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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 2/26/2016 5:25:57 AM

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That's too vague!

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 2/26/2016 5:32:01 AM

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Thanks for the suggestion.

In my mind the whole point of it is a barter, besides there are a LOT of other often expensive perks that this person would get to take advantage of. For somebody with limited income or who wants to pocket rent and food money instead of buying, not having to spend that money can be priceless. As I said, it is something that I would probably do if I wasn't married, with my own wonderful house.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 2/26/2016 5:45:01 AM

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1) No. No, and no. Where did you take this assumption from?

2) Yep. Yep. Yep.

3)-sigh- yep. Dunno lost track of all the points you were trying to make.

4) Thanks, but you made so many assumptions apparently just based on my post and I feel that it really doesn't help with the question. My listing goes over many many things but golly to put all that info here is just a burden on the eyes and detracts from my real question.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 2/26/2016 7:37:03 AM

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I'm not a sub but I want you to get a bit more for your thread.

Is there supposed to be a link in your profile to the actual ad? If it's supposed to be a link to one of your journal entries here or link to the ad you placed somewhere else, it's not there. All I got was your profile, stating that you want a butler and you're willing to exchange certain kinks (keyholder, etc) and room and board for the service. There's not much detail about it.

Maybe it's because I'm not submissively minded, but I wouldn't do this. One reason being I still have to do whatever it is that I do for my income. There's no money in this deal for my personal expenses, so unless I were disabled or on a pension of some sort, I still have to have my job plus do the upkeep of your house and whatever requirements that you have. The actual requirements aren't detailed. There's no information about the living space. You live in a pretty kink minded town, so I could probably just as easily get my kinks through meeting folks in the community, without having to do X amount of work in exchange for them. The positive that I took away from it was that you're not kid friendly, so at least there would be no little people to pick up after.

(You really don't want to hear the horror story I have for you from the top side on this.)

You did ask, very specifically, if the offer comes off the wrong way. I would say yes and it's not in the "too good to be true" category. With as many kinky people who know other kinky people in your location, I'd be wondering why it wasn't easy enough to find someone through the local community. You mentioned other electronic ways you can be reached to discuss the matter but Fet wasn't on there. I would have thought that would have been one of the better places to advertise.

Anyway, good luck. I hope it works out for you.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 2/26/2016 12:22:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: Naksetamun

I recently started seeking an arrangement that hubby and I thought would be a really sweet deal for everyone involved, which would be basically free room and board in exchange for housework, cooking, etc.

I thought that even in a vanilla context this would be great, it would have been something I would have done when I was untethered and looking for a place to stay.

I even posted it up on my profile!

My question is, would you or a sub/slave you know ever consider a gig like this one? Room, board, utils, perks in exchange for doing the chores and shopping?

What would sweeten the deal for you if you were considering it?

Do I come off the wrong way with my offer (is it too good to be true? Too cumbersome? Too open-ended? doesn't fit schedule?)

In my mind it sounds amazing, especially since I'm open to being a keyholder/ owner/ mommy to the right person, but think I must need an outside perspective as to what I am doing wrong!!

It's just not that appealing for most people. I know that seems kind of blunt, but it's the truth. I run a maids group and we regularly get Doms posting in absolute frustration that they can't find that maid / housekeeper / nanny / service slave they're desperate to find. Ultimately, most submissives are not interested in providing free housework in return for a place to stay. Unless they live with their parents, most submissives have their own place to stay, own job and own dating set-up and they don't want to sacrifice all of that in return for an insecure live-in position that doesn't further their career or relationship goals.

Obviously being an owner / Mommy / keyholder is a nice touch, but then you fall foul of all the usual 'unicorn hunter' problems of trying to find a single, unemployed, service slave who is happy to join a poly couple on their terms.

When I lived in Manchester, my rent was £218 a month for a one bedroom flat of my own. So all you are saving me is a couple of hundred quid a month and in return I am sacrificing wages, privacy, personal sexual relationships, autonomy and other aspects. Even if I stay in work, the wages it replaces is only about 20 hours of work. Yet I would be doing considerably more work than that every single week. It's just not worth it. I'm sorry to say - you're going to have to sweeten the deal considerably or give up on your idea of free domestic service for minimal input by yourselves.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 2/26/2016 6:03:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Naksetamun

Thank you for your honest reply. I understand that our age can be a red flag. Unfortunately that number's something I can only fix by waiting

And I've met plenty of 40 (60, 80) year olds that still act like 5 year olds too!!!

I know you cannot change your age, noir would you probably want to. It is just harder find a sub at that age with the maturity level you need.

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Anyway, I'm glad you had a positive experience, it seems like you must have spoken with or known this woman for a while before making such a change!

I knew the lady for over 6 years. We were and still are good friends (I will be going back to visit her in May). I made a lot of trips to Germany for work. On each trip I would see her. We had a common fetish we both enjoyed. Sometimes we would play, sometimes we would simply go out to dinner. Sometime we would take a train ride to the south of France for the weekend. It was sheer luck, or God smiling on me, that work had an assignment to opened up in Germany. So I took it.

