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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 9/30/2015 8:27:22 PM

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My guess would be gangs and drugs, that is what happened here.

Guessing seems to be something you do a lot of without much success. Here is a quick overview of the why.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruitt%E2%80%93Igoe

It was crime ridden. You failed to read anything but segregated. So my guess was accurate.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 9/30/2015 8:38:16 PM

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Bama it was a hell hole...a concentration of criminals where even the police would not go at night. The linked article by Tom fails to mention the pipes pulled from the walls... windows broken...repairmen had to enter with police escorts or their tools were stolen... The article did mention muggers in the stairwells did it not... how many articles of the kind have ever mentioned muggers in the stairwells? They could not keep air conditioners in the windows because they were stolen as soon as they were installed. It was impossible to maintain when it was inhabited by people that did not give a crap about their community or each other.... The area is still a wasteland and a testament to the failure of public housing in inner cities.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 9/30/2015 8:44:06 PM

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Bama it was a hell hole...a concentration of criminals where even the police would not go at night. The linked article by Tom fails to mention the pipes pulled from the walls... windows broken...repairmen had to enter with police escorts or their tools were stolen... The article did mention muggers in the stairwells did it not... how many articles of the kind have ever mentioned muggers in the stairwells? They could not keep air conditioners in the windows because they were stolen as soon as they were installed. It was impossible to maintain when it was inhabited by people that did not give a crap about their community or each other.

Butch

I know, we have an area in Montgomery where if they get a call the cops send in at least 3 two man cars, up to as many as they can get there. The project just south of the city is just about as bad. Trenholm court, the one in Montgomery had a man beaten to death with bricks young teens, they didn't try to rob him, near as anyone could tell it was just for the fun of it. All he was doing was trying to ride his bike down the street. Race wasn't envolved, both he and his attackers were black. He was a retired partrooper about our age.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 9/30/2015 9:18:02 PM

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When you have read the doj report please do get back to me. Your opinion of someone else's opinion of something you have not read is of less than no interest to me.

Apparently you didn't recognize that I quoted the DOJ report. Maybe you haven't read it?

Also, I didn't offer an opinion of "someone else's opinion".

Put the bottle down, bozo.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 8:45:40 AM

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When you have read the doj report please do get back to me. Your opinion of someone else's opinion of something you have not read is of less than no interest to me.

Apparently you didn't recognize that I quoted the DOJ report. Maybe you haven't read it?

You quoted an oft repeated interpretation of the doj report bozo

Also, I didn't offer an opinion of "someone else's opinion".

Yes you did

Put the bottle down, bozo.

Thirsty bozo?

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 8:49:54 AM

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It was crime ridden. You failed to read anything but segregated. So my guess was accurate.

It was not segregated. Your "guess" was not even in the same zip code with reality. As the cite pointed out the buildings were not to code (elevators did not even stop on every floor). The designed air conditioning was never installed and the regular maintainence was never performed

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 9:35:19 AM

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It was crime ridden. You failed to read anything but segregated. So my guess was accurate.

It was not segregated. Your "guess" was not even in the same zip code with reality. As the cite pointed out the buildings were not to code (elevators did not even stop on every floor). The designed air conditioning was never installed and the regular maintainence was never performed

The link you gave said 3 or 4 times that is was segregated. I have lived in military housing that was about that bad. In the 70's I lived in base housing built for Pattons troops, in WWI. It wasn't that the AC didn't work, they didn't have any. And the place was infested with bats, thousands of them which housing maintainance refused to do anything about until the commander was promised that every bat that got into quarters and was killed would end up on his desk. It also states that the place was overrun with crime, did you not read KD's post, he lives in that area.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 12:11:11 PM

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When you have read the doj report please do get back to me. Your opinion of someone else's opinion of something you have not read is of less than no interest to me.

Apparently you didn't recognize that I quoted the DOJ report. Maybe you haven't read it?

You quoted an oft repeated interpretation of the doj report bozo

Yeah, no. It was a direct quote. You haven't actually read the report, have you.

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Also, I didn't offer an opinion of "someone else's opinion".

Yes you did

See above.

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Put the bottle down, bozo.

Thirsty bozo?

Well as you mention it, are you sharing?

K.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 12:32:48 PM

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The link you gave said 3 or 4 times that is was segregated.

"Missouri public housing remained racially segregated until 1956."

Which was when p.i. opened.

I have lived in military housing that was about that bad. In the 70's I lived in base housing built for Pattons troops, in WWI.

You never lived in an 11 story building that did not have proper elevator service.

It wasn't that the AC didn't work, they didn't have any. And the place was infested with bats, thousands of them which housing maintainance refused to do anything about until the commander was promised that every bat that got into quarters and was killed would end up on his desk.

The residents of p.i. did not have a commanding officer with such power. Remember the article said that maintainence was not done.

It also states that the place was overrun with crime, did you not read KD's post, he lives in that area.

