery store behind someone who is infected. (Provided I keep my hands to myself, etc.)

The reason why I am in favor of quarantine and/or restricting visas is because I don't believe that people can be trusted to self-monitor and self-quarantine. We've already seen instances in which people flew and went out among groups of people when they were not feeling well. The subjective nature of determining when someone isn't feeling well is what concerns me. We've seen the CDC make mistakes about this, and we've seen people err in their own judgment. And information and direction has changed enough times for me to feel that we are still learning. Which is fine! This is the first time we are dealing with this disease on our shores and even though we've dealt with this type of disease, this one is new to us. Yes, I'm thankful that our structure is different than Africa's, but it is indeed also different. So this is new territory, and the CDC has not given me any reason to think otherwise. Again, this is fine. Not knowing everything is fine. Acting like we do is the problem that will bite us in the ass.

My fear is not that I will drive through the state of Maine and catch Ebola from Ms. Hickox. My fear is that we as a people will fuck this up with our arrogance. It's difficult for me to understand why somebody wouldn't take every reasonable precaution to prevent even the most remote possibility of transmission of something that we haven't quite gotten a handle on yet. Then there is the argument that being quarantined while well is not reasonable. Again, I find that difficult to understand when I see workers clad head-to-toe in protective gear to inspect an airplane that the public is told we are safe to fly on. "Reasonable" is, again, subjective. So I am in favor of restricting visas and quarantining those that have worked with Ebola patients.

The CDC and WHO have seemed to change things a lot since the start of this whole thing. I do understand that partly why they do that may be in response to public fear and how to best word things so as not to induce panic. But part of it is also finding things out as we go. For example, I think that those who suspect that possibly Ebola may not be as contagious early on as we originally thought might be right. But, we are still finding things out. Why can't we just admit that and keep people quarantined and the disease contained until we know more? That, to me, is a reasonable precaution.

I don't feel like I'm trembling in fear or expecting anything unreasonable. I am not panicked. (Anymore.) It just seems to make sense. What am I missing? I would love to be convinced that I'm wrong, as it seems the courts will not agree.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 10/31/2014 6:43:22 PM   
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Except that Ebola is not airborne, and is not being spread by people biting each other.

Fear of Ebola, though, is being spread by willful ignorance and bizarre misinformation. I'm thinking policy probably should go for a more fact-based approach.


Bizarre misinformation, spread by the CDC.

Yeah, he was trying to wipe out all the non-muslims so he could write an executive order establishing Shira law and voiding the Constitution, all through the CDC, until you stumbled upon his plan and thwarted it.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 8:12:10 AM   
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oh ffs...LMAO shark jumping tonite.
Gets the popcorn



While waiting and waiting for a halfway intelligent reply to my posting that link and bit of the information from the article cited, I am sure your imaginary popcorn would have become stale and quite cold if it were real



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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 8:24:19 AM   
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oh ffs...LMAO shark jumping tonite.
Gets the popcorn



While waiting and waiting for a halfway intelligent reply to my posting that link and bit of the information from the article cited, I am sure your imaginary popcorn would have become stale and quite cold if it were real





There is possible and probable. The two are not synonymous. How many people in the United States have gotten Ebola from a doorknob. I know there are many doorknobs saying stupid shit about it, but that is their political arm of nutsuckerism.



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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 8:25:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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oh ffs...LMAO shark jumping tonite.
Gets the popcorn



While waiting and waiting for a halfway intelligent reply to my posting that link and bit of the information from the article cited, I am sure your imaginary popcorn would have become stale and quite cold if it were real







When and if you make a sensible statement of fact...you might get an answer
However given the actual statement you made ....you will keep waiting, but get comfy..you dont want rhoids.
Not sure theres room for them and your head

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 9:13:11 AM   
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What part dont you understand dk

Obamas political organization known as the CDC was spreading the word that Ebola is spread through coughing and sneezing and casual contacts with such items as doorknobs

You have lost the last bit of contact you had with reality. Please ask the nurse to increase your dosage again.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 9:14:12 AM   
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Colder, and more stale now

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 10:58:20 AM   
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Please return to the topic. I have already left a message on this thread.

Not every thread in the Dungeon/Feisty section is going to go to pages and pages of attacks between the same people, especially when I have limited the number of threads we can have on Ebola.

Please don't make me get forceful.

Thank you

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 11:14:49 AM   
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Obama came out against states placing civilian medical staff who have been directly exposed to the virus under quarantine, while the Pentagon which reports directly to him has ordered a quarantine for all troops returning from W. Africa





They act like they don't have a clue.


Some do have clues

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 1:30:26 PM   
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It's now coast-to-coast. http://www.kptv.com/story/27178496/portland-woman-being-monitored-for-ebola-taken-to-providence-milwaukie-hospital

Just peachy.

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A Portland woman who recently visited Africa and was being monitored for Ebola developed a sustained fever Friday, leading paramedics to take her to Providence Milwaukie Hospital to be put in isolation at about 1 p.m.

Read more: http://www.kptv.com/story/27178496/portland-woman-being-monitored-for-ebola-taken-to-providence-milwaukie-hospital#ixzz3HqogapF4


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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 2:46:02 PM   
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It's now coast-to-coast. http://www.kptv.com/story/27178496/portland-woman-being-monitored-for-ebola-taken-to-providence-milwaukie-hospital

Just peachy.

