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RE: pain - 11/12/2016 1:54:58 PM   
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So any lasting scars left? How about internally (that you can tacitly feel under the skin)? How long did it take to heal? How deep in the breast did you nail (nipple area, or full breast tissue)?

Well yeah, but they are tiny, hardly visible at all. And no I don't feel anything inside. It was through the flesh not the nipple, but not like near the chest, so at the edge so to speak.

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RE: pain - 11/12/2016 1:58:35 PM   
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It made perfect sense to me. And thanks for making the effort to explain it. I really appreciate it.

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RE: pain - 11/12/2016 2:41:03 PM   
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It took a long time for me to get past the fact that I liked pain, because pain hurt and I don't like pain, but I do, but it hurts and on and on and on. I was seeing a therapist, and he finally told me just to accept it. Since I was paying him lots of money, I did.

My dominant was able to take me past the fighting to get away from the pain to relaxing into it and subspacing. It basically took a lot of thuddy pain - think thick canes, and required that he didn't need feed back from me. As in, no reactions from me.

My Sweetie likes stingy pain, which I liken to being nibbled on by a hoard of angry chipmunks. It just annoys the shit out of me, and makes him laugh. Which I guess is appropriate since he is a sadist, rather than a dominant.

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RE: pain - 11/12/2016 3:29:29 PM   
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Man, I could not hang with you guys. I'm not a Masochist at all.

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RE: pain - 11/12/2016 4:32:59 PM   
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Man, I could not hang with you guys. I'm not a Masochist at all.


Yep. I'm a teeny tiny masochist in comparison around these parts.

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RE: pain - 11/12/2016 11:50:58 PM   
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It made perfect sense to me. And thanks for making the effort to explain it. I really appreciate it.


No problem.

So how about you?

You got any deeper insights in your fuckedupness?

I'm kinda interested in hearing more about how your dynamic with the two Fella's works, and their dynamic with each other. But you tend to not share that much about the details about it on the board, so if it's private, I understand.

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RE: pain - 11/12/2016 11:54:38 PM   
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My Sweetie likes stingy pain, which I liken to being nibbled on by a hoard of angry chipmunks. It just annoys the shit out of me, and makes him laugh. Which I guess is appropriate since he is a sadist, rather than a dominant.


I do not approve of people enjoying stingy pain. That stuff should be outlawed or something.

I like thud so much that one of my issues is Tops complaining they get tired of beating me. Their arms give out before my back/ass does.
I've had a punching scene where 3 big burly guys took turns punching me in the ass, and I still wore them out before they did me.

Bring sting out and you have me crying like a little girl and begging you to stop before the 4th swing though.

My slave girl really really likes sting though, so much so it makes her cum without any other erotic stimulation... which is just... unnatural in my book.




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RE: pain - 11/12/2016 11:58:18 PM   
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Man, I could not hang with you guys. I'm not a Masochist at all.


Seeing that we're fully stealing the thread anyways, might as well drift it too.

What kind of play do you enjoy? From your profile name I can make a few guesses, I'd like to hear more about it, and anything else you might be into.

Same question for any other none or light masochist reading alone... we don't talk about sex(y) stuff nearly often enough on this site. Lets not bitch for a while and instead talk about all the goodness that is dirty kinky play/sex.

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RE: pain - 11/12/2016 11:59:55 PM   
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Man, I could not hang with you guys. I'm not a Masochist at all.


Yep. I'm a teeny tiny masochist in comparison around these parts.


Extrapolating from there what it means that Awareness isn't much of a sadist either, that is soooooooo disappointing to hear, considering that the mental image I've got of him based on his posts plays a really big part in some of my most depraved masturbation fantasies...





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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 12:04:19 AM   
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I guess it also depends on the clamp, i mean there is a HUGE difference between a wooden clothes pin and an aligator clamp, right. :)

Mine was a metal nipple clamp with adjustable pressure but I think my x-dom went too much for me! I really screamed on that one!

But I guess in terms of caning or any type of beating. I only do that for pleasure, so I would not have experience someone who will do it to the point of no pleasure and just pain.
For me the purpose is often just to intensify orgasms.




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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 12:08:52 AM   
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Do you find that what hurts the most varies depending on who does it to you? I don't mean because one person spanks harder, but does it matter who does it to you.

Definitely, because inflicting pain for it not to hurt takes skill. My x-dom drew blood when he whipped me, but I felt zero pain. Just pure pleasure. Yet I have experience other doms who just lightly spank me and I couldn't take it.

They didn't prep me properly mentally to psyche me to receive orgasms from pain.

And actually, since my x-dom, I have no met anybody who really knows how to inflict pain for pleasure. Everyone else after him, it always just feels like pain, even though they were alot milder. I can tell from the quality of my bruises.

I didn't consider my x-dom a sadist though. Everything he does is to make sure I cum my brains out. So including how pain is applied.


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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 12:57:39 AM   
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And actually, since my x-dom, I have no met anybody who really knows how to inflict pain for pleasure. Everyone else after him, it always just feels like pain, even though they were alot milder. I can tell from the quality of my bruises.



