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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/14/2017 6:58:07 PM   
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Maybe the owner of CS is too ill to invest in it right now.




I think the issue is that he's investing the time and effort into the site because he is ill. I know dealing with "She who must not be named" drained my energy and I didn't even have to wrestle with her.


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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/14/2017 7:14:20 PM   
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are you aware the server just came out with a new update last month?

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/14/2017 7:38:59 PM   
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If there's nobody else using the bandwidth and the server's clearly limited processing power, then it'll work faster for him, at least.

I'm on here at the same time as a lot of other people.
IF the server itself was lagging, I'd be getting the same general lag as everyone else.
But I'm not.
I'm not even on the same continent as the CS server and not on the same backbone.

As I said, I only have a 10Mb internet connection; slower than many others on here.
It is shared between 17 machines of which more than half are doing something on the 'net at any one time.

There are sooo many connections between your device and the end-point and any one of them could be at fault.
Most hiccups and problems occur within 50 miles of your device - before it even gets to your ISP's routing server.
Most of the lags and page-loading hiccups are caused by wireless/Wifi connections.
That's because your transmissions are competing with everyone else using wireless devices.


As an example: I have an old Dell 9300 laptop that has wireless, bluetooth and RJ45 ethernet (cable) connections.
On wireless, I have 13 hops that takes 67ms average when it reaches my ISP.
On bluetooth, I have 19 hops with an average of 110ms to my ISP.
Via the cabled connection (wireless turned off), I have 3 hops and an average of 6ms to reach my ISP.
And that's before it gets out onto the backbone and routed halfway across the world.
For those that wonder what the figures mean: compared to the hard-wired cable connection, wireless is 11x slower and bluetooth is more than 18x slower.
For those interested, there are on average 14-18 other active wireless connections within 50 yards of me.

If I connect via wireless (or bluetooth), it's horribly slow, lags like a bitch, often stutters and doesn't load properly 10-20% of the time.
Via the direct cable connection, it's reasonably fast and very rarely fails to load - and no lag.
If I switch from XP to Windows 7 Ultimate, Windows 7 drops out more frequently and is definitely slower than XP but the cable/wireless figures are similar.
Same hardware, same router, same ISP, accessing the same site from the same location with the same browser (Firefox v51beta13) running the same antivirus software.
So the way you connect to the 'net can make a huge difference on how a site appears to behave (or not).

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods
If it is broke though (and you seem to be the only poster in this thread who thinks it isn't, bear in mind) some sort of fix might be in order.

Sure, there are some things that need fixing on the site itself - it needs a mahoosive upgrade for a start.
Many people are reporting 'broken' things that I'm finding are not actually broken.
So I'm inclined to think (based on my experiments with my machines here) that most of the problems are more local and not actually with the site itself.

Many use wireless/WiFi connections or smart-phones/tablets that use similar types of connections.
That, in itself, is probably the cause of 90% of the lag and page-loading problems.
The fact that this site is old and not been updated properly for mobile devices is almost certainly the cause of 90% of the remaining problems.

So apart from the known feature failures that affect absolutely everyone, most of peoples problems are how they access the site or connect to the 'net rather than the site itself.
And yes, I know people will say that other sites work fine and the problem is with CS.
What they don't realise is, the moment you point to somewhere else in the world, your route to getting there isn't the same as it is with CS - even if the other server is sitting right next to it.

[ETA: this page took about one second to post from a preview, close the preview page, close the original editing window, and display my post in the thread]


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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/14/2017 8:32:11 PM   
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I have gotten a few server errors
clicking into groups takes a long time and sometimes times out, however clicking into topics and posts is way less than a second too fast for me to guess, I'd have to put a timer on it.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/14/2017 9:21:36 PM   
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For me, collarchat specifically, always loading into a blank page for me. I simultaneously surf other forums, and no such problems in other forums.

I have to reload a page in collarchat many times, before it stops showing up blank.

It's abit annoying.

I hope the owner will be able to find some good partners to help to keep this place alive.

I still think it's one of the better designed platforms for kink.

So much potential to be great.


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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/14/2017 9:53:37 PM   
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I have a lot of net tools... and yes, the forums are intermittent and time out. Freedomdwarf must have the luck of the Irish because I am getting lag right now (9:35 pm California server time). However, Collarspace/chat had a content repeater system last time I looked a year ago. So Freedomdwarf may be drawing his version of CollarChat from a different server than we do.

No matter how you slice it, the main Windows based server cluster in California is limping. They broke it a while ago and patched it back together leaving some holes in the database. That breakdown cost them advertisers. Then the owner fired the only tech and tech issues haven't been getting addressed properly ever since. I don't think they have the money to fix this place anymore. CollatChat has had some good patches where page fetching was 1/2 a second... but overall, this place hasn't worked right with consistency in a very long time. Which is why you haven't seen my posts in long time. I am not a masochist and refuse to be tortured by bad and broken software that is the result of bad business management decisions, no matter how sick the owner is. The owner has been sick for years, ever since he lost the Collarme.com domain. I feel for him but I lost patience long ago.

For all you troopers that still wade through all the lag and breakdowns to pay regular attention to this place, you have my respect and sympathies. Carry on...




