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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/12/2016 11:20:22 PM

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Do I have to start evey post with a disclaimer that there are indeed many good Moslems to avoid you assuming I am Islamaphobic.

That depends: when someone who stupidly states there are no Christian terrorist organizations committing murders is corrected, are you going to come to their defense?

I will side with that before I will side who equates anything done by a Christian with the coldblooded state sponsored murder of at least 50 people.
The Christian extremist who as I have ponited out repeatedly have been repudiated by virtually every Christian leader. Even Westboro which was thrown out of their convention.

You never did give any figuers to show that all of them put together are anything like the threat that RADICAL Islam is.

Again, I cited two articles showing an overwhelming majority of Muslims do not support terrorism and reject ISIS. In other words, virtually all Muslims repudiate the acts of terrorists.

Survey: Muslims Worldwide Overwhelmingly Reject Terrorism (http://www.mintpressnews.com/survey-muslims-worldwide-overwhelmingly-reject-terrorism/74838/)

In nations with significant Muslim populations, much disdain for ISIS (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/)

And again, the original statement was no Christian terrorist organizations commit murders.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 12:35:56 AM

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So greta, he went into the club armed to the teeth and loaded for bear but never intended to use those weapons until he went to the toilet and saw two men kissing and that set him off ? That really doesn't hang together somehow.
so is the first one when you come to think about it but it IS what you insinuated.

I didn't insinuated. Apparently that's what happened. Seeing 2 gays kissing in the bathroom angered him. After he witnessed that, he plotted this whole killing of gay people in the night club. I didn't say it happened on the same day. Anyway, in a staunch sharia law run Muslim country, this dude might not even have committed a crime, just saying.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 12:41:52 AM

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The Christian vs. Muslim arm-wrestling misses the point, I think.

Both of those traditions--along with others--share a common problem: unhinged extremists who assume their prejudices are also God's.

That was precisely my point. Gretta in her hatred sees nothing but her hatred of her enemy

And all you guys are still ignoring that most Muslim countries criminalise homosexuals. That's alot of WHOLE countries of extremists. Awareness showed a pretty good map about it. I mean, as much as 7 of them would have put the entire Pulse Club to death in their country.

I would agree with you that Muslims love and welcome and accept homosexuality, ONLY when Muslim countries stop criminalizing homosexuality. Majority of the 1 billion "peace loving" moderate Muslims are living in Muslims countries that criminalise homosexuality ya know.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 1:42:50 AM

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I wouldn't bank on it.

Or in Russia especially.

If you are Gay, DO NOT go to Russia.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 1:44:02 AM

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So greta, he went into the club armed to the teeth and loaded for bear but never intended to use those weapons until he went to the toilet and saw two men kissing and that set him off ? That really doesn't hang together somehow.
so is the first one when you come to think about it but it IS what you insinuated.

I didn't insinuated. Apparently that's what happened. Seeing 2 gays kissing in the bathroom angered him. After he witnessed that, he plotted this whole killing of gay people in the night club. I didn't say it happened on the same day. Anyway, in a staunch sharia law run Muslim country, this dude might not even have committed a crime, just saying.

I read that his father saw two guys kissing out in front of the club a month or two ago and that angered him.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 1:53:49 AM

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Do I have to start evey post with a disclaimer that there are indeed many good Moslems to avoid you assuming I am Islamaphobic.

That depends: when someone who stupidly states there are no Christian terrorist organizations committing murders is corrected, are you going to come to their defense?

I will side with that before I will side who equates anything done by a Christian with the coldblooded state sponsored murder of at least 50 people.
The Christian extremist who as I have ponited out repeatedly have been repudiated by virtually every Christian leader. Even Westboro which was thrown out of their convention.

You never did give any figuers to show that all of them put together are anything like the threat that RADICAL Islam is.

Again, I cited two articles showing an overwhelming majority of Muslims do not support terrorism and reject ISIS. In other words, virtually all Muslims repudiate the acts of terrorists.

Survey: Muslims Worldwide Overwhelmingly Reject Terrorism (http://www.mintpressnews.com/survey-muslims-worldwide-overwhelmingly-reject-terrorism/74838/)

In nations with significant Muslim populations, much disdain for ISIS (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/17/in-nations-with-significant-muslim-populations-much-disdain-for-isis/)

And again, the original statement was no Christian terrorist organizations commit murders.

My argument was never that there are no Christian hate groups but that being concerned with them equally is like being obseed with fireants while Rodan is attacking.

When I said that Moslems have killed off more of ISIS than the rest of the world somehow meant to you that I think all or most Moslems Bck ISIS, how could you come to that conclusion.

And you avoided trying to demonstrat that those "Christion" groups are anywhere near as dagerous as ISIS and company.

The last thing like this that was committed by Christions was when over 100 blacks wefe lynched in the streets of NYC. It only ended when Meade Forced marched his troops from Gettysburg to NYC to pit an end to it. That was 1863.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 2:22:34 AM

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Well. This sucks.

As always, the 72 hour rule is in effect.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting.html

About 20 people were killed and at least 42 people were wounded when a gunman armed with an assault-style rifle, a handgun and possibly an explosive device opened fire inside a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla., about 2 a.m., Police Chief John Mina said.

The police classified the attack as a “terror incident.” Local and federal authorities were investigating, and the F.B.I. set up a hotline for tips.

What BS.

