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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 7:47:16 AM

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needles - yes that one. I didn't know that man...nor why it vanished forever. The site was actually okay and the userbase mostly real/credible a rare occurrence in the days of the now.

he should have gifted that domain over....I remember his name- he was one of you englanders - met many a fine English soul from there ;)....why he was a pussy escapes me....talking of which are you about owner?

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 7:48:51 AM

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When I came here, the main page opened in less than 10 seconds. I right clicked and opened 4 sub forums in new tabs then bounced the main browser window over to CollarSpace, which opened in about 8 seconds. I checked mail and came back to other 4 sub forums... ALL of which failed. 2 timed out with browser notices and the other 2 had server error codes.

I do not have enough experience to diagnose from a clue like "The actual main page loads quickly every time" but the sub forums lag or time out. But that seems like a distinctive symptom. I wonder if that is common behavior for all of us? Should be a telling clue if it is.

Yep, that's my point RS, we all seem to be saying the same thing, therefore creating a common theme enough for someone to look at the coding/servers to spot where the issue is.

I've suffered with lags and time outs on and off since joining, and I guess you can expect if of any site, for whatever reason. However, these particular set of issues with the blank screens when trying to get in to the sub forums have only been occurring in such quantity like this since that stupid pop in advert was put in the code.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 7:55:01 AM

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And a welsh one wonder what ever happened to that one

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 8:25:06 AM

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When I came here, the main page opened in less than 10 seconds. I right clicked and opened 4 sub forums in new tabs then bounced the main browser window over to CollarSpace, which opened in about 8 seconds. I checked mail and came back to other 4 sub forums... ALL of which failed. 2 timed out with browser notices and the other 2 had server error codes.

I do not have enough experience to diagnose from a clue like "The actual main page loads quickly every time" but the sub forums lag or time out. But that seems like a distinctive symptom. I wonder if that is common behavior for all of us? Should be a telling clue if it is.

Yep, that's my point RS, we all seem to be saying the same thing, therefore creating a common theme enough for someone to look at the coding/servers to spot where the issue is.

I've suffered with lags and time outs on and off since joining, and I guess you can expect if of any site, for whatever reason. However, these particular set of issues with the blank screens when trying to get in to the sub forums have only been occurring in such quantity like this since that stupid pop in advert was put in the code.

Needles

Needles, did you try the thing I suggested about that Bing shit??
I don't see that pop-in at all and (by deliberate choice) cannot access Bing at all.
Perhaps (and quite probable) the implementation of that crappy advert is causing a lot of the problems for people.
And yes, I've checked, I have that same embedded code that everyone has.
And interestingly, I don't have any of these issues that many are complaining about.
Using an Ad-Blocker isn't good enough to stop the site accessing that advert - I've already explained why.
You base your findings on 3 machines.
I have 17 here, mainly towers and some laptops, most of which are more than 10 years old.
Every machine here uses the same 'hosts' file that block certain advertiser sites and it does make a difference.

@RS: You said "When I came here, the main page opened in less than 10 seconds".
If I wait more than one, possibly two seconds if I'm downloading shitloads of torrents, I consider that s-l-o-w.
I open CS from my browser home page [bookmarked], it's there in a blink.
From the list of links on the left, I click "Message Boards" it goes from CollarSpace to CollarChat, it's there in a blink.
Admittedly, further down the threads, it usually takes maybe half a second or so, so no big deal.
The cmail, both bulk and inbox, are usually there in about half a second.
Sometimes it lags but it's rarely more than a second.

Perhaps my blocking Bing completely is the key?

The trick is to stop your device from accessing it, not just stopping the displaying of it.
ETA: I also blocked Google's analytics too.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 8:56:14 AM

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To suggest, though, that people accessing a site should have to modify their hosts file to get it with any sense of speed or consistency, is plain crap.

If I put something on a site I am responsible for that ruins my users' experience, that's on me. Not on them for not being savvy enough to get around the shitty code.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 9:02:50 AM

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 9:12:40 AM

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To suggest, though, that people accessing a site should have to modify their hosts file to get it with any sense of speed or consistency, is plain crap.

If I put something on a site I am responsible for that ruins my users' experience, that's on me. Not on them for not being savvy enough to get around the shitty code.