Warm up is everything. I do a sensual caning that on occasion I've done on pure Tops who were just trying to experience it from the bottom's side to get more familiar with the technique. Without exception these were always worried about the experience beforehand because they weren't masochistic in the slightest, and thought the pain would be too much. Or with bottoms who are convinced they're not masochistic at all.

I've left some of them with bruises that took two weeks to heal, and gave them a hard time sitting for a couple of day... and on one occasion drew blood. All with me constantly checking in and asking if they were okay, and them going: "Yeah you can go harder, it's not hurting at all, it just feels good.". After the second time somebody was perplexed the next day about the bruises they got, I started giving insistent warnings before and during the scene that bruises would probably be involved, even though they don't believe they could take pain severe enough to lead to bruising without calling it quits first. But in the moment I still get met with disbelieve that we're really to the point of bruising already.

Doing a scene like that takes a lot of time though... the warm up into it alone takes a good 45 minutes to an hour to complete. Warm the ass up properly though, and you can get to the point of doing a full follow through cane stroke, and have somebody feel nothing but pleasure.




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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 6:42:29 AM   
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Man, I could not hang with you guys. I'm not a Masochist at all.


Seeing that we're fully stealing the thread anyways, might as well drift it too.

What kind of play do you enjoy? From your profile name I can make a few guesses, I'd like to hear more about it, and anything else you might be into.

Same question for any other none or light masochist reading alone... we don't talk about sex(y) stuff nearly often enough on this site. Lets not bitch for a while and instead talk about all the goodness that is dirty kinky play/sex.


Bondage, sensory deprivation and fear play all turn my crank. If you can keep me guessing as to where I'm going to be touched next, I'm your's. The mind fuck is the best.

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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 11:02:43 AM   
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You got any deeper insights in your fuckedupness?

Not really, I mean I have just recently accepted the fact that I am a masochist and so really started to explore it when I got pregnant (It seems that a guy gets very unwilling to beat on you when your carrying his child), and we have just started exploring it again. As to my inner motivations, I don't really know, I try not to explore that sort of thing a lot for fear of what I will find. My mother was killed when I was little and I blamed myself for it, which led me to be really fucked up for many years, it was a really dark and hurt filled place in my life, and I am really scared of ever going back there, so I don't do a lot of deep self-examination for fear of where it might take me. I know that some of why I like some of the things I do is,because I still have a lingering feeling that I somehow deserve it, and I m afraid to go down that rabbit hole again for fear that I will start to really believe it again or once again be driven to seek oblivion and get back into the booze and dope. So instead I just try to accept that I like some really messed up shit and leave it at that.

I mean, I now understand that I have enjoyed pain since before my mother's death, but I am still afraid to delve into the why's of it. I know that doesn't really make a lot of sense, but that's sort of to be expected with irrational fears.

As well, a large part of my masochism is directly sexual, by which I mean it almost has to involve some sort of fucking, I generally want at least one hole filled or a vibrator or something like that involved. This goes probably back to my fucked up years, where I had a lot of really rough painful and degrading sex with a lot of people. That whole period of my life and the multitude of really bad decisions I made has, I suspect, heavily impacted my entire personality.

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I'm kinda interested in hearing more about how your dynamic with the two Fella's works, and their dynamic with each other.

Well it's sort of strange, we have no protocols, we don't use titles, and I curse them when things get intense, and so on. A lot of it is what I call being a good girlfriend, things like sex on demand, or blowing a buddy. Because of my experiences as a teen, I just assumed that sort of thing was just what was expected and I was happy to do it, and I prided myself on doing it and being really good at it, because I like to be a really good girlfriend and give my boyfriend pretty much anything he wants sexually. It's also a sort of defense mechanism in a way, sort of thinking that they won't leave me if they get anything they want, which is, when you think about it, a really fucked up way to approach things, but it is what it is. Now don't get me wrong, I really, really get off on the sex, it's just that there is more to it than just the orgasms.

The same thing with other things like the more service oriented aspects, those too are, in my mind, just part of being a good girlfriend. And I also enjoy it for it's own sake. Like doing all the housework, well I just plain like doing housework, not in a sexual or erotic way, it just brings me a lot of satisfaction. Again this goes back to my mother, because after she was killed, with my Dad working, it sort of fell to me to pick up the slack around the house, and it became a source of pride for me to do it well, and it stuck, I still feel off if my place is a mess (and yes having a toddler is driving me nuts in that respect!).

Same sort of thing with handling all the finances. neither of my Fellas have ever been poor, they aren't rich, but they come from well to do families and have well paying jobs, and so they just never really learned to manage money very well, they never really had the need. I, on the other hand, had to learn. I have worked at a low paying job (waitress/bartender) and I have a very expensive hobby (taking university courses), so I learned to be very frugal and to squeeze every dime for all it was worth. So the Fellas, have tasked me with handling the money, making the investments and such, and again that makes me proud, that I am good enough at it that they have delegated the job to me. I mean they make the major purchase decisions, and then it is up to me to figure out how to come up with the money we need to make those purchases.


