tamaka
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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick Now, that being said, I can understand, I think, where tamaka and Ishtar's slave are coming from, the idea of serving somebody who does not care for me, someone who does not value me other than for how I can serve/please them is terribly appealing to me, but that sort of objectified dynamic Just to be clear: I never said that I don't care for my slave. Nor that I don't value her. I care for her a great deal. I value her a lot. I think she's an amazing person and I'm very fond of her. If she would ever reach the point where slavery (at least slavery as it's defined in this house) wouldn't suit her anymore, I would hope that our dynamic could transform into something else (more equal partnership), or if that wouldn't work I'd hope we could at least stay close friends. But for all the care I have for her, I don't love her, and I don't love her precisely because she's my slave. The qualities I need in a partner in order to love them are things she cannot offer me in the slavery she's kept. For me to love her would be a far too one-sided relationship, and she wouldn't be able to fulfill the emotional needs I have from a romantic partner. Thus, I don't see her as 'romantic love partner' potential, and so I haven't fallen in love with her, despite caring quite deeply for her. In a sense you could say that I objectify her, because I do very much see her as nothing more or less than property, but if you from there jump to the conclusion that it means I'm emotionally left cold about her you'd be incorrect. My dog and my cat are my property as well, and are 'objectified' as my property, and yet I care very deeply for them despite their status as my property. My emotions towards my slave girl are very similar than those I've got for my dog. They're different than what I feel for my dog, because my slave is human, but they're of a generally similar type. In a sense you could even call what I feel for my slave a kind of love (I dislike how easy it is in English to say you 'love' stuff though... I certainly don't love ice cream the way I love my dog, or love my husband... Dutch makes making distinctions between those kinds of 'loves' much easier), but even so, what I feel for her is definitely not romantic love, and doesn't come close to how I feel about my husband. But then again, she doesn't offer me anything near to the things my husband offers me as my partner either, so I don't see how I could love her the way I do him. If she did offer me those things, I might feel quite different about her than I currently do. But if that was the case, she also wouldn't be my slave anymore -as slavery is defined in this house. If only i could put things into words like you do... I actually replied that i never said my Master didn't care for me or value me... but then i cancelled it ... because it would be hard for me to explain since i'm His slave and not Him. I know that my Master cares for me. I believe He cares quite a bit... which i am very thankful for. I know that He values me too... He values me because He trains and keeps me exactly how He wants to and i respond well to His training & keeping of me. Much like you'd value a pet that is well trained, pleasing to you... and the pet is faithful, devoted and adores you... responds well to commands and is eager to please. And that is exactly what i need... so it works out very well.
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