Oh I quite agree Nookie.
Your userbase shouldn't have to take such measures.
But if it fixes some bad shit on a site, it's a one-time thing that's worth doing IMHO.

But there are some sites such as CS who fuck things up and don't fix them.
They don't have the tech staff to do things properly any more.

As for things like Google Analytics, it's something that seems to be getting more and more popular with many sites.
Invariably, those using this 'feature' also tend to use googleads (doubleclick.net) too.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 11:19:57 AM

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To suggest, though, that people accessing a site should have to modify their hosts file to get it with any sense of speed or consistency, is plain crap.

If I put something on a site I am responsible for that ruins my users' experience, that's on me. Not on them for not being savvy enough to get around the shitty code.

Oh I quite agree Nookie.
Your userbase shouldn't have to take such measures.
But if it fixes some bad shit on a site, it's a one-time thing that's worth doing IMHO.

But there are some sites such as CS who fuck things up and don't fix them.
They don't have the tech staff to do things properly any more.

As for things like Google Analytics, it's something that seems to be getting more and more popular with many sites.
Invariably, those using this 'feature' also tend to use googleads (doubleclick.net) too.

They had the fucking idiot that put the crap in in the first place, therefore they've got the same idiot to undo it. Now I haven't done anything further to my machine because I no longer see said fuckwittery advert, I just have all the issues created since they put it in.

Now I agree with Nookie here because I may only be basing my experience on using three machines with this particular site, however ...

I'm nearly 45 years old, my comp school is known for it's technology center, and was one of the first to have a bank of computers. I did information technology at GCSE level, and have been writing code ever since. I may be no expert, far from it really, but I've built several sites of my own, and for other people, including businesses. If I were to screw up the user experience of a site by inserting some crappy advert that you can't even click on, then I think I'd be making it a priority to get that sorted out, not putting the onus on my users to prat about with their machines just so that they can keep my user numbers up, and my advertising revenue.

You see, for a site that has this part as an add on to the one that makes it's cash, you'd think they stop fucking this part up. I run adblock because this machine is old. I do as little tinkering as possible with it so that I know if anything at all has been changed from the outside, and so that if ever I have to do a factory reset I have virtually sod all else to do to it. The onus is on site owners to make my experience as easy as possible, not mine to prat about with my machine so I can navigate their trashed out codes and servers.

Three machines with this site does not include the vast amounts of different machines, and I've used some real donkeys over the years, I've used over the decades to write code, nor to surf the net, be that on land lines, cable, fiber, wifi, or Dongle. This is still the only site I have this issue with.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 1:52:10 PM

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Yep. I feel myself losing interest here.

I have no inclination to dick about with my devices (all of which have difficulty with this site but no other - be those devices Windows- or Android- based, and wherever I am in the country). That, plus a general ratcheting up of the egotism and general nastiness here over the last year or so ... perhaps time to see if my front door still works and if there are people one can talk to on the other side of it.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 2:52:01 PM

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You know, i think it is a pretty good indication that the site has major issues when the only active thread in the forum outside the politics section is the thread about how fucked the site is.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 4:44:42 PM

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When I came here, the main page opened in less than 10 seconds. I right clicked and opened 4 sub forums in new tabs then bounced the main browser window over to CollarSpace, which opened in about 8 seconds. I checked mail and came back to other 4 sub forums... ALL of which failed. 2 timed out with browser notices and the other 2 had server error codes.

I do not have enough experience to diagnose from a clue like "The actual main page loads quickly every time" but the sub forums lag or time out. But that seems like a distinctive symptom. I wonder if that is common behavior for all of us? Should be a telling clue if it is.

Yep, that's my point RS, we all seem to be saying the same thing, therefore creating a common theme enough for someone to look at the coding/servers to spot where the issue is.

I've suffered with lags and time outs on and off since joining, and I guess you can expect if of any site, for whatever reason. However, these particular set of issues with the blank screens when trying to get in to the sub forums have only been occurring in such quantity like this since that stupid pop in advert was put in the code.

