FieryOpal
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Joined: 12/8/2013 From: Maryland Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: NookieNotes There are things my Pet does not like. But he never "suffers" in a way that he would describe as such.... If my Pet felt he "suffered" more than 5% of the time with me, then I would say we were incompatible, and release him. Not because I don't like to torture him, but because it should be torture that aligns with either my pleasure, or our goals for our relationship or his betterment. .... And if they enjoy it, is it really suffering? AAkasha, I wasn't going to post on this thread because I'm not a sadist, and I don't deal with masochists. But in reading other posters, I do want to address a couple of issues, if you don't mind. Nookie, I chose to quote you because I truly feel that my sub should NEVER feel he is suffering for me. In fact, I want both of our cups to be overflowing. I'm not talking about typical vanilla relationship-type sacrifices that partners make for one another. If 5% of the time, my sub is NEUTRAL, then I can live with that. 95% of the time, I want him to want what I want, and vice versa. I just can't see an intimate, committed relationship any other way, D/s or no D/s dynamic. The other issue has to do with this sadism thing. I personally know one and of another Sadist who deliberately don't want a masochistic partner. The reason is simple and OP's post echoes this as well. They are Sadists. They WANT their partner to suffer and to show their devotion by tolerating pain. Both consider themselves to be kind, Sensual Sadists. But they don't want their partner enjoying the pain they inflict. IF I were a Sadist, I would consider this to be unethical, despite prior communications and disclosures. But I'm not, so I am in no position to judge. If I were Sadistic, I would call myself a Sado-masochist, to clearly indicate that it is BOTH components which are being melded together on a mutually pleasurable, consensual basis.
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