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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

Sounds like the doctors are thinking about themselves and what it might mean to them. I say to freedomdwarf1 poppycock! It is well known that diseases are unable to thrive after their effectiveness is diminished below a certain threshold and such measures though not perfect, don't need to be perfect in order to be effective.

Well then Einstein, how do you explain that a hospital worker, fully kitted up with only 2 visits to an Ebola patient and had very little contact, managed to contract Ebola in Spain???
She had never been to Africa or been in contact with anyone else with Ebola, is now in a very bad state in isolation at a Madrid hospital.

It has baffled doctors and health officials as to how she contracted Ebola when she had apparently followed all the protocols and was "fully protected" at all times.
The speculation is that the Ebola virus is able to survive on surfaces long enough to infect someone else when they come into contact with it.

Maybe the doctors in the US aren't up to speed with the developments???
It would appear that this woman has defied all the logic and safety procedures that doctors considered as "safe".
So.... what was thought of as safe, obviously isn't.

Care to comment??

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ORIGINAL: lilponytail
It's a human rights and political nightmare. Who would exclude travel from "third world" countries but allow it from "developed" countries?
This city I'm from, Toronto, is obviously not going to be on a banned to travel list. We went through SARS and the outcome of that was the inclusion of alcohol-based hand cleansers everywhere, and notes to contact authorities if you suffer fever, cough, etc. They installed special fever-detecting monitors at the airport and then it was all forgotten.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: sloguy02246

Refusing to accept flights originating from airports in those countries would not solve the problem.
Flights from countries with Ebola outbreaks could still fly to other countries, where the passengers could then board flights to here.

E.g., a flight leaves Liberia and lands in Lisbon, Portugal.
Passenger then boards a new flight from Lisbon to Miami.

But wouldn't that person have a Liberian passport? All passport activity could be looked at to determine risk, no? Why wouldn't we look at individual passport activity, rather than just the origin of the flight?

And what about aid workers that don't originate from said hot-spots but from elsewhere?
They wouldn't have a Liberian passport.

So where does that leave you?
The only way to be sure is to quarantine every person from every flight for a minimum of 4 weeks.

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

The problem apparently has to do with how long does it survive outside of a host? Why don't we have an answer to this yet?

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ORIGINAL: lilponytail

Hanta virus which flourishes in the desert southwest states of the USA is also a killer threat. It most often claims victims from the Navajo and other Native communities who live in this area.
There are killer viruses right here.

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

Have we managed to collect all the germaphobes in one place? On one hand the germaphobes and on the other the recovering germaphobes.

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

Sounds like the doctors are thinking about themselves and what it might mean to them.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Well, the doctors disagree with you.

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko
But passport activity would tell someone that an aid worker has been in Liberia, no? Even if a person doesn't have a passport from one of the stricken countries, passport activity should show where they've been and when.

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko
If we're laying out entire plans, then here's my plan. No travel out of those countries at all - to anywhere. Unless for an aid worker that has gone to help. Because they really, really need help and I wouldn't want to discourage people from helping because they think they can't get back. But the aid worker should be in a quarantine before they are released to the general public wherever they land first, even if it's not their ultimate destination.

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko
Surely we can't have that many leisure travelers from those three countries that our economy would collapse due to these travel restrictions. And yes, quarantines for aid workers would be expensive but they can't be any more expensive than the possible exorbitant medical costs of caring for more people with Ebola.

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ORIGINAL: lilponytail

Who would exclude travel from "third world" countries but allow it from "developed" countries?

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When dried in tissue culture media onto glass and stored at 4 °C, Zaire ebolavirus survived for over 50 days.

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Early supportive care with rehydration, symptomatic treatment improves survival.

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It has also spread between countries starting in Guinea then spreading across land borders to Sierra Leone and Liberia, by air (1 traveller only) to Nigeria, and by land (1 traveller) to Senegal.