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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 1/8/2017 11:59:47 AM

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Right here for one, but I've taken so much abuse here, I feel I have to hide.

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 1/15/2017 4:51:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: RogueCell

I usually agree with DS, however in this case I don't. Well maybe I do, but it all depends what he views as demands. One person's demands are another person's hard limits...

Out of curiosity, why would you disagree with someones PERSONAL preference?

He isn't saying you shouldn't take a sub who makes demands - He's saying that HE won't.

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 1/18/2017 12:07:32 PM

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...and then try to make demands or suggestions?...Where are all the subs who know their place?

Doms are tested.

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/9/2017 4:42:02 AM

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You ask..."Why do many pretend to be submissive and then try to make demands or suggestions? I am so annoyed. Some are needy too and do"n't have patience. Where are all the subs who know their place? "

A Dom recently wrote his sign on his Dungeon entrance reads: "LEARN TO OBEY BEFORE YOU COMMAND", its so true!

You are very young, and I'm proud of you coming forth this this great concern and question!!

I'm a Switch and understand both realms to a point ( could use more experience myself)...

Have you a feeling thaI it a Trust Issue from lack of experience is on the front line?
Thats what it is alot, and now you ask them. AND You Must Build TRUST &
DOM/SUB respect. Sub has the power and it comes from happiness, joy, and by all means DESIRE.

Ask questions, demand answers
, BE A GOOD LEADER... Never break their Trust & step outside your negotiations/rules. Subs positively needs to feel at ease with the Dom whose going to submit them to punishment.

1) The Quote: "LEARN TO OBEY BEFORE YOU COMMAND"... it helps you become more proficient, stronger, and learn the power in vulnerability,you can become a better Mistress or Master. help break the cycle of many so called Doms who you can read like a book: their pure expectancy, systematic; lacking productiveness: I'ld act up too to test you or walk-on finding the intelligent creative Dom to fullfill my expectations... (am still looking)

2) COMMUNICATE, COMMUNICATE!!! ALL SUBMISSIVES ARE DIFFERENT, as are Doms... if you both write down your expectancies, directions, and build your rules.

I wish peace joy and happiness to you & your next Sub.

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/9/2017 7:48:45 PM

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Forget about the subs why are so many Dom/es cluess? Maybe you are the one who is useless. (Yes Master knoes i wrote this)

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/9/2017 8:38:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: Dreammdoll

Why do many pretend to be submissive and then try to make demands or suggestions? I am so annoyed. Some are needy too and don't have patience. Where are all the subs who know their place?

Just my opinion:

No matter how "domely" (is that a word?) you think you are, when you interact with a sub, even when just exchanging information, you are in a "relationship." For any relationship to be successful BOTH people need to have their needs met. If one or the other (or both) don't get their own needs met the relationship will fail.

You seem to think that since you are the "dom," that only your needs count. WRONG. If you want to have a successful relationship you need to actually listen to the sub to see what their needs are. Just about the only way they can let you know what their needs are is to make "demands and suggestions" . . . unless you are psychic? And unless you listen to the sub, especially in the beginning, then any sub would be insane to put themselves in your hands.

Again, just my own two cents worth.

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/11/2017 3:20:46 PM

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Why do many pretend to be submissive and then try to make demands or suggestions?

Oh I don't know, maybe because they are human beings and so have wants of their own and also have ideas of their own.

This. And don't confuse a submissive getting with a prospective Dom over lunch or dinner and going over desires, limits, rules and past problems as "demands". I found it quite common for them to do so and I encourage it just as I encourage orgasms.

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/11/2017 3:22:54 PM

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...and gel mood nail polish, very encouraged also. I learned about this in an LP thread response.

Revised to change "fingernail" to just "nail".

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/11/2017 10:20:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: LTE

...and gel mood nail polish, very encouraged also. I learned about this in an LP thread response.

Revised to change "fingernail" to just "nail".

Hey, it's cool stuff, man.

Take your gal to the salon, get her a mani/pedi, pay the extra few bucks. She'll love it.

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/20/2017 5:45:16 AM

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What? Doormats r us is down the hall-second door on the right. Don't trip if the light is off!

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/21/2017 12:21:09 PM

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ORIGINAL: Danemora

Would you like some cheese to serve with your whine?

I don't understand why so many people can never just answer the damn question. Why is that so hard?

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/21/2017 12:22:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: CoSubGirl

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ORIGINAL: Dreammdoll

Why do many pretend to be submissive and then try to make demands or suggestions? I am so annoyed. Some are needy too and don't have patience. Where are all the subs who know their place?

Here's a crazy idea. Why don't you actually BE dominant by going out and getting a job instead of mooching off people?

Show everyone how in control you really are.

Why are you assuming that a Dominant person looking for subs doesn't have a job? Where does it say that?

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/21/2017 1:51:02 PM

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We comment this way because her profile, when she first wrote this post, was all about subs buying her stuff and offering nothing to the sub.
In other words, it was a total 'Me Me Me' profile from a 24 yr old who seems to think the world owes her something for doing nothing.

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/27/2017 7:33:49 PM

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Because submissives aren't slaves.

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/28/2017 6:14:22 AM

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Dreamdoll, please don't take this as another angry person having a go at you for what you've said. Nevertheless, not all subs are going to break to your will and obey your every command just like that. And it's not at all uncommon or bad for a sub to be needy, think about if we were discussing daddy/little girl dynamic. Little girls are extremely needy a lot of the time and it's the daddy's job to guide, care for and discipline her/him. You wouldn't see a Daddy on here complaining about how needy a little girl is so why should it be any different for a male submissive and his mistress?

My advice to you is: You need to look into BDSM more thoroughly, possibly ask another professional mistress to train you so you have a deeper understanding. It's not a subs job to immediately and indefinitely follow your every instruction and give you everything you want and need.
It's supposed to be an actual relationship, not a one way street.

Side note: To be honest it's really sad, financial domination used to be a kink that people engaged in because it aroused them, now there are too many fake dommes who have no real interest or understanding of BDSM just doing this for easy money. If you're only here for that reason then please consider going onto seekingarrangement.com and become someones sugar baby or go to mfc or chaturbate where men and women will willingly tip you to do stuff on cam.
I have a day job, it's not like I'm doing fin-dom to suck subs' wallets dry, it's because I'm actually aroused by this kink and dominating girl n guys.

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RE: Why are so many subs useless? - 3/28/2017 6:33:42 AM

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Op did actually have a wee bit of a point - olde thread this one methinks. He just worded it very badly....ah was that a she MsSue - I forgot - they whifffed of sock to me, and their one appearance leads me to not change my mind

I am still inclined to think there are no absolutes - let me mull over a couple of new threads on this forum just with different words.

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