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A Portland woman who recently visited Africa and was being monitored for Ebola developed a sustained fever Friday, leading paramedics to take her to Providence Milwaukie Hospital to be put in isolation at about 1 p.m.

Read more: http://www.kptv.com/story/27178496/portland-woman-being-monitored-for-ebola-taken-to-providence-milwaukie-hospital#ixzz3HqogapF4


Sounds like its another health care worker who has returned to the US who was diligently monitoring their status and went into isolation as soon as they developed symptoms. There are literally hundreds of such workers in the US and so far there have been a total of 2 develop Ebola after returning to the US and none have spread the infection to anyone else.

This is the dumbest panic ever.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 6:27:42 PM   
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Soundss like its another health care worker who has returned to the US who was diligently monitoring their status and went into isolation as soon as they developed symptoms. There are literally hundreds of such workers in the US and so far there have been a total of 2 develop Ebola after returning to the US and none have spread the infection to anyone else.

This is the dumbest panic ever.


This is an example of what you and many others do on here.
Project things that no-one is saying.

Projection, pointing fingers, putting others down, gets so boring around here, it is why many just don't bother posting.

I have seen NO-ONE on these boards that is in a panic.
I have not seen anyone in general who is in a panic.

I will never understand why people put so much time and energy attempting "poo-poo" what others want to discuss.
I do understand it speaks volumes for the several people on this thread, that feel compelled to do it over and over again.

Peace

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 6:54:23 PM   
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Soundss like its another health care worker who has returned to the US who was diligently monitoring their status and went into isolation as soon as they developed symptoms. There are literally hundreds of such workers in the US and so far there have been a total of 2 develop Ebola after returning to the US and none have spread the infection to anyone else.

This is the dumbest panic ever.


This is an example of what you and many others do on here.
Project things that no-one is saying.

Projection, pointing fingers, putting others down, gets so boring around here, it is why many just don't bother posting.

I have seen NO-ONE on these boards that is in a panic.
I have not seen anyone in general who is in a panic.

I will never understand why people put so much time and energy attempting "poo-poo" what others want to discuss.
I do understand it speaks volumes for the several people on this thread, that feel compelled to do it over and over again.

Peace

This thread is 18 pages long. Every news show in the country devotes considerable time to every possible case in a country of 330 million people. A nurse who definitely was not sick was forced to fight in court to not be locked in a tent in a hospital parking lot for 3 weeks. The same nurse taking a bike ride was cause for national news coverage, another court fight and hysterical overreaction.What do you call all of this?

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 7:23:02 PM   
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I am not going to keep repeating myself to people who do not want to "get it".

THIS thread was started as a discussion, of whether we should close US airports from Ebola ravished countries.
People such as yourself ALWAYS change the focus to fit their agenda's.
I am very selective when I post on these boards, because I know how it goes around here.


I have only seen one person post who appeared to be in a panic, and he has disappeared.

I see no-one here in hysterics nor in a panic.

Carry on

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 8:07:31 PM   
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I am not going to keep repeating myself to people who do not want to "get it".

THIS thread was started as a discussion, of whether we should close US airports from Ebola ravished countries.
People such as yourself ALWAYS change the focus to fit their agenda's.
I am very selective when I post on these boards, because I know how it goes around here.


I have only seen one person post who appeared to be in a panic, and he has disappeared.

I see no-one here in hysterics nor in a panic.

Carry on


He is trying to draw attention away from the official changing narrative of "it will not come to the US" to "It is not going to spread." Kind of like when ISIS was called JV. If it is pointed out, it must be panic.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 8:17:20 PM   
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I am not going to keep repeating myself to people who do not want to "get it".

THIS thread was started as a discussion, of whether we should close US airports from Ebola ravished countries.
People such as yourself ALWAYS change the focus to fit their agenda's.
I am very selective when I post on these boards, because I know how it goes around here.


I have only seen one person post who appeared to be in a panic, and he has disappeared.

I see no-one here in hysterics nor in a panic.

Carry on


He is trying to draw attention away from the official changing narrative of "it will not come to the US" to "It is not going to spread." Kind of like when ISIS was called JV. If it is pointed out, it must be panic.

To some "panic" is just a way to dismiss anyone who doesn't see things their way. It may spread, it may not, but don't we owe it to ourselves to take precautions to see to it that we don't get a pandemic here? Aren't too few precautions more costly in both human and financial terms? After all if it saves just one life.

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RE: Should the US close airports from Ebola ravaged cou... - 11/1/2014 9:37:29 PM   
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I am not going to keep repeating myself to people who do not want to "get it".

THIS thread was started as a discussion, of whether we should close US airports from Ebola ravished countries.
People such as yourself ALWAYS change the focus to fit their agenda's.
I am very selective when I post on these boards, because I know how it goes around here.


I have only seen one person post who appeared to be in a panic, and he has disappeared.

I see no-one here in hysterics nor in a panic.

Carry on

There are no flights from those west African countries to US airports so the thread was always entirely pointless. And there are several posters here who are clearly panicking about this. I've had to point out several times such basic facts as Ebola is not airborne because various posters keep posting that it is.

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