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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/14/2017 10:01:08 PM   
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when did they port to nginx?

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 3:12:48 AM   
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when did they port to nginx?

I believe it occured when one of the Bridge Navigating officers made some error in his calculations when charting the ships course!

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 3:18:19 AM   
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Stop the dick comments about non existent sock puppets!


You sock, therefore you are. Grab up a dictionary little dick sock.

I see you have a personality problem! You call anyone with whom you disagree on anything a sock puppet. Well you are nothing short of a cocksucker you homo nonse.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 3:20:33 AM   
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Give me a smooch loyalmanservant




I am not inclined to the same sexually perverse proclavities as you are Glagow Jocky shorts!

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 6:59:51 AM   
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I am not inclined to the same sexually perverse proclavities as you are Glagow Jocky shorts!


What a thing to post on a kink forum :/

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 8:45:40 AM   
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Not even a wee peck on the cheeks loyalsomethingorother

Thanks for that residentevil. I am led to belief one person owns this site - as for ad revenue no idea - sometimes the cynic in me thinks its why all these fake women profiles run amok so long...anyhoos ive made enough comments in the past regarding this place so not point me doing it again and again.

I am not sure i ever ran into him on here...i did her one time and i actually liked her ideas. As for the spat - not fair of me to comment.

but as i say from time to time there is enough collective-regulars on here ( you can exclude me as its never about me)

it is time to sell/gift-take a cut in ad revenue - i am ill, plenty of us are...I never use that as an excuse to not contribute.

His original ethos is free - and I am fine with that the most successful- busiest websites are always just that

i have shag all problem with a donation system - but i would not donate to this place due to the sheer volume of fake profiles and the apathy to them over the last decade.

i actually like what nookie is trying to do

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 9:28:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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Stop the dick comments about non existent sock puppets! This website had many good features once but went downhill. Could new owners revitalise it and make it the world's best website for the BDSM lifestylers? Many bad people of I'll intent have Brought about it's present state. The owners, employees, moderators and members. Back in the day it lead the way.

In other words, you want people to be gullible enough to believe that somebody with a ten day old account is going to tell other posters about how bad people brought it to it's present state. No "new" poster is going to be extolling the 'back in the day' of the site. Only somebody who had a prior account would even go for the above. That means this screen name is a sock puppet.

Some free advice. If you're going to lie, put enough effort into it so that anybody with an IQ over 80 can't see through it in less than five seconds. Just a thought.

Anyway, I don't know what's wrong with the website. (I assume you mean the lag, time-outs, etc.) I have no idea what FD is doing right that everybody else seems to be doing wrong.

I can tell you something I've said a number of times over the years. If I owned the site, I wouldn't put any more money into it other than what was absolutely necessary to turn a profit. I might fix the hole in the roof at my buggy wheel factory, but I certainly wouldn't be revamping the whole production floor. I'd be looking at the fact that the business down the road that makes those rubber tires for automobiles probably has the better industry.

As a business owner, I would have to be looking at my competitor, seeing how he is cashing in, and recognizing how I missed the boat. Somehow, that guy built a product in less than three years that left me in the dust after being around for ten.

The "world's best site for BDSM lifestylers" changes from internet era to internet era. IRC, B.com, Alt... All of them, at one time or another, were the new best thing. Where are they now? Pretty much all replaced by the next big thing.

Personally, I think the "other product" is superior, at least 95% of the time. I can do vastly more things on Fet than I ever could have done in CM's heyday. I can find more events in my hometown than I could in an entire year on this site. The ability to post more pics/videos. I don't have to do summer-salts to check out a person's activity. I can set journal entries to 'friends only'. I can RSVP, publicly, to events, if I wish. I can keep my comments private, if I want. I can do at least sixteen things there that I can't do here. Those few things that I can do here that I can't do there, don't matter to me all that much.






But what FetLife doesn't allow you to do is browse profiles for a specific geographic area by narrowing or selecting a search ability. You have to end up searching through hundreds of profiles of men and women when you only want to browse profiles of women let's say and of a particular type, dominant let's say. So, FetLife lacks a few basic, common sense capabilities.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 9:59:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: lovingsub2byours


quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: loyalmanservant
Stop the dick comments about non existent sock puppets! This website had many good features once but went downhill. Could new owners revitalise it and make it the world's best website for the BDSM lifestylers? Many bad people of I'll intent have Brought about it's present state. The owners, employees, moderators and members. Back in the day it lead the way.

In other words, you want people to be gullible enough to believe that somebody with a ten day old account is going to tell other posters about how bad people brought it to it's present state. No "new" poster is going to be extolling the 'back in the day' of the site. Only somebody who had a prior account would even go for the above. That means this screen name is a sock puppet.

Some free advice. If you're going to lie, put enough effort into it so that anybody with an IQ over 80 can't see through it in less than five seconds. Just a thought.

Anyway, I don't know what's wrong with the website. (I assume you mean the lag, time-outs, etc.) I have no idea what FD is doing right that everybody else seems to be doing wrong.