You obviously did not read the cite because it is pretty clear that the issues that caused p.i. to fail were not crime.

Originally, the city planned two partitions: Captain W. O. Pruitt Homes for the black residents, and William L. Igoe Apartments for whites.[11]

Missouri public housing remained racially segregated until 1956.[10]

Living conditions in Pruitt–Igoe began to decline soon after its completion in 1956.[3]

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 12:50:12 PM

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Yes I have.
I know you haven't.
Only if you appreciate anejo.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 12:54:00 PM

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The residents of p.i. did not have a commanding officer with such power. Remember the article said that maintainence was not done.

I was "housed" in a "barracks" where the conditions were worse than was at that same time, in the same area, the prison that the press was outraged about.
The only thing we had better than them was we could leave base. But then military people don't deserve as good conditions as welfare recipiants and criminals. And who said they did proper maintainance on any of the military housing I was in. We were expected to be thankful we weren't in tents.

And remember KD it was a hellhole that even the police wouldn't go into. That is a good reason for shuting the place down.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 1:02:02 PM

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The residents of p.i. did not have a commanding officer with such power. Remember the article said that maintainence was not done.

I was "housed" in a "barracks" where the conditions were worse than was at that same time, in the same area, the prison that the press was outraged about.

So phoquing what? You sure suck off of your time in the service now you are whining that you were treated worse than criminals. If you did not like it why did you reenlist?

The only thing we had better than them was we could leave base. But then military people don't deserve as good conditions as welfare recipiants and criminals.

Why do you feel that welfare recipients are related to criminals? Are either of them less human than you?

And who said they did proper maintainance on any of the military housing I was in.

You claimed your c.o. made sure it was done.

We were expected to be thankful we weren't in tents.

You never lived in a tent.

And remember KD it was a hellhole that even the police wouldn't go into. That is a good reason for shuting the place down.

The article I linked you to was pretty specific it was not gangs and drugs. Had you actually read the cite you would have known that now wouldn't you?

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 1:16:13 PM

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So phoquing what? You sure suck off of your time in the service now you are whining that you were treated worse than criminals. If you did not like it why did you reenlist?

I had jobs in the service that you could never even be considered for.
You have no idea what kind of job I did in the service.
Unlike you I think servicemen deserve to be treated better than criminals are.
Who said I didn't like the service, my problem was with people like you who treated us like the enemy and touht that every dollar spent on the military was wasted. I wasn't whinning, I was stating fact. If it is good enough for people defending you it is good enough for leaches and criminal scum.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 2:26:07 PM

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I had jobs in the service that you could never even be considered for.

Just because I have a three digit i.q. does not mean I cannot push a broom as well as you.

You have no idea what kind of job I did in the service.

How could we ever forget. You never tire of telling us how you were an m.p. in the air farce and the national fraud

Unlike you I think servicemen deserve to be treated better than criminals are.

Why? Do they need more air to breath? Are they somehow more human? How many wear a soldiers uniform only to escape wearing a jailbirds uniform?

Who said I didn't like the service, my problem was with people like you who treated us like the enemy and touht that every dollar spent on the military was wasted.

You can stick that bullshit where the sun don't shine homer. You know I have never said that, so that would make you a liar.

I wasn't whinning, I was stating fact.

You may have once seen the site where patton's troops were quartered but it is doubtful that those buildings would be standing in the 70's. On the other hand I was once stationed in a barracks that was authorized by thomas jefferson...Without a doubt the sweetest crib I ever stashed my duce gear in.

If it is good enough for people defending you it is good enough for leaches and criminal scum.

According to a fella named smedley butler that is a crock of shit. All the u.s. military does, according to smedley, is kill poor people to make rich people richer. If that be true then how is one different from the other?

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 2:32:40 PM

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I had jobs in the service that you could never even be considered for.

Just because I have a three digit i.q. does not mean I cannot push a broom as well as you.

You have no idea what kind of job I did in the service.

How could we ever forget. You never tire of telling us how you were an m.p. in the air farce and the national fraud

Unlike you I think servicemen deserve to be treated better than criminals are.

Why? Do they need more air to breath? Are they somehow more human? How many wear a soldiers uniform only to escape wearing a jailbirds uniform?

Who said I didn't like the service, my problem was with people like you who treated us like the enemy and touht that every dollar spent on the military was wasted.

You can stick that bullshit where the sun don't shine homer. You know I have never said that, so that would make you a liar.

I wasn't whinning, I was stating fact.

You may have once seen the site where patton's troops were quartered but it is doubtful that those buildings would be standing in the 70's. On the other hand I was once stationed in a barracks that was authorized by thomas jefferson...Without a doubt the sweetest crib I ever stashed my duce gear in.

If it is good enough for people defending you it is good enough for leaches and criminal scum.

According to a fella named smedley butler that is a crock of shit. All the u.s. military does, according to smedley, is kill poor people to make rich people richer. If that be true then how is one different from the other?