Needles

You would think someone at PDG Software might be able to help. But, I think CollarChat is using an old out of date version that had core code modifications written into it back before the owner got sick. So that leaves the owner as the author of the modified code, not PDG. Anyway, yes, it should be a telling clue.

http://www.pdgsoft.com/support/

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 4:45:44 PM

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 6:14:19 PM

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You know, i think it is a pretty good indication that the site has major issues when the only active thread in the forum outside the politics section is the thread about how fucked the site is.

Or cat vomit.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 6:41:01 PM

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I looked at new users on the collarspace site and they hadn't changed in 8 hours..... either no one is signing up or they are losing them.... I recall when bondage dot com had so many tech problems but the folks running it held it together with bailing wire and duct tape. We all felt a part of the effort because they worked so hard at it. This is just crazy making and does nothing but bring on anger and resentment.... Hopefully someone will set up a dating site with a good search engine, monitored forums and friendly staff... oh, yea, bondage was just that.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 8:27:44 PM

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I know what you mean! I planted tomato seeds 24 hours ago and they haven't sprouted yet. Maybe I should sue Burpee©?

/sarcasm

Maybe eight hours isn't a long enough interval by which to judge a website's viability?

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/17/2017 9:21:40 PM

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You know, i think it is a pretty good indication that the site has major issues when the only active thread in the forum outside the politics section is the thread about how fucked the site is.

Or cat vomit.

VERY good point.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/18/2017 12:34:38 AM

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It actually still is the best website in many ways in this space, which is why it still has users despite it's problems.

Define "many".

Free. Has a profile search unlike that other free site. Has actual users rather than all no longer active profiles, really it's still better in this regard even to most vanilla dating sites I've tried...

(OK that may not be many, but those are the things I care about)

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/18/2017 1:46:14 AM

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I agree completely with your comments Needles.

I'm 60 this year and our school was the first to have 'Computer Studies' at GCSE level.
I started programming when I was 12.
And for someone of your young years, it was me who wrote the program to grade your exam results for 5 of the major exam boards in the UK

I've also done a couple of websites and I also did a lot of work in the military software field.
Remember those pretty graphs they used to show on the financial news??
That was me

It's true that users shouldn't be doing shit to make a website to work.
That's really for the site owners to make it a good experience for their users.
But here, we have some ancient and rickety software that appears to have had some in-house mods and severe fuck-ups in its lifetime.
If what RS says is true, PDG won't support it.

When this god-awful piece of shit coding for this Bing advert was released and caused havoc, I (unthinkingly) questioned it but ended up checking the HTML coding to see if I had it - and I did have it.
But then I realised I had already banned access to Bing completely and that explained why I never saw it because my machines never have access to Bing or Google's analytics crap.
I used to have to wait for Google's shit - saw it at the bottom of the browser window 'waiting for google-analytics.com' on quite a few sites I use.
So I blocked it and also googleads and double-click.net and I found my general surfing experience was a good deal smoother and faster.

Whoever put that piece of Bing shit in there, it should be easy enough to take out.
I'm sure there are plenty of us out here who could do that very quickly.
Why they haven't done it yet is a good question.

This is a good site; it could be much better.
But E seems not to be too bothered with it.
Perhaps someone like Nookie or Oside could bang some heads together and take the site over?
Certainly something needs to be done.
But in the meantime, I'll do what I have to do to make my experience better because I like the site.
If others don't want to do that, that's on them.
But my experience here seems to be far better than a lot of others and I put that down to what I do.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/18/2017 5:00:21 AM

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I looked at new users on the collarspace site and they hadn't changed in 8 hours..... either no one is signing up or they are losing them.... I recall when bondage dot com had so many tech problems but the folks running it held it together with bailing wire and duct tape. We all felt a part of the effort because they worked so hard at it. This is just crazy making and does nothing but bring on anger and resentment.... Hopefully someone will set up a dating site with a good search engine, monitored forums and friendly staff... oh, yea, bondage was just that.

Someone has.

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Perhaps someone like Nookie or Oside could bang some heads together and take the site over?

I opened up a dialog with the lawyer yesterday. We'll see if that gets us any further.

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RE: What is wrong with this website? - 1/18/2017 7:31:20 AM

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Just FYI, Collarspace is not entertaining offers from buyers.

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