I can tell you something I've said a number of times over the years. If I owned the site, I wouldn't put any more money into it other than what was absolutely necessary to turn a profit. I might fix the hole in the roof at my buggy wheel factory, but I certainly wouldn't be revamping the whole production floor. I'd be looking at the fact that the business down the road that makes those rubber tires for automobiles probably has the better industry.

As a business owner, I would have to be looking at my competitor, seeing how he is cashing in, and recognizing how I missed the boat. Somehow, that guy built a product in less than three years that left me in the dust after being around for ten.

The "world's best site for BDSM lifestylers" changes from internet era to internet era. IRC, B.com, Alt... All of them, at one time or another, were the new best thing. Where are they now? Pretty much all replaced by the next big thing.

Personally, I think the "other product" is superior, at least 95% of the time. I can do vastly more things on Fet than I ever could have done in CM's heyday. I can find more events in my hometown than I could in an entire year on this site. The ability to post more pics/videos. I don't have to do summer-salts to check out a person's activity. I can set journal entries to 'friends only'. I can RSVP, publicly, to events, if I wish. I can keep my comments private, if I want. I can do at least sixteen things there that I can't do here. Those few things that I can do here that I can't do there, don't matter to me all that much.






But what FetLife doesn't allow you to do is browse profiles for a specific geographic area by narrowing or selecting a search ability. You have to end up searching through hundreds of profiles of men and women when you only want to browse profiles of women let's say and of a particular type, dominant let's say. So, FetLife lacks a few basic, common sense capabilities.


That is because Fetlife was specifically designed not to be a " BDSM dating website".

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 10:14:29 AM   
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But what FetLife doesn't allow you to do is browse profiles for a specific geographic area by narrowing or selecting a search ability. You have to end up searching through hundreds of profiles of men and women when you only want to browse profiles of women let's say and of a particular type, dominant let's say. So, FetLife lacks a few basic, common sense capabilities.

This is correct. Fet has no a/s/l search-type feature because it's not designed to be a dating site. Baku has said from the beginning it would not have such a feature and it still doesn't, even though some people complain about it not having one. It really is much more like a kinky Facebook and that was one of the huge draws for some women who split this site in favor of that one. Please keep in mind that not everybody is on certain kink-related sites for the purpose of dating or wants to interact with every person who has the ability to send emails just because they ran across their profile in some way.

So, those of us who already have our relationships the way we want them (in other words, not seeking), are just using the site to keep in contact with the people we know, or using the Events tab, really aren't that concerned about not having those features. I actually delete less unwanted mail there than I do here.

Funny thing about it. Engie actually did first contact me on Fet.





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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 10:30:03 AM   
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I have a lot of net tools... and yes, the forums are intermittent and time out. Freedomdwarf must have the luck of the Irish because I am getting lag right now (9:35 pm California server time). However, Collarspace/chat had a content repeater system last time I looked a year ago. So Freedomdwarf may be drawing his version of CollarChat from a different server than we do.

No matter how you slice it, the main Windows based server cluster in California is limping. They broke it a while ago and patched it back together leaving some holes in the database. That breakdown cost them advertisers. Then the owner fired the only tech and tech issues haven't been getting addressed properly ever since. I don't think they have the money to fix this place anymore. CollatChat has had some good patches where page fetching was 1/2 a second... but overall, this place hasn't worked right with consistency in a very long time. Which is why you haven't seen my posts in long time. I am not a masochist and refuse to be tortured by bad and broken software that is the result of bad business management decisions, no matter how sick the owner is. The owner has been sick for years, ever since he lost the Collarme.com domain. I feel for him but I lost patience long ago.

For all you troopers that still wade through all the lag and breakdowns to pay regular attention to this place, you have my respect and sympathies. Carry on...





The forum side is so slow for me, for the last few months, I usually just close it rather than wait. But I have noticed something that defeats the "owner too sick to care" theory: I have zero lag time on the profile side, even on my iPhone. Those links all work instantly. Owner makes money on the profile side, not off the forum side. Coincidence?


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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 10:50:41 AM   
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I usually have a tab open for the site...most hours of the day.
Yes there is a problem with it,
There has been a problem with it for over a year.
Freedom Dwarf, that you have no problems doesnt negate problems others are having, its got fuckall to do with your"abilities". or system.


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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 10:51:59 AM   
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Well you are nothing short of a cocksucker you homo nonse.


And that line says way more about you, than it does about him.


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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 11:07:01 AM   
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Maybe it's bad latin for some sort of human subspecies? Homo Nonse(ensical) perhaps?
Nah, he's just a fuckwit who can't spell "nonce". My bad.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/15/2017 11:18:50 AM   
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But what FetLife doesn't allow you to do is browse profiles for a specific geographic area by narrowing or selecting a search ability. You have to end up searching through hundreds of profiles of men and women when you only want to browse profiles of women let's say and of a particular type, dominant let's say. So, FetLife lacks a few basic, common sense capabilities.


If Fet was to introduce such a feature then more than half the women on Fet would probably delete their profiles from it within a few months. Have a look at #Nokcupid to see why. This same thing is also why the Dating and profile side of this site doesn't work as intended. It only takes a few rude, entitled, obnoxious men to poison the well for everyone.

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