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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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That is not the issue. Kaepernick is not speaking out for himself. He is protesting the police treatment of poor black neighborhoods.

But he is doing it while being paid by his employer thus insinuating their agreement. That is why I agree that the organization that allows this political personal demonstration should be held responsible by those of differing opinions.

He... the 49ers and the NFL are assholes for doing and allowing it. One for disrespect and the other for being chicken shit. But in the end I really don't give a damn and I'll bet neither do most people. I'll still watch their product and cheer every time some defensive lineman slams his little ass into the ground.


Butch

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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Good news for the pro Kaepernick people, two of those murderous, racist cops in Fort Worth were shot today.

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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Good news for the pro Kaepernick people, two of those murderous, racist cops in Fort Worth were shot today.

Are you really this fucking stupid?

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ORIGINAL: stef

Yes, it appears you really are that fucking stupid.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he only says that shit to prove to himself that what he thinks is true.
No body has said fuck all about wanting cops dead, no one has made that accusation or statement, but him.(maybe termy)
Facts have little to do with his reality.
He puts facts on ignore:)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he only says that shit to prove to himself that what he thinks is true.
No body has said fuck all about wanting cops dead, no one has made that accusation or statement, but him.(maybe termy)
Facts have little to do with his reality.
He puts facts on ignore:)

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he only says that shit to prove to himself that what he thinks is true.
No body has said fuck all about wanting cops dead, no one has made that accusation or statement, but him.(maybe termy)
Facts have little to do with his reality.
He puts facts on ignore:)

I get the impression that RealG0ne would like to see some cops shot as well: they're the gubblemint's conspiracy's enforcers, after all.

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

A couple of points.

First, the right to protest is part of the package of rights guaranteed by the US constitution. People fail to understand that while the flag is a symbol, that's pretty much all it is. It symbolises America and mythologising the flag takes away from the fact that it is simply a representation of the country itself. Men didn't die for the fucking flag, they died for America, for the people that make up the nation.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that in many aspects, America has lost its way. It's become an increasingly secular society devoted to the pursuit of the almighty dollar at any cost. Remember, the entire foundation of the Republic - it's entire ethos - is to protect the minority from the majority. That is the quintessential difference between a democracy and a republic and America is currently failing as a republic.

Kaepernik is protesting the failure of the American republic. America is failing its African American citizens. And not to put too fine a point on it, increasingly it's failing its men and boys.

You're outraged by an mixed-race African American protesting the flag, but are you outraged at the laws which put so many African Americans in prison for trivial offenses, while the white motherfuckers who caused the financial crisis and resulted in millions of lost homes and jobs got away scot-free?

Are you outraged at the profiteering of the firearm manufacturers who stoke fears using the NRA so more of you buy guns you don't fucking need? Are you outraged at the 32,500 handgun deaths a year caused by the proliferation of firearms in the populace?

Are you outraged at the corruption of your representatives who do the bidding of big corporations? Are you outraged at trade agreements written by those same corporations which screw over the average American?

Are you outraged at the NFL which makes fucking billions per year but insists that cities have to build stadiums they can't afford? (That's YOUR tax dollars at work, by the way - subsidising a multi-billion dollar corporation which exploits the players, the fans and the cities stupid enough to host its games).

Are you outraged at the fucking NCAA exploiting the living fuck out of college athletes and making billions while the athletes get fucking nothing?

No. You're outraged at a sole African-American making a symbolic protest. Your outrage, dude, is a fucking failure of perspective. You're like a Republican that rages against the evils of Mexicans and single mothers while approving billions of dollars in tax-breaks and other corporate welfare.

There's a lot of issues in America which should stoke your outrage, but this is not fucking one of them.

And second: It's fucking football. It's a sport, a game. It doesn't fucking matter at all.

Again. Some FUCKING perspective would be useful, here.

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he only says that shit to prove to himself that what he thinks is true.
No body has said fuck all about wanting cops dead, no one has made that accusation or statement, but him.(maybe termy)
Facts have little to do with his reality.
He puts facts on ignore:)

I get the impression that RealG0ne would like to see some cops shot as well: they're the gubblemint's conspiracy's enforcers, after all.

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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he only says that shit to prove to himself that what he thinks is true.
No body has said fuck all about wanting cops dead, no one has made that accusation or statement, but him.(maybe termy)
Facts have little to do with his reality.
He puts facts on ignore:)

He wouldn't know a fact if it bent him over the table and fucked him in the ass. I thought it was worth trying to have a conversation with him but it turns out I would have better luck with my cat. Maybe Ron is right and he is a mental welfare patient, who knows. Oh well, he's back on ignore where he belongs. He can play with his strawman arguments all he wants now.

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ORIGINAL: satanscharmer

Thank you for quoting that, it certainly is worth reposting.

It's nice to know that we have these freedoms to be able to peacefully protest, but from a societal standpoint aren't actually supposed to use those freedoms. That, I believe, is the biggest slap in the face of veterans.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

he only says that shit to prove to himself that what he thinks is true.
No body has said fuck all about wanting cops dead, no one has made that accusation or statement, but him.(maybe termy)
Facts have little to do with his reality.
He puts facts on ignore:)

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The unfortunate thing is that we have become a country of polarized idiots. We only want to allow the dumbfuckery that aligns with our own. THAT is the dumbfuckery I am going to fight against.