If the police and FBI consider it a 'terrorist incident,' then bring the doctor who wrote his scripts in for questioning.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 2:34:23 AM

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People talk about the guns, but from the (supposedly) first HS shooting in Arkansas to the theater shooting in Colorado to the woman congressperson in AZ to guy at Northern Illinois to the elementary school wherever in the NE to the weekly occurrence nowadays involves being on 'medication,' whether currently on them or having recently stopped them.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 2:54:03 AM

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People talk about the guns, but from the (supposedly) first HS shooting in Arkansas to the theater shooting in Colorado to the woman congressperson in AZ to guy at Northern Illinois to the elementary school wherever in the NE to the weekly occurrence nowadays involves being on 'medication,' whether currently on them or having recently stopped them.

Shaddup, or they'll come for you.

LOL

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 3:15:04 AM

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Even aside the massive over-prescription in this country, it doesn't escape notice here that the magalopoly media do their part to instill fear at every opportunity.

Guns, prescriptions, and incessant fear don't make for the best outcomes for society.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 3:22:28 AM

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I didn't have much issue with guns or police in the US 30 years ago.

But between all the prescription drugs and the ultra-violent video games that now seemingly come as standard for millions of 8-10 yr. olds on those drugs, I'm not exactly sanguine on the turn of events that might result.

OTOH, they've got different drugs for 13-18 yr. olds nowadays, so I hear.

Always good to see the pharmaceutical companies moving on and learning from mistakes. On to the next batch of subjects ...

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 3:31:45 AM

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Another sobering read:

http://thoughtcatalog.com/jacob-geers/2016/06/here-are-all-the-people-applauding-the-orlando-gay-club-shooter/

They are subhuman scum no matter what group they belong to.

I think you missed the point. This article proves that all right wingers are bastards because the ones pointed out in the article are bastards. And the worst part is those bastards are pointing to a few muslims and claiming their actions speak for the whole of islam. That also proves that the right wingers are all islamaphobes because the ones pointed out in the article are islamaphobes. Simple once you think about it.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 3:58:55 AM

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This is partially why I reject Peon's primitive belief that everyone has a place on the so-called left/right political spectrum.

That would my 'primitive' belief and that of nearly everyone who has a PhD or above in political science, Awareness, you berk.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 4:24:29 AM

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I didn't have much issue with guns or police in the US 30 years ago.

But between all the prescription drugs and the ultra-violent video games that now seemingly come as standard for millions of 8-10 yr. olds on those drugs, I'm not exactly sanguine on the turn of events that might result.

OTOH, they've got different drugs for 13-18 yr. olds nowadays, so I hear.

Always good to see the pharmaceutical companies moving on and learning from mistakes. On to the next batch of subjects ...

But, to demonstrate how ahead of the game we are in that regard, some über brat 26 yr. old sergeant policeman pounded on my 88 yr. old dad's door.

Screamed in his face (literally) about leaving the scene when he tapped a car when backing out. My dad had pulled into another spot, got out and looked, saw no damage. At the time, some idiot from Philly, as it later turned out, said "Hey!" You're supposed to call the police!"

"I pulled over and stopped, but there is no damage, do you see any damage?" "IT DOESN'T MATTER, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO CALL THE POLICE!!!" I'M GOING TO CALL THE POLICE!!!

The punk police brat, after scaring the bejezus out of an 88 yr. old man, by slamming his door and yellling loudly at him, wrote a ticket for a non-offense and handed it to the guy he greatly disrespected 42 years his senior. Dad called the town court next day, but no record of it. Called three days in a row. No magistrate in his right mind, given the available information, would have even let that POS pass through.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 4:29:03 AM

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What troubles me is that the modern-day southern police have now become as big assholes, and brats, as the typical Philly resident,

-because that's how things are taught in every police department nowadays, at instruction of and as requirement for the gobs of federal funding every 2,000 population town gets to buy computers for all ten cars the Feds bought them and all 5 armed-troop-carriers-disguised-as-EMT wagons-

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 4:50:49 AM

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It's not about taking over the World, as some would have it.

It's just about making The Carlyle Group or whatever investment club happy.

I won't even be so foolhardy as to ask, "fine and well, but is there any way to leave the über brats out of the process?"

Knowing the yankee 'protestent ethic' response would be an immediate "NO!"

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 5:54:29 AM

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The last thing like this that was committed by Christions was when over 100 blacks wefe lynched in the streets of NYC.

You are a lying sack of shit...never happened....11 body bags in five days...mr. mensa elligible.

https://theclio.com/web/entry?id=12837

It only ended when Meade Forced marched his troops from Gettysburg to NYC to pit an end to it. That was 1863.

Not exactly...meade did not do shit. But several militia units were returned to nyc from fredrick md.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 6:22:56 AM

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What say you, subrob1967?

No one expects 'perfection' out of university instructors, the police, or much anything else.

If I would do what I wanted to do to that punk with a badge screaming loudly in the face of a faltering man in likely his last year of life, completely unable to defend himself in any fashion, I'd likely be in prison for life.

Some kind of "new instruction" you guys got going on, there.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 6:29:12 AM

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The only fãggot in the club was Omar.
Amen.

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RE: Mass Shooting in Florida - 6/13/2016 6:35:51 AM

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I'm still working on a legal end of it, subrob, as are a brother and two sisters.

My question is;

WTF happened to you guys?

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