I didn't push a broom and I never said I was an MP in the Air Force.
First off the Air Force doesn't have MP's they are LEs.
Second I had a job that required that Mensa people bore you because they aren't bright enough.
Third I seriously doubt that you could pass the clearence background check.
smedley butler is a lying asshole. Relative of yours.

Yes they deserve more than leaches and criminal scum. They put there lives on the line even to protect people like you that hate them.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 3:16:19 PM

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I didn't push a broom

Then you were never in the military

and I never said I was an MP in the Air Force.

Maybe it was the national fraud???one or the other

First off the Air Force doesn't have MP's they are LEs.

They called them a.p.s when I was in.

Second I had a job that required that Mensa people bore you because they aren't bright enough.

well of course you were

Third I seriously doubt that you could pass the clearence background check.

My t/s expired before you were in high school.

smedley butler is a lying asshole. Relative of yours.

Now that you mention it he was my great grand dad and he was the youngest general in history of the marine corps and the most decorated military man in the u.s. history on his death and a couple of moh.
Just the sort of man a fellow like you would call a lying asshole...not to his face though.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 3:29:47 PM

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I didn't push a broom

Then you were never in the military

and I never said I was an MP in the Air Force.

Maybe it was the national fraud???one or the other

First off the Air Force doesn't have MP's they are LEs.

They called them a.p.s when I was in.

Second I had a job that required that Mensa people bore you because they aren't bright enough.

well of course you were

Third I seriously doubt that you could pass the clearence background check.

My t/s expired before you were in high school.

smedley butler is a lying asshole. Relative of yours.

Now that you mention it he was my great grand dad and he was the youngest general in history of the marine corps and the most decorated military man in the u.s. history on his death and a couple of moh.
Just the sort of man a fellow like you would call a lying asshole...not to his face though.

My job wasn't pushing a broom which you implied.
My clearances went beyond TS
Looked him up, if he was your great grand father then your great grand father was a nut.
He had no business being in the military if he hated it so much.
He was of the generation that courtmarshed Mitchell.
When did he get his Congressional, was it a head wound? Cause his later statements bespeak of brain damage.
You talk big for a man hiding behind a few hundred miles of cable.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 5:24:42 PM

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My job wasn't pushing a broom which you implied.

Yeah right

My clearances went beyond TS

Yeah right

Looked him up, if he was your great grand father then your great grand father was a nut.

That "nut" took panama for the u.s. without firing a shot.
That "nut" was awarded the brevet medal for leading five enlisted men in a running gun fight that earned the five enlisted men the moh.
That "nut" stood with the veterans (at hoverville) who marched on washington.

He had no business being in the military if he hated it so much.

Now if you had really looked him up you would not spout lies like that. You see I did not say he hated the military. You said that. You claim to have read up on him and yet you express your total ignorance every time you open your mouth.

He was of the generation that courtmarshed Mitchell.

For those who were never in the military the marine corps does not sit on the court martial boards for soldier boyz.

When did he get his Congressional, was it a head wound? Cause his later statements bespeak of brain damage.

Actually two moh and a brevet.

You talk big for a man hiding behind a few hundred miles of cable.

You are the one talking trash about a dead man with two moh and a well documented history of military service.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 5:29:17 PM

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My job wasn't pushing a broom which you implied.

Yeah right

My clearances went beyond TS

Yeah right

Looked him up, if he was your great grand father then your great grand father was a nut.

That "nut" took panama for the u.s. without firing a shot.
That "nut" was awarded the brevet medal for leading five enlisted men in a running gun fight that earned the five enlisted men the moh.
That "nut" stood with the veterans (at hoverville) who marched on washington.

He had no business being in the military if he hated it so much.

Now if you had really looked him up you would not spout lies like that. You see I did not say he hated the military. You said that. You claim to have read up on him and yet you express your total ignorance every time you open your mouth.

He was of the generation that courtmarshed Mitchell.

For those who were never in the military the marine corps does not sit on the court martial boards for soldier boyz.

When did he get his Congressional, was it a head wound? Cause his later statements bespeak of brain damage.

Actually two moh and a brevet.

You talk big for a man hiding behind a few hundred miles of cable.

You are the one talking trash about a dead man with two moh and a well documented history of military service.

I apologize for what I said about your great grand father, I still say he was wrong, but he should be respected for his service.
You regardless of your service have become a narrow minded bigoted moron.

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RE: On the All Lives Matter Issue - 10/1/2015 5:53:45 PM

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I apologize for what I said about your great grand father, I still say he was wrong, but he should be respected for his service.

How about you read up on ol gimlet eye before your let your alligator mouth overload your canary ass. There was a plot to kidnap president roosevelt and the ploters chose smedley to lead the military part of the coup. He ratted them off to congress... yes it is in the congressional record.

You regardless of your service have become a narrow minded bigoted moron.

From one with your legendary record of accuracy I would have to look upon that as a compliment.

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