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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/12/2015 7:54:10 AM   
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I do get the sense that there's a polarisation going on: black people getting more and more angry about police who seem to have got away with brutal treatment, versus cops who are getting more and more angry about their authority being so picked apart in the media. What's been happening in the USA over the last few years has been making me think of Spike Lee's 'Do the Right Thing', over and again.

Jeez. Policing only works by consent. The words 'thin blue line' and the notion of 'police *services* are crucially borne in mind by all sides, I would say.


It's sad, but the left has been using the black community for fifty years. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton as race batters and welfare pimps. Leftist politicians telling them vote for me and I'll give you more free stuff. Then implementing silly Marxist policies that haven't worked anywhere. The dialog that Eric Holder should have had was why the black community believe "more" of the policies the left have foisted on them for fifty years will have any different effect.

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RE: . - 6/17/2015 5:39:23 AM   
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Well that's a loaded question. I don't believe they are. I do believe however that they're on one big power trip where they feel as though they can do anything and get away with it. Sort of "I am the law so bow to me bitch or die" mentality. There's still good cops. But they're being greatly overshadowed by the bad cops. My problem is they can kill someone and it seems to be no big deal. But let somebody kill one of them and there's such an outpouring of grief and sympathy. What makes their lives so much more important?


Yeah well even if you kill a K9 unit its the same as killing a cop now. If I am running from the law, which I cant see why I would as I don't call attn to myself very often. But if I were & a dog is after me, I am in fear of my life so fuck the dog! If it has to die, tough shit! The down side to this other then the poor dog having to die is that by passing this law they have made it more likely that someone will not stop with the dog & take out a few cops too. I mean if I am going to prison by god I am going to make it worth my time & it wont just be for a god damn dog!

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RE: . - 6/17/2015 5:57:51 AM   
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Well that's a loaded question. I don't believe they are. I do believe however that they're on one big power trip where they feel as though they can do anything and get away with it. Sort of "I am the law so bow to me bitch or die" mentality. There's still good cops. But they're being greatly overshadowed by the bad cops. My problem is they can kill someone and it seems to be no big deal. But let somebody kill one of them and there's such an outpouring of grief and sympathy. What makes their lives so much more important?


Yeah well even if you kill a K9 unit its the same as killing a cop now. If I am running from the law, which I cant see why I would as I don't call attn to myself very often. But if I were & a dog is after me, I am in fear of my life so fuck the dog! If it has to die, tough shit! The down side to this other then the poor dog having to die is that by passing this law they have made it more likely that someone will not stop with the dog & take out a few cops too. I mean if I am going to prison by god I am going to make it worth my time & it wont just be for a god damn dog!


An who decided that "If you kill a K9 unit it is the same as killing a police officer?" We did! Society, through laws. I know that is a bit hard of a concept to wrap your brain around. We elected people to public office, whom created a bill, stating among other things, "killing a police K9 unit will be given harsh penalties". That bill become law and has been upheld in the courts ever since.

The ONLY time the handler releases a K9 into action is when the individual is....RESISTING....arrest by forceful or violent means. So if your running away when the K9 handler yells 'Stop', your an idiot. You have a choice when dealing with the K9 handler during a police action: obey instruction or be dog food!

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RE: are american cops on a witch hunt against blacks? - 6/17/2015 6:15:17 AM   
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I do get the sense that there's a polarisation going on: black people getting more and more angry about police who seem to have got away with brutal treatment, versus cops who are getting more and more angry about their authority being so picked apart in the media. What's been happening in the USA over the last few years has been making me think of Spike Lee's 'Do the Right Thing', over and again.

Jeez. Policing only works by consent. The words 'thin blue line' and the notion of 'police *services* are crucially borne in mind by all sides, I would say.


It's sad, but the left has been using the black community for fifty years. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton as race batters and welfare pimps. Leftist politicians telling them vote for me and I'll give you more free stuff. Then implementing silly Marxist policies that haven't worked anywhere. The dialog that Eric Holder should have had was why the black community believe "more" of the policies the left have foisted on them for fifty years will have any different effect.


It's sad, but the right have been using the white-trash-maybe-a-1%'er-if-I-win-the-powerball. Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck are culture batters and ring wing shills. Rightwing politicians telling them to vote for me and I'll give you more freedoms (but dont). Then implementing silly rightwing conspiracies that haven't worked anywhere (or at any time, like 'Trickle Down' Theory). The dialog that Lindsay Graham should have had was why the white trash believe "more" of the guns the right have foisted on them for fifty years will have any different effect.

Yeah, I basically used your bullshit above, taking certain things out and inputting other ideas to arrive at the same concept from the direct opposite.

The problem here is there exist people whom are very intelligent and well studied, whom have no morals about manipulating people for their own political ends. These individuals know the 'Low Information Voter' very well. Knows what their hopes, dreams, ideas and yes, their fears in very defining context. These people push the media down very ugly places; sometimes without knowing it until everything is over (and to late).

For every video you can find of some police officer behaving bad, I could (with time and research) find....why...that officer behaved the way they did. Often we have many videos that start...AFTER....some crucial or critical piece of evidence/event has transpired. The holding of the video may be honest and stated events as factually and truthfully known; but I've seen many such videos in which the holder of the camera left critical information out that would place things in context.

That you think police are more likely to be evil than good, simply shows your perception of reality, and reality, are two very different things. Police officers are held to a very high level of accountability and responsibility. Often having to make very tough decisions within the span of a few seconds. What would most people do if placed in such situations without the training and practice these officers are required to show?

I give police officers the benefit of the doubt....unless....there is compelling evidence that might show otherwise. The police have a duty to not lose faith with the community they serve. At the same time its the duty of the community to stay rational, calm, and have patience when things do operate normally. When 'shit hits the fan', the matter has to be investigated. An its for the good citizens to sit down, examine everything and make tough decisions on how to proceed.

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RE: . - 6/17/2015 8:09:11 AM   
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Yeah what ever...

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