The dynamic that we agreed to was different that what you are seeking. That is why I said similar in my first statement. I worked full time outside of her place. My main job for her was not cooking, cleaning and shopping. She offered a free room for me to stay in exchange for help expand her business she put a new addition on. So instead of cooking & cleaning I was doing more building furniture, plumbing, electrical work and maintenance work. So it was working for her, but in a different context.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 2/26/2016 11:31:00 PM

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i am a slave and service oriented i enjoy doing house work and shopping doing personal service ect i would be questioning the araingement myself i would need to have some sort of bond to the one i am serving just doing things for someone that i did not serve would not feed my submission.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 3/4/2016 2:51:05 AM

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Once, Chaos and I needed to move for his work, but since he was out of the country at the time ( 2nd deployment ), I needed to get the move done with out him. We had friends ( a married couple )already in this location. So, I was needing somewhere to stay while searching for a new house for us... We all worked out that I'd work as an au pair for them in exchange for room and board. This arrangement worked so well that they asked me to delay getting a place of my own. Lol.

Then, shortly after Chaos's 3rd deployment, my health took a bad turn. Chaos was afraid of me living by myself because, well, if something happened no one would know... Anyways, our best friends ( also married ) were in college and living in their parent's basement to save money. We agreed that they'd move in with me during the deployment as a precaution. It made Chaos and I feel a lot better that someone could take me to the ER if needed.

Now, these arrangements were among close ( but platonic ) friends. We didn't have formal contracts, just understandings. In the first arrangement, I provided child-care in exchange for room and board, and no money was ever exchanged. In the following arrangement, I guess you could say my friends were providing the service ( um could you call it babysitting me ? ) in exchange for room and board. Again, no money in the picture.

This worked for us, but we are friends. I don't know if a stranger would feel comfortable in such a set-up.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 3/28/2016 5:28:13 PM

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Dear Naksetamun,

First off, I am a submissive male. I would like you to know that I think your ad is really good - very appealing.

I don’t match your requirements now (not least because I have my own family), so I’ve tried to look back to see if there was a time when I would have considered this. I think there was… but it was quite a short period. When I was in my first ‘career’ job, there was a point when I needed to cut my expenses so I could save up a deposit to buy my own flat. I ended up paying £80 a month for the tiniest room I could find. If I’d seen an offer like this around that time, near to where my work was, I would surely have thought about it a lot, and I might just have applied. Even when I had bought the flat, I would have considered renting it to someone else if I could live “rent free” myself in exchange for housework. As it happened, shortly after I moved in, I met the love of my life (and we are still together now); so the opportunity would have ended there.

I find it interesting that you have had applicants, but none of them proved suitable so far. Perhaps you just need to be patient, until the right person comes along?

You were asking what would sweeten the deal, and do you come off the wrong way with your offer. I honestly think the ad is brilliant! I love the way you are so specific and realistic about what you need and what you’re offering; and I particularly adore the online assessment test - even though I scored only 203 :-(.

My only thought is that the line at the top (I will hold your key, leash, whateva) is a bit of a throwaway. It declares you are looking for a sub/slave, but might sound too vague for us to know what form you intended that to take. I get that you are a married couple, and you wish this to be respected – which makes perfect sense, and for me is one of the charming things about the whole setup. But if I was going into this as a submissive, I would need to be able to visualise the relationship that I’d be in, and above all I’d want to know YOUR intention. I think one or two of the other submissives have made a similar point. For example, my personal yearning is for Domestic Discipline. What would truly hook me in is if you said you have exacting standards so there would be a review of the work (once a week?) and punishment might follow if requirements were consistently not met. However, if you are not into that, then I’d say tell the reader what you DO want. For what it's worth, in my eyes being a key holder (if you mean locking a man in chastity) is a very sexual thing and I can’t quite envisage how that would work alongside the happily married scenario you have there.

I’m not sure if you will check back and read this reply, but if you do I hope it is helpful.

PS, I love your name! And your wedding picture!!

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 9/8/2016 11:53:27 PM

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I have been a sissy maid for several women . I did all the house work plus anything else they told me to do and got to dress feminine the entire time there. I have always liked doing housework for some reason but being feminized while doing it was different and I liked it even more.With one woman she decided that if I wanted to dress up I had to arrive at her house already dressed and wasnt allowed to bring any boy clothes with me at all. That way if I wanted to be a girl I had to stay as one till I got home and wasnt able to change clothes when someone visited, or she made me go somewhere with her.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 9/9/2016 12:13:16 AM

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Did you have to drag up a 6-month old necro thread??

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 9/13/2016 8:51:11 PM

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You basically just have to find the right person and understand that type of person is sometimes hard to find. I was in a relationship like this when I was younger, and it was great. I was more a slave than a submissive, and that worked well with the couple involved. The problem you'd probably run into is finding someone in your local area that would be interested in this. You might find someone willing to move some distance, but there's a lot of chances you have to take on that. My advice would be to try to find this person within your munch community, courting someone local who you learn to like and trust. Otherwise, you will have to do a lot of back and forth with someone until you find that right person. Sometimes, I wish I could find this sort of thing again in my life, but I live in Southern Texas, so finding that is difficult, and as someone who has a full time job that requires a lot of effort at work, I'm probably not going to find that sort of thing again. But when you find the right person, you'll find a very unique situation that I wouldn't suggest ever passing up if possible to achieve it.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 9/14/2016 9:23:56 AM

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Free room and board in return for housework.. that actually sounds pretty good, though it depends on the amount of housework involved, the people involved would get along, etc.
But that's me (and I'm nowhere near Florida)
I think most people prefer the control of paying rent and doing a share of housework.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 10/19/2016 1:53:33 AM

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I think she makes quite a few good points. They would be bringing this person into their home. It needs to be well thought out or it will flop.

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RE: Would any subs ever consider.... - 10/19/2016 7:13:47 PM

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I pay someone to give my house a really good cleaning once a month i do the day to day stuff but once a month i have maid come and give the hous a good going over. I would not do housewor (except my own house) unress i am gettin paid for it. I mean money not room and board.

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