So, in a way, my being submissive is almost not submitting in as much as they are things I either enjoy for my own pleasure (pain) or things I always did anyway. There was a time when I needed the structure, or maybe it was just the illusion of the structure, I needed to have somebody "make" me do the painful or degrading stuff, but not so much anymore. However, there are some things we have started doing lately that I really do not like doing, they totally gross me out , but I do like being made to do them (I suspect that the old "I deserve it" thing is probably underlying that), so in that respect, I still need or at least want, a D/s structure of some sort. It also just turns me the fuck on to be ordered around and called slut, bitch, etc. And having to beg for the degrading shit. Again this probably goes back to my teen years.

In a way, I guess you could say they are sort of service tops with some dominance thrown in. When we first got together with the Other Fella, he asked the Fella why he did it, and his answer was "Because she needs it, and it's a hell of a lot of fun". And I'm just a slutty fucktoy/pain slut with some submissiveness thrown in.

As for their dynamic, well they are really just boyfriends, there is no D/s flavour to their relationship. As to who is in charge, well seeing as I live with the Fella and we have a child together, he is overall, I mean he is the one who will be making the major life decisions since he is the one directly responsible for me and Ruby's well-being. Other than that they have worked out a sort of division of responsibilities. The Fella tends to be in charge of the more overtly sexual stuff, when, how, and with who I will be a slut, and the Other Fella tends to be in charge of the more play oriented stuff, mostly because he enjoys that aspect more. But that's not a hard and fast rule, they often have long discussions (I call them planning sessions) where they work out where they want to take things, and to make sure they are both OK with things one of them wants to do or try. Apparently it took the Other Fella quite a while to persuade the Fella to incorporate scat play, it kinda squicked him out and he still doesn't really like to be involved in it much.

Yeah, so there it is, like I said, it's sort of strange and doesn't really fit into any particular box, but hey it works for us.

And after putting this down in writing I have come to two conclusions.
1. You're right, it is kind of hard to talk about this sort of shit, but also kinda cathartic.
2. I am still really fucked up, and I likely should see a shrink (See? That's why I don't like to think about it too much ).

That and I kinda wish I hadn't answered because I am feeling kinda shitty about myself now. I think I need some Mommy time to make the world right again.

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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 12:49:52 PM   
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What kind of play do you enjoy?




Well, I do like it when he grabs me by the throat and fucks me really hard while he tells me how women lack the spatial reasoning to properly parallel park.

;)

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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 2:04:29 PM   
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What kind of play do you enjoy?




Well, I do like it when he grabs me by the throat and fucks me really hard while he tells me how women lack the spatial reasoning to properly parallel park.

;)



Yeah that wouldn't work for me.

In addition to being in the 99.98th percentile on spacial reasoning myself, my mom is a driving instructor focusing specifically on 'difficult students' (people with autism, traumatic experiences, etc). She taught me to parallel park both from the driver's side of the car, as well as from the passenger's side of the car (reaching over taking the wheel from the driver, and using the pedals on the passenger side which her instructor car is equipped with).

Besides that, you don't actually need any spacial reasoning to parallel park as long as you have been taught the correct cues on which you're supposed to do what. It's paint by numbers.

I'd end up being distracted on having to correct his 'wrongness' and going "well actually..." is kinda a mood killer in those kind of situations.



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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 7:02:12 PM   
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I do not approve of people enjoying stingy pain. That stuff should be outlawed or something.

I like thud so much that one of my issues is Tops complaining they get tired of beating me. Their arms give out before my back/ass does.





I'm all about the thud. Hit me with something that will move me forward a few feet and I'll purr. We were at Folsom Street Fair when we came across a flogger called a "mop". It weighed close to 20 lbs and I thought it was fantastic.

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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 7:07:44 PM   
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You got any deeper insights in your fuckedupness?

Not really



I beg to differ. That was awesome. Thank you.

I'm still processing, because there are so many points I want to address, but I need to organize my thoughts before I'll be able to do so. Sorry for the delay.

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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 7:12:20 PM   
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I do not approve of people enjoying stingy pain. That stuff should be outlawed or something.

I like thud so much that one of my issues is Tops complaining they get tired of beating me. Their arms give out before my back/ass does.





I'm all about the thud. Hit me with something that will move me forward a few feet and I'll purr. We were at Folsom Street Fair when we came across a flogger called a "mop". It weighed close to 20 lbs and I thought it was fantastic.


My husband got me a new 10 lbs bullhide flogger at Thunder in the Mountains this year. One of my favorite toys.

My favorite for thud toys is actually one I made myself. It's a 3 foot long metal pole with lead shot glued in it so that it's both very heavy, as well as perfectly balanced for an easier swing on the Top's arms, that has a big pool noodle glued to it (except the handle where you hold it to swing).

It's super heavy, super easy to put a lot of power into it's swing because you can swing it two handed like a baseball bat, and because of the pool noodle it's 100% thud, no sting at all like you get from paddles.


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RE: pain - 11/13/2016 9:19:55 PM   
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I beg to differ.

it was originally going to be a much shorter post, but once I got started i just kept going, which is why it is sort of all over the place. Like I said it was cathartic to write it down. So